Doesn't matter how dedicated ownership is it the team can't turn a profit. The Yotes are literally getting evicted from Glendale and the Panther's stadium looked 1/4 empty these playoffs after an amazing season where they won the Atlantic. Arizona is for sure moving in the near future and I can't see the Cats lasting.
- Victoro311

I wouldn't write off the Panthers yet... things HAVE to be going up after the last season.

lul wut?
- martox

Sorry. On my phone it made the page go wack like it does when people post long things and half of every other post is in the dark blue area to the right on the page. This site isnt mobile friendly.

Interesting... I did not realize the Canes were hemorrhaging money. I also hear from more than just EK rumors... that the Quebec expansion is looking very good for its chances.
- Guile

Any team that can't spend to the cap is at risk of turning in a loss. I'm personally pro moving any team that has to function on a budget. Shouldn't be hard to find 30 markets in the United States and Canada that can make enough money to spend to the cap. Hell, maybe even Cancun could be a cap ceiling market

Before we keep crucifying Lovejoy... lets at least admit, that Maatta is pulling down that pair this series
- Guile

Maatta had 6 blocked shots last game and is always in the right position. Physically he has some limitations right now but I am infinitely less hard on him as some people are. He's going to get better every year and he already has a cerebrally superior game to a lot of players.

My point is our hand is forced after next year anyway. Unless the cap jumps $10 million. We won't be able to pay 2 goalies a combined $10 million or so (assuming murray bridge is around $4).
- sditulli

Tough decisions will still need to be made. But this could make it easier to make the decisions. Wont force other teams to put a goalie on the block also making it hard to trade flower. Less completion. Its deeper than just the pens situation.

I heard they dropped teh 25% cap hit rule. Also we really need to clear cap after next year and both of their goalies would still have term left. So Dallas looks like a bad fit to me unless they are willing to retain on their goalies to get them down to a price that we could move them to another team. Dallas would be a really good fit if they hadn't locked in so much unmovable salary to the position already.
- sditulli

Both are signed for 2 more years and a buyout after the expansion draft is a real possibility. I like the 2 assets I have included enough that it would be worth it.

Doesn't matter how dedicated ownership is it the team can't turn a profit. The Yotes are literally getting evicted from Glendale and the Panther's stadium looked 1/4 empty these playoffs after an amazing season where they won the Atlantic. Arizona is for sure moving in the near future and I can't see the Cats lasting.
- Victoro311

By dedicated I mean they are willing to lose money to stay where they are. How long that dedication will last is a different conversation. If I were the Yotes the team would already be in Vegas. But rich people do weird things.

Love the pens... but your announcers are the biggest homers in the game...


Pittsburgh needs this win needless to say. Geno needs to show up... need a fast start and a much better performance all around. LETS GO PENS
- Deadmau55

No the biggest homers in the game award still goes to Boston.

Any team that can't spend to the cap is at risk of turning in a loss. I'm personally pro moving any team that has to function on a budget. Shouldn't be hard to find 30 markets in the United States and Canada that can make enough money to spend to the cap. Hell, maybe even Cancun could be a cap ceiling market
- Victoro311

Not needed. Toronto is big enough for 2 teams. But the Leafs and Sabers wouldnt allow it.

Go shorks go!


- rangerdanger94

They got sweet moves, yo.

They got sweet moves, yo.
- thickman1178

Far better than Left Shark

Any team that can't spend to the cap is at risk of turning in a loss. I'm personally pro moving any team that has to function on a budget. Shouldn't be hard to find 30 markets in the United States and Canada that can make enough money to spend to the cap. Hell, maybe even Cancun could be a cap ceiling market
- Victoro311

There will always be budget teams. If every team could spend to the current cap then the cap would just be higher.

There will always be budget teams. If every team could spend to the current cap then the cap would just be higher.
- sditulli

I always thought the cap was a function tied to league profits?

Doesn't matter how dedicated ownership is it the team can't turn a profit. The Yotes are literally getting evicted from Glendale and the Panther's stadium looked 1/4 empty these playoffs after an amazing season where they won the Atlantic. Arizona is for sure moving in the near future and I can't see the Cats lasting.
- Victoro311

I read an article a while back about FLA. They apparently have a horrible lease in their arena and there is not much they can do about it. I think expansion is dumb and they should just move teams to better markets.

SEA, VEGAS, QUE>CAR, FLA, PHX.....Peg was a dumb move.

I read an article a while back about FLA. They apparently have a horrible lease in their arena and there is not much they can do about it. I think expansion is dumb and they should just move teams to better markets.

SEA, VEGAS, QUE>CAR, FLA, PHX.....Peg was a dumb move.
- sammy87

Heard Peg fans are very loyal. They may never turn a huge profit, but I don't think they'll ever have issues filling out a stadium. Same thing with QC.

What I learned?

Loved that Pens 4th line from the start last game. Deboer matched the Thorton line against them every stoppage last game in the 1st period and they were dominated. He switched from that to start the 2nd period.

That Kunackle kid can move. Saw that rocket Hagelin get caught by Burns in this series and have seen Kunackle skate away from Burns numerous times. Big guy can really move.

Jones is a rebound machine and is like a scared cat in a dog pen when he has to handle the puck. Simply get pucks to his feet and he'll create a Pens chance often enough.

If Murray were in a Caps uniform I might not notice it wasn't Holtby. Kid is a clone of Holtby in both style and demeanor. Kid is beautifully balanced and square.

Watching this series reminds me of the Hawks-Blues. Yea it was close and went 7 but as a Hawks fan you could see the play was slanted and the Hawks needed breaks and luck for a win. Sharks look the same way.

Lovejoy had 79% defensive zone starts, Maatta had 62%. When you start that many in your Dzone your corsi will suck. Maatta is a bit heavy footed but I like most everything I've seen from Lovejoy these playoffs. He gets the puck and moves it, the style needed in the push, push, push run and gun style Sullivan has implemented.

Pens a +110 and Sharks a -130 tonight.
- Mr Ricochet

I have to admit and I don't think I was truly alone here, but many thought Kuhnackl was not going to amount to much, if he played in the NHL. I basically gave up on him. He has changed my tune quite a bit. He isn't going to get you 15 goals or put up 40 points, but he has a game that does impress in certain facets. He certainly has made out fourth line a rough line to play against.

If we don't give up a garbage goal tonight, I like our chances. We gave up two in game three. Murray usually responds well after giving up gift goals. Hope the trend continues.

Nice post. Come visit more often.

Not needed. Toronto is big enough for 2 teams. But the Leafs and Sabers wouldnt allow it.
- Zac_O

Maybe the NHL should worry about the only Toronto team getting to a competitive level before adding another. I don't see another happening in Toronto for the reasons you mentioned.

Maybe the NHL should worry about the only Toronto team getting to a competitive level before adding another. I don't see another happening in Toronto for the reasons you mentioned.
- Oneonta Penguin

The league would want a profitable team over a winning team any day of the week.

I have to admit and I don't think I was truly alone here, but many thought Kuhnackl was not going to amount to much, if he played in the NHL. I basically gave up on him. He has changed my tune quite a bit. He isn't going to get you 15 goals or put up 40 points, but he has a game that does impress in certain facets. He certainly has made out fourth line a rough line to play against.

If we don't give up a garbage goal tonight, I like our chances. We gave up two in game three. Murray usually responds well after giving up gift goals. Hope the trend continues.

Nice post. Come visit more often.
- Oneonta Penguin

Not many people liked Kuhnhackl at first. Not many at all. The only guy I can really remember liking him was Hardnosed and maybe Rev, but I think Rev just liked him because he wasn't Plotnikov. Kuhnhackl adds a unique element to this team that none of our other guys really have, same way Cole does. I think that's why this team is so successful. We're not a one trick pony. Most of our guys are speedsters, but we have enough variety throughout the lineup that we can do a little of everything. As I've said several times, team identity is extremely important, but not everyone on the team needs to be in the mold of said identity. They just need to be able to compliment them if they're a bit different. And guys like Kuhnhackl, Hornqvist, Cole, and to a lesser extent Fehr have been very good compliments.

The league would want a profitable team over a winning team any day of the week.
- thickman1178

The league's favorite team is probably Toronto. They haven't won anything in ages. The NHL is a business, which is why I don't understand why there are so many teams in garbage markets.

Before we keep crucifying Lovejoy... lets at least admit, that Maatta is pulling down that pair this series
- Guile

I think this is pretty obvious. Maatta is struggling BAD.

Ferraro talks a bit on Malkin and Murray too. Makes a good point he's lining up against Tierney. Agree or not a fun listen. http://www.tsn.ca/radio/t...ct-in-the-series-1.502529

Heard Peg fans are very loyal. They may never turn a huge profit, but I don't think they'll ever have issues filling out a stadium. Same thing with QC.
- Victoro311

All Canadian fans are loyal, but they're not making any new fans in Peg. The market is saturated. Ticket sales are a drop in the bucket for NHL revenue. Teams like Peg and EDM even TOR struggle to get UFA's and players to waive a NTC.

Not many people liked Kuhnhackl at first. Not many at all. The only guy I can really remember liking him was Hardnosed and maybe Rev, but I think Rev just liked him because he wasn't Plotnikov. Kuhnhackl adds a unique element to this team that none of our other guys really have, same way Cole does. I think that's why this team is so successful. We're not a one trick pony. Most of our guys are speedsters, but we have enough variety throughout the lineup that we can do a little of everything. As I've said several times, team identity is extremely important, but not everyone on the team needs to be in the mold of said identity. They just need to be able to compliment them if they're a bit different. And guys like Kuhnhackl, Hornqvist, Cole, and to a lesser extent Fehr have been very good compliments.
- Victoro311

He is unique. He is big; has deceptive speed it looks like; battles well and looks like he does have good puck possession skills and is a quality penalty killer. Rev probably appreciated him more because he has season tickets in Wilkes Barre and has seen what he could do. I have to admit, there are guys that I look at their stats and decide. There were a bunch here years ago that had a fetish with Setoguchi. They wanted him. Boy, put him with Sid or Geno and watch him go. I laughed and said he sucked. He wasn't good any year once leaving Joe T's line in SJ. Then there are guys like Fehr and Kuhnackl that I see what they bring to the table. It might not translate to high goal or point totals, but they do enough good to help you put the W in the column.

The league's favorite team is probably Toronto. They haven't won anything in ages. The NHL is a business, which is why I don't understand why there are so many teams in garbage markets.
- Victoro311

They are craving for Toronto to turn that mess around.