Pretty much, I bet including the pronger contract was how he was able to move out grossman.

This is also the reason I really dont think its a big deal if the wings get stuck with pavel datsyuks contract. They shouldn't have an issue moving the contract.
- flyers4487

those are two totally different scenarios

I have a Mazda now. Not buying this brand again.

The cars themselves look great, I like how sporty they seem and its very true that a lot of toyota/honda is quite boring.

I just have heard too many horror stories, and know mine well enough. I'm only buying Honda, Toyota or VW. If only Pontiac was still around.

New Mazda's fall apart unless they are in a gorgeous climate.
- flyer_nutter

there are horror stories about every car. I understand because its the same reason I dont want to buy a Honda. The paint started coming off of a 7 year old car and they felt that was completely normal and would not pay to fix it

there are horror stories about every car. I understand because its the same reason I dont want to buy a Honda. The paint started coming off of a 7 year old car and they felt that was completely normal and would not pay to fix it
- YuenglingJagr

For me I like to think what I spend my money on is primarily a good engine. Its where I focus.

Not sure what to think of the CVT tranny.

For me I like to think what I spend my money on is primarily a good engine. Its where I focus.

Not sure what to think of the CVT tranny.
- flyer_nutter

It's becoming the more common transmission type and I think they've grown to be more reliable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6aYl7AniYI

@2:20
- Marc D

lol

those are two totally different scenarios
- YuenglingJagr

In terms of the cap, they are pretty much the same.

In terms of the cap, they are pretty much the same.
- flyers4487

a 35+ contract retiring is not the same as someone on LTIR

a 35+ contract retiring is not the same as someone on LTIR
- YuenglingJagr

They are both NHL players though

For me I like to think what I spend my money on is primarily a good engine. Its where I focus.

Not sure what to think of the CVT tranny.
- flyer_nutter

CVT is the reason I wouldnt buy a forester. The engine in the rav4 is terrible. Funny cause I found the cx5 engine to be fantastic, bit underpowered in highway passing

They are both NHL players though
- Streit2ThePoint

I CANNOT wait for the day when you are wrong...im scrambling eggs as we speak so they are ready for your face

I CANNOT wait for the day when you are wrong...im scrambling eggs as we speak so they are ready for your face
- YuenglingJagr

Eggs are typically enjoyed orally.

CVT is the reason I wouldnt buy a forester. The engine in the rav4 is terrible. Funny cause I found the cx5 engine to be fantastic, bit underpowered in highway passing
- YuenglingJagr

Never did the CX5 I have no idea. I did the new Mazda 3 and found it horrific. My '06 had more pep to it.

So many choices. *pulls out pubes and runs away screaming *

Eggs are typically enjoyed orally.
- Streit2ThePoint

I like mine unfertilized.

a 35+ contract retiring is not the same as someone on LTIR
- YuenglingJagr

If he doesn't play here its the exact same thing to a team looking to reach the cap floor

Never did the CX5 I have no idea. I did the new Mazda 3 and found it horrific. My '06 had more pep to it.

So many choices. *pulls out pubes and runs away screaming *
- flyer_nutter

im looking for my wife and it is overwhelming...my favorite methods of buying a car are usually fall irrationally in love with a car regardless of the consequences or find a deal too good to pass up. this will be the first time I buy a car new, and she's currently falling irrationally in love with just the idea of a new car

I drive a clown car. Don't ask what happened to the clowns.

For me, the Pronger trade wasn't surprising at all. It was a no brainer. Just about anyone who posts on this board could've pulled it off.
- Scoob

The fact that they got someone to take him and included an actual NHL player and a 3rd for Grossmann without knees was surprising.

If he doesn't play here its the exact same thing to a team looking to reach the cap floor
- flyers4487

That would be news to me. I am understanding that he has a cap hit that is higher than his contract, but it cannot be put on LTIR and there is a big difference between a team paying a guy 550k and 5.5 million.

im looking for my wife and it is overwhelming...my favorite methods of buying a car are usually fall irrationally in love with a car regardless of the consequences or find a deal too good to pass up. this will be the first time I buy a car new, and she's currently falling irrationally in love with just the idea of a new car
- YuenglingJagr

Exactly how and why I bought my motorcycle.

The fact that they got someone to take him and included an actual NHL player and a 3rd for Grossmann without knees was surprising.
- jmatchett383

Gagner coming back was a salary dump for arizona as well

Gagner coming back was a salary dump for arizona as well
- YuenglingJagr

I wouldnt be against keeping him.

As of now the only boys we have that are any threat in a shootout are Giroux and maybe Gagner.

Travis Konecny, you are our only hope!

I wouldnt be against keeping him.

As of now the only boys we have that are any threat in a shootout are Giroux and maybe Gagner.

Travis Konecny, you are our only hope!
- flyer_nutter

and future overpaid flyer frans nielsen

I drive a clown car. Don't ask what happened to the clowns.
- Mononoke

Damn that was going to be my first question

and future overpaid flyer frans nielsen
- YuenglingJagr

I've been thinking about 3C.

With Couturier locked in as a 2nd line center, and getting a lot of ice time. I somewhat want a 3C with more offensive potential. Again, Konecny?

That would be news to me. I am understanding that he has a cap hit that is higher than his contract, but it cannot be put on LTIR and there is a big difference between a team paying a guy 550k and 5.5 million.
- YuenglingJagr

I was under the impression if a player fails to report (like in the Tim Thomas to NYI deal) the team suspends him and he still counts against the cap.