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mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Jun 7 @ 10:21 AM ET
Id rather keep Nash and ship out/buy out one of Girardi or Staal tbh

But something has to happen with the cap staying flat or even going down.

- mrn22


Not to mention the expansion shyt. cant have both of those d men protected
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 7 @ 10:23 AM ET
Not to mention the expansion shyt. cant have both of those d men protected
- mrn22

Daly said today that NMCs that expire or change after the 2016-17 season will not have to be protected, contrary to Brooks' statement that they would a few days ago.

So we won't have to protect Girardi.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 7 @ 10:24 AM ET
Id rather keep Nash and ship out/buy out one of Girardi or Staal tbh

But something has to happen with the cap staying flat or even going down.

- mrn22


Yup I agree. Too much money tied up right now. Maybe though they just ride it out this year, Nash will look a lot more attractive if he has a good year this year and only has 1 year left on his contract.

Also could be trade deadline move if the Rangers are playing like crap next year.
TwoPumpChump91
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 03.04.2016

Jun 7 @ 10:24 AM ET
We will see. Dude had a busted knee cap and a concussion. I had a deep bruise on my kneecap once and that poop was painful as hell just walking. I think if they are both healthy you will be surprised.

Part of me also wants to see Nash traded and tear it up somewhere else because all the crap he got from this miserable fan base.

- mdw7413


If a team were willing to take Nash and the Rangers didn't have to eat any salary, what would the return you'd expect? Would NYR do it for 2 second round picks, knowing that their prospect system is weak and they are clearing nearly 8 million without taking any back ?
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 7 @ 10:26 AM ET
If a team were willing to take Nash and the Rangers didn't have to eat any salary, what would the return you'd expect? Would NYR do it for 2 second round picks, knowing that their prospect system is weak and they are clearing nearly 8 million without taking any back ?
- TwoPumpChump91


I think it would be a pretty bad return if no salary is retained. Its why I would rather hold onto Nash till at the least the deadline next year
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 7 @ 10:27 AM ET
Yup I agree. Too much money tied up right now. Maybe though they just ride it out this year, Nash will look a lot more attractive if he has a good year this year and only has 1 year left on his contract.
- mdw7413

God you're so (frank)ing soft I can't (frank)ing stand it

(frank) this team blow it up and trade the core. Rangers can't afford to "wait it out one year" because pansies like you are emotionally attached and physically attracted to men with chiseled chins and blue eyes.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 7 @ 10:29 AM ET
So whats the percentages Kreider goes to arbitration? He can do that, correct?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 7 @ 10:30 AM ET
So whats the percentages Kreider goes to arbitration? He can do that, correct?
- mdw7413


yep, they haven't actually gone through with an arbitration in a while

seems like everytime they have one scheduled in recent memory that get to that morning and sign a deal right before hearing
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 7 @ 10:32 AM ET
God you're so (frank)ing soft I can't (frank)ing stand it

(frank) this team blow it up and trade the core. Rangers can't afford to "wait it out one year" because pansies like you are emotionally attached and physically attracted to men with chiseled chins and blue eyes.

- rangerdanger94



You have to be the dumbest (frank)ing dude on HB. IQ lower than a (frank)ing retarded slug. You really should take your annoying dumb ass and just stay on the Pens blog.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 7 @ 10:33 AM ET
retarded slug

mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 7 @ 10:33 AM ET
yep, they haven't actually gone through with an arbitration in a while

seems like everytime they have one scheduled in recent memory that get to that morning and sign a deal right before hearing

- jimbro83



Zherdev the last one?

Wonder if Kreider is going to go that route after what Czikas got.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 7 @ 10:34 AM ET
retarded slug


- jimbro83

jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 7 @ 10:35 AM ET
Zherdev the last one?

Wonder if Kreider is going to go that route after what Czikas got.

- mdw7413


I think Avery went after Zherdev, I forget though
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 7 @ 10:39 AM ET
I think Avery went after Zherdev, I forget though
- jimbro83

Didn't Avery get a 1 year deal and then left for Dallas after the Rangers signed Redden? Pretty sure, because Avery made some comments of the Rangers value an outsider over him. Then the Rangers traded for Zherdev that off season correct? He went to Arbitration and the Rangers walked away. Then he left for the KHL?

MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Jun 7 @ 10:40 AM ET
I think Avery went after Zherdev, I forget though
- jimbro83



Dubinsky was close to arbitration several times, right?
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Jun 7 @ 10:41 AM ET
Didn't Avery get a 1 year deal and then left for Dallas after the Rangers signed Redden? Pretty sure, because Avery made some comments of the Rangers value an outsider over him. Then the Rangers traded for Zherdev that off season correct?


- tomburton99


I think he was referring to Drury and Gomez over Redden.

Man, the Rangers really blew whatever excess cap space they once had after the '07 season.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 7 @ 10:42 AM ET
I think he was referring to Drury and Gomez over Redden.

Man, the Rangers really blew whatever excess cap space they once had after the '07 season.

- MidnightMarauder

He was on team with Gomez and Drruy though. He left year after. He and Jagr. That's how the Rangers had money to sign Redden?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 7 @ 10:43 AM ET
Didn't Avery get a 1 year deal and then left for Dallas after the Rangers signed Redden? Pretty sure, because Avery made some comments of the Rangers value an outsider over him. Then the Rangers traded for Zherdev that off season correct? He went to Arbitration and the Rangers walked away. Then he left for the KHL?


- tomburton99


they had an opportunity to match what Dallas gave Avery, I really don't remember details with that anymore

http://nypost.com/2008/07...ts-keep-failing-to-score/
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 7 @ 10:43 AM ET
Dubinsky was close to arbitration several times, right?
- MidnightMarauder


yeah he was, so was Cally, so was Stepan
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Jun 7 @ 10:46 AM ET
yeah he was, so was Cally, so was Stepan
- jimbro83


Hoping Gorton takes care of the team's RFAs quickly, this time around.

Wouldn't be a good thing if any of them, especially Kreider, goes to arbitration.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 7 @ 10:48 AM ET
Hoping Gorton takes care of the team's RFAs quickly, this time around.

Wouldn't be a good thing if any of them, especially Kreider, goes to arbitration.

- MidnightMarauder


I said it at the time, and I'll say it now

the Rangers should have treated McDonagh and Stepan exactly the same in the summer of 2013

if they did, they'd both have 4.7 mil cap hits right now
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 7 @ 10:48 AM ET
Hoping Gorton takes care of the team's RFAs quickly, this time around.

Wouldn't be a good thing if any of them, especially Kreider, goes to arbitration.

- MidnightMarauder


I think Hayes and Miller get done quick. Have a feeling about Kreider though, thats its going to be drawn out.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Jun 7 @ 10:49 AM ET
He was on team with Gomez and Drruy though. He left year after. He and Jagr. That's how the Rangers had money to sign Redden?
- tomburton99



The Rangers had money for Avery but Sather went in a different direction because he thought he can get an Avery type, Voros, for half the price.

The Summer of 08 was a horrendous one for the Rangers and the Avery dilemma was part of it.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Jun 7 @ 10:50 AM ET
I said it at the time, and I'll say it now

the Rangers should have treated McDonagh and Stepan exactly the same in the summer of 2013

if they did, they'd both have 4.7 mil cap hits right now

- jimbro83



Sather man, for every good move he made two bad ones.

MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Jun 7 @ 10:52 AM ET
I think Hayes and Miller get done quick. Have a feeling about Kreider though, thats its going to be drawn out.
- mdw7413



Well that atrocious Cizikas deal ruined leverage for every GM dealing with an RFA forward this summer.
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