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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 5 @ 6:53 PM ET
2Real is making a Pens Cup win bearable. I'd actually like to thank him for that.
- hereticpride


This is what cheering for the Pens gets you...

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 5 @ 8:08 PM ET
Never said I was cheering for the Pens in the slightest. Just a small silver lining where there otherwise wouldn't be one.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 5 @ 9:10 PM ET
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/boards/thread.php?thread_id=135829&page=6

Please refer to the time stamp, sir.

Judge rules in my favor, I will now take 75% of your future earnings and live in the lap of luxury. Thank you for your thivery

- KINGKENZO

SEVENTY FIVE?!

Besides. I put the trademark on it....not my fault you were lazy
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 5 @ 9:15 PM ET
Can someone acknowledge my existence?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 5 @ 9:21 PM ET
He's the guy with 13 playoff goals playing in the Stanley Cup Finals. How are you missing him?

I hope he scores 2 or 3 Monday.

- wolfhounds

Pointless in the Cup Finals. Small when it matters most.

Pathetic.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 5 @ 9:21 PM ET
Is this accurate?
http://www.habseyesonthep...x-galchenyuk-brandon-saad

So if someone offers Gudas 3/9.3 and the Flyers don't match they only get a 2nd round pick.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 5 @ 9:25 PM ET
Is this accurate?
http://www.habseyesonthep...x-galchenyuk-brandon-saad

So if someone offers Gudas 3/9.3 and the Flyers don't match they only get a 2nd round pick.

- jstross


If they qualify him then I believe that'd be correct.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 5 @ 9:25 PM ET
Can someone acknowledge my existence?
- Mononoke


no
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 5 @ 9:26 PM ET
If they qualify him then I believe that'd be correct.
- ob18


That changed a lot from the older schedules. I guess inflation caused the price to go down.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 5 @ 9:27 PM ET
no
- ob18

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 5 @ 9:28 PM ET
That changed a lot from the older schedules. I guess inflation caused the price to go down.
- jstross


I like him but anything over $2 to maybe $2.5 on a 2 or 3 yr deal is too much IMHO
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jun 5 @ 9:29 PM ET
I don't know if anyone else feels way but my expectation of the draft pretty much goes hand in hand of what I expect to see make the team next season, whether it be right out of camp or as the season gets older. Every year I expect to dradt a potential star in the first round but during the 2016-17 season, there is potential to take control of Morin, Provorov and Sanheim as controlled Flyers property should Provorov make the team out of camp. I am hoping others take huge steps aside frombtge obvious Samuel Morin who could become a first call up if need be.

Who do you guys expect to see next season outside of Morin and Provorov?
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 5 @ 9:30 PM ET
I like him but anything over $2 to maybe $2.5 on a 2 or 3 yr deal is too much IMHO
- ob18


Yeah when I first read 3 for 3 I was like wow, is that really $9 million. I like Gudas, but not at $ per year. If they go that high it has to be 2 years, not 3. Too much for too long. I'd pay the premium for a shorter term. Young guys should be more established in a couple years so the Flyers will know what they have.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 5 @ 9:40 PM ET
I would prefer 2.25-2.5, but it's not like an additional .5 mil will hamper anything for the next 3 years. He's a solid top 4 RHD who makes opposing forwards feel mighty uncomfortable. A prospect still has to prove he is better than Gudas...and he was pretty damn good this year. If they need to trade him, there will undoubtedly be a market if he plays at around the level he did. Then he is a cheap, easily tradeable asset who can be unloaded for a 2nd or something. Really there isn't much that can go wrong here.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 5 @ 10:24 PM ET
Pointless in the Cup Finals. Small when it matters most.

Pathetic.

- Giroux_Is_God


MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 5 @ 10:55 PM ET
2Real is making a Pens Cup win bearable. I'd actually like to thank him for that.
- hereticpride



Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 6 @ 12:07 AM ET
http://www.csnphilly.com/...spects-flyers-interviewed
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 6 @ 12:20 AM ET
http://www.csnphilly.com/philadelphia-flyers/tage-thompson-luke-kunin-jake-bean-among-nhl-prospects-flyers-interviewed
- Just5


I mean, while half of those definitely aren't for pick 18, that's a good list (maybe except for Thompson...if he was a 2nd rounder, perhaps, but he's probably a 1st and not interested at 18). I'm a very very big Fox fan too. But not sure it makes sense...he might be a 4 year guy, and with the logjam we have at D, he could bolt.

I like the names Rubtsov, Kunin, Abramov, and Bean at 18 though. I know they didn't interview Bellows, but add him and that's my realistic wish list. Preferably the forwards.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 6 @ 12:24 AM ET
Have an idea...

MDZ for bozak. There's our 3rd line center.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 6 @ 12:35 AM ET
Have an idea...

MDZ for bozak. There's our 3rd line center.

- Just5


I will save someone else the trouble....

Bozak is a mediocre player lifted by top line usage with superstars. He's forward AMac. There is a reason every Leafs fan is trying to hawk him on someone else. MDZ is a legit top 4 guy who is 26.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 6 @ 12:47 AM ET
I will save someone else the trouble....

Bozak is a mediocre player lifted by top line usage with superstars. He's forward AMac. There is a reason every Leafs fan is trying to hawk him on someone else. MDZ is a legit top 4 guy who is 26.

- Mononoke



Could he be effective in a 3rd line scoring role? Regardless of the trade
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 6 @ 12:52 AM ET
Could he be effective in a 3rd line scoring role? Regardless of the trade
- Just5


If you inflate the poop out of his usage, good linemates, give him the cushiest minutes, and tons of PP time. Maybe. But even then he isn't anything special. Really he is the definition of a guy who can put up points but is mediocre doing it. I would take Cousins instead 10/10.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 6 @ 1:05 AM ET
I mean, while half of those definitely aren't for pick 18, that's a good list (maybe except for Thompson...if he was a 2nd rounder, perhaps, but he's probably a 1st and not interested at 18). I'm a very very big Fox fan too. But not sure it makes sense...he might be a 4 year guy, and with the logjam we have at D, he could bolt.

I like the names Rubtsov, Kunin, Abramov, and Bean at 18 though. I know they didn't interview Bellows, but add him and that's my realistic wish list. Preferably the forwards.

- Mononoke

I wonder if they have their eye on drafting Bean and then move Morin or Sanhiem for forward help? More likely Morin I'd suppose as Bean was Sanhiem's D partner.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 6 @ 1:22 AM ET
I wonder if they have their eye on drafting Bean and then move Morin or Sanhiem for forward help? More likely Morin I'd suppose as Bean was Sanhiem's D partner.
- hereticpride


If Bean slips past a team like Detroit -- if he gets to 18 I'm saying -- I will be surprised. If they feel he is definitely the clear cut top guy there, then do it.

Swing Morin+ for the Habs' 9th or Avs' 10th. Draft Keller. Biblical level profit. (I would do this so fast. So fast).
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 6 @ 1:25 AM ET
I wonder if they have their eye on drafting Bean and then move Morin or Sanhiem for forward help? More likely Morin I'd suppose as Bean was Sanhiem's D partner.
- hereticpride


Not sure they assemble their draft list with the intention of making it domino #1. The scouts just want the best player they can get.

How that affects what Hextall ends up doing with those assets once they've been drafted... is kind of outside the scope of the draft conversation, I'd think.
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