I feel like driving to Pembroke right now..

North Bay is lacking a decent pita place...
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I still can't believe that. Meanwhile in TO I can't even guess how many there are. Hundreds.

I feel like opening a real good shawarma shop in North Bay is a gold mine.

Agreed. Same deal as pronger with az.


This deal doesn't help the leafs. Better off with Horton as they can ltir him when they need to.
- burn

Yep, I was just saying he is movable, just to us.

I see something like:

Vermette and michalek to Detroit for datsyuk and a couple draft picks.

Datsyuk retires a yote. His caphit counts, doesn’t cost the yotes a dime.
- Tumbleweed

the more I look at it, its a valuable asset to some teams. Saves you 7m to make the floor. Cash in hand

I think so, I think +36 contract count against the cap no matter what.

That's why drw are going to have issues with it, because doesn't matter what happens he's counting against their cap.
- burn

It if you sign the contract when you're 35+, it count toward the cap no matter what.

its a total cap hit play, also youd sell a few jerseys too
- poohcrumbs

I want a datsyuk coyotes jersey.


Why do you have an Arizona datsyuk jersey? He wasn't a coyote?

Sure he was. never played there but still.



You could collect all the jerseys of guys that weren't really apart of the team.

Horton - leafs
Pronger - coyotes
Savard - panthers

if he dosnt report to training camp its a breach of contract

TSN’s Frank Seravalli, the issue might not be that complicated:

If Datsyuk does not report for training camp, the Red Wings (or any team which acquires him) can suspend him for breach of contract, two NHL cap managers confirmed on Friday. That team would then not be responsible for paying him any of the $5.5 million due to him in actual cash.

No team, including the Red Wings, would owe him a dollar. Datsyuk’s $7.5 million salary-cap hit, a paper penalty in theory, could prove valuable to a small-market team struggling to hit the cap floor or spending minimum.
- poohcrumbs

Pretty sure league would step in and call bullshiit on such a move like they did with NJ and Kovalchuk - all trades have to be approved and that would not pass the smell test.

if he dosnt report to training camp its a breach of contract

TSN’s Frank Seravalli, the issue might not be that complicated:

If Datsyuk does not report for training camp, the Red Wings (or any team which acquires him) can suspend him for breach of contract, two NHL cap managers confirmed on Friday. That team would then not be responsible for paying him any of the $5.5 million due to him in actual cash.

No team, including the Red Wings, would owe him a dollar. Datsyuk’s $7.5 million salary-cap hit, a paper penalty in theory, could prove valuable to a small-market team struggling to hit the cap floor or spending minimum.
- poohcrumbs

They can only suspend him if he doesn't retire. Plus you have to pay the recapture cost which is 3 million. Cheaper than the $7.5 that's happen if he retires.

Someone said just trade him for Pronger.

the more I look at it, its a valuable asset to some teams. Saves you 7m to make the floor. Cash in hand
- poohcrumbs

Then the team sucks though, I guess that's good for TO....unless they have dreams of 1st pick again next year.

Pretty sure league would step in and call bullshiit on such a move like they did with NJ and Kovalchuk - all trades have to be approved and that would not pass the smell test.
- winsix

They approved the Pronger to Yotes and Savard trade.

Yep, I was just saying he is movable, just to us.
- poohcrumbs

Yes it's possible.

Yes it's possible.
- burn

* not to us I meant

Pretty sure league would step in and call bullshiit on such a move like they did with NJ and Kovalchuk - all trades have to be approved and that would not pass the smell test.
- winsix

Exact same thing has gone down before with savard and pronger

I still can't believe that. Meanwhile in TO I can't even guess how many there are. Hundreds.

I feel like opening a real good shawarma shop in North Bay is a gold mine.
- Zezel

get yourself an Ali baba franchise.

I seriously did my first long bike ride for that reason...20 km and I never really rode bikes up to that point all lol...but failure was not an option
- Zezel

That's awesome.


(I was talking more like 2 or 3kim so good job!!!)

They can only suspend him if he doesn't retire. Plus you have to pay the recapture cost which is 3 million. Cheaper than the $7.5 that's happen if he retires.

Someone said just trade him for Pronger.
- Venom.

Thats what is being discussed, he dosnt report he gets suspended.


See Radulov

Exact same thing has gone down before with savard and pronger
- burn

Alex Radulov is a perfect example. Suspended, left for KHL

Agreed. Same deal as pronger with az.


This deal doesn't help the leafs. Better off with Horton as they can ltir him when they need to.
- burn

but can you imaging Datsyuk in a Leaf centennial jersey.

Thats what is being discussed, he dosnt report he gets suspended.


See Radulov
- poohcrumbs

I was just pointing out that the best option is the trade for Pronger as he can ruin it by saying two words and they'll still have a 3 million cap hit.

They approved the Pronger to Yotes and Savard trade.
- Venom.

Different circumstance here. We have a non injured player over 35 signed signed a long term deal that counts against the cap. Trading the cap hit would likely be interpreted as an attempt to circumvent the salary cap by Both teams.

I was just pointing out that the best option is the trade for Pronger as he can ruin it by saying two words and they'll still have a 3 million cap hit.
- Venom.

No one was saying for the Leafs to trade for anyone. Someone said the Wings were (frank)ed with Datsuyks contract. Not true.


How did Pronger get involved

Different circumstance here. We have a non injured player over 35 signed signed a long term deal that counts against the cap. Trading the cap hit would likely be interpreted as an attempt to circumvent the salary cap by Both teams.
- winsix

trade before he dosnt report, - Training camp. he gets suspended like Radulov

No one was saying for the Leafs to trade for anyone. Someone said the Wings were (frank)ed with Datsuyks contract. Not true.


How did Pronger get involved
- poohcrumbs

What? Are you drunk?

I was saying trading Pavol for Pronger is the best option for them!

get yourself an Ali baba franchise.
- dmnted

I totally should, Ali Babas rules. But I need a 24 hour shawarma shack that also sells booze, in North Bay. I'm pitching it to the GF.

What? Are you drunk?

I was saying trading Pavol for Pronger is the best option for them?
- Venom.

Why would the wings want to do that, I have no idea.

are you on Molly?

Why would the wings want to do that, I have no idea.

are you on Molly?
- poohcrumbs

So they have no cap hit?

A suspended Pavol has recapture penalty like Kovulchuck.