Everything you write is 100% true.
Problem is that Burn is not talking to the conversation we were having when I said it is silly to say that if you trade Kadri while keeping Bozak, it's a failure.

There are many factors that go into that trade being a failure or not. Like, is Kadri your number 1 center (do they sign SS) or number 3C (do they play Matthews ahead). If he is your number 3C and you can trade Kadri (maybe add a piece) for someone like Larsson, well, does that make sense for the Leafs roll with Stamkos, Matthews and Bozak as your top 3C with Rielly and Larsson as your top pairing D?

The point is, unless you know what the return is for Kadri, it's silly to say trading kadri and keeping bozak is a failure.

Leafs could never get back close to to the same return for Bozak.
- Cooshie

I will say that Kadri definitely isn't on the untouchable list. He has a pretty good contract signed for several years and a good cap hit. I wouldn't be shocked if at some point he did get traded. I just don't think it's any time soon and so they can keep Bozak in the fold. I figure Kadri has a future with the Leafs, at least until he doesn't any more. He'll make a good #3C behind Stamkos and Matthews. Assuming that's how it plays out.

Everything you write is 100% true.
Problem is that Burn is not talking to the conversation we were having when I said it is silly to say that if you trade Kadri while keeping Bozak, it's a failure.

There are many factors that go into that trade being a failure or not. Like, is Kadri your number 1 center (do they sign SS) or number 3C (do they play Matthews ahead). If he is your number 3C and you can trade Kadri (maybe add a piece) for someone like Larsson, well, does that make sense for the Leafs roll with Stamkos, Matthews and Bozak as your top 3C with Rielly and Larsson as your top pairing D?

The point is, unless you know what the return is for Kadri, it's silly to say trading kadri and keeping bozak is a failure.

Leafs could never get back close to to the same return for Bozak.
- Cooshie

It's funny watching you post stuff in rely about someone mot understanding aNd then we get this. Your guilty of what you're accusing others of.....

Taking kadri out of the line up is a negative, bozak playing that role deepens that negative. The positive you get from kadri return isn't enough to counter negative.

Does Bozak suck? No.

Is he a quality 2nd line centre that can play in all scenarios? Nope.

Put him on a good team, and he's not in top two lines.

To quote The Law, he's your Ikea coffee table.

But more importantly, the Leafs have absolutely no leverage. If Stamkos is here, 29 other teams know they have to shed Bozak.

If you think you can get a 1st round pick for Bozak, you've obviously been partaking before the federal government introduces legislation.
- Atomic Wedgie

Cody Franson got a 1st round pick.
Antoine Vermette got a 1st round pick.
Teams toss around late draft picks at deadline time like it's joints being passed at a Grateful Dead concert. Or my apartment.

Was that when he had to choose one girl to take on that chef job with him?
- Phenom

Yeah, the cruise one. How about this one.

Janet(talking about buying Roper's car): Chrissy, it's the answer to our prayers.
Chrissy:That's not true. Nobody prayed.
Janet:Okay, then let's start. Please, God, make Chrissy change her mind.
Jack:Or better yet give her one

Cody Franson got a 1st round pick.
Antoine Vermette got a 1st round pick.
Teams toss around late draft picks at deadline time like it's joints being passed at a Grateful Dead concert. Or my apartment.
- Njuice

I will say that Kadri definitely isn't on the untouchable list. He has a pretty good contract signed for several years and a good cap hit. I wouldn't be shocked if at some point he did get traded. I just don't think it's any time soon and so they can keep Bozak in the fold. I figure Kadri has a future with the Leafs, at least until he doesn't any more. He'll make a good #3C behind Stamkos and Matthews. Assuming that's how it plays out.
- ErectileReptile

I agree and have said a few times, I doubt Kadri gets traded.
Still, trading Kadri for the right piece could be a good move if it presents itself.

All In The Family and Threes Company were both some of the best TV ever made, to this day.

It's funny watching you post stuff in rely about someone mot understanding aNd then we get this. Your guilty of what you're accusing others of.....

Taking kadri out of the line up is a negative, bozak playing that role deepens that negative. The positive you get from kadri return isn't enough to counter negative.
- burn

You must have been dropped on your head many times as a child!!
Again, this has nothing to do with who is better, Kadri or Bozak....this has to do with what is better for the Leafs if they get a great offer (like Larsson) for Kadri.....

Give your head a shake.

All In The Family and Threes Company were both some of the best TV ever made, to this day.
- ErectileReptile

And MASH

And MASH
- jimi james

I liked M.A.S.H. but it wasn't as good as the two mentioned previously. At least not for me. People say I Love Lucy was the best ever but again, it was good but just not great for me. All personal taste.

Bozak slept with Burn's wife.

So here is how TSN predicted our depth chart on April 30th:

http://www.tsn.ca/the-mat...eafs-depth-chart-1.395760

JVR - Kadri - Komarov
Soshnikov - Matthews - Nylander
Leipsic/Leivo - Bozak - Hyman
Michalek - Laich - Holland/Brown
Marner

Hunwick - Rielly
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Marincin - UFA
Corrado

Obviously a few things I don't agree with.

But if you add Stamkos, it obviously creates some additional problems (good problems!).

For one thing, I don't see Marner as being that low on the depth chart.

I like the idea of Matthews right away at #2.

Komarov needs to drop down the chart.

Soshnikov needs to drop down the chart.

Leipsic and Leivo could probably be left off the team for all I care.

I don't see them re-signing Holland.

All In The Family and Threes Company were both some of the best TV ever made, to this day.
- ErectileReptile

Add Married...With Children, some of the best one liners ever in a sitcom.

it was summer time in northern Michigan

All In The Family and Threes Company were both some of the best TV ever made, to this day.
- ErectileReptile

LOVED both those shows.
All in the Family was on a completely different level though - man was it racist show!!

Add Married...With Children, some of the best one liners ever in a sitcom.
- LeafMan

I loved that show too. My God I had the biggest crush on Christina Applegate. It was a bit of a reach accepting Peg as Gemma on Sons of Anarchy.

So here is how TSN predicted our depth chart on April 30th:

http://www.tsn.ca/the-mat...eafs-depth-chart-1.395760

JVR - Kadri - Komarov
Soshnikov - Matthews - Nylander
Leipsic/Leivo - Bozak - Hyman
Michalek - Laich - Holland/Brown
Marner

Hunwick - Rielly
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Marincin - UFA
Corrado

Obviously a few things I don't agree with.

But if you add Stamkos, it obviously creates some additional problems (good problems!).

For one thing, I don't see Marner as being that low on the depth chart.

I like the idea of Matthews right away at #2.

Komarov needs to drop down the chart.

Soshnikov needs to drop down the chart.

Leipsic and Leivo could probably be left off the team for all I care.

I don't see them re-signing Holland.
- Atomic Wedgie

Leipsic had dropped off the depth chart, was scratched for Marlies for games during the playoffs. It's a break or done year for Leivo with the organization, they have to give him a prolonged look or move him.

So here is how TSN predicted our depth chart on April 30th:

http://www.tsn.ca/the-mat...eafs-depth-chart-1.395760

JVR - Kadri - Komarov
Soshnikov - Matthews - Nylander
Leipsic/Leivo - Bozak - Hyman
Michalek - Laich - Holland/Brown
Marner

Hunwick - Rielly
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Marincin - UFA
Corrado

Obviously a few things I don't agree with.

But if you add Stamkos, it obviously creates some additional problems (good problems!).

For one thing, I don't see Marner as being that low on the depth chart.

I like the idea of Matthews right away at #2.

Komarov needs to drop down the chart.

Soshnikov needs to drop down the chart.

Leipsic and Leivo could probably be left off the team for all I care.

I don't see them re-signing Holland.
- Atomic Wedgie

The thing about the depth chart is that's not how the Leafs are built. We won't have a 1st, 2nd and 3rd line.

Kadri, Komarov, Hymen will likely the "first" line in my mind in that they get the tough matchups.

JVR, Matthews, Brown/Marner will be the "second" line and get less defensive zone matchups but they will put mad pucks in the net.

LOVED both those shows.
All in the Family was on a completely different level though - man was it racist show!!
- Cooshie

All In The Family is probably my favorite show ever. And you're right, you could NEVER get away with that writing today. Not even on HBO. That was one show that caused serious laugh out loud moments on every episode. Just such smart writing.

Cody Franson got a 1st round pick.
Antoine Vermette got a 1st round pick.
Teams toss around late draft picks at deadline time like it's joints being passed at a Grateful Dead concert. Or my apartment.
- Njuice

This argument is always so weak. You guys pick out one team that was incredibly stupid in the last 10 years, and hold it up as proof, like somehow it paves the way for Bozak being traded for a 1st.

Lidstrom was drafted in the third round, so I'm counting on the Leafs drafting 3 future HHOFers in the third round this year.

See what I did there?

it was summer time in northern Michigan
- zazzle

Kid Rock?

The thing about the depth chart is that's not how the Leafs are built. We won't have a 1st, 2nd and 3rd line.

Kadri, Komarov, Hymen will likely the "first" line in my mind in that they get the tough matchups.

JVR, Matthews, Brown/Marner will be the "second" line and get less defensive zone matchups but they will put mad pucks in the net.
- Njuice

Wait, wait, wait, wait......


......where is Stamkos??

Wait, wait, wait, wait......


......where is Stamkos??
- Cooshie

Chilling in his new home in Toronto calculating the distance to the practice rink and ACC. He has to figure in game time traffic etc.

This argument is always so weak. You guys pick out one team that was incredibly stupid in the last 10 years, and hold it up as proof, like somehow it paves the way for Bozak being traded for a 1st.

Lidstrom was drafted in the third round, so I'm counting on the Leafs drafting 3 future HHOFers in the third round this year.

See what I did there?
- Atomic Wedgie

Ah man, are you really challenging me to do a bunch of research and point out all the crappy players or decent rentals that garnered a 1st round pick? There are lots of them, but I'll admit, last season was quiet in that regard. I think only the Ladd rental was for a 1st round pick.

All In The Family is probably my favorite show ever. And you're right, you could NEVER get away with that writing today. Not even on HBO. That was one show that caused serious laugh out loud moments on every episode. Just such smart writing.
- ErectileReptile

Well, I did love that show....

But, I gotta say, my favorite all time comedy is Curb Your Enthusiasm.
I LOL'ed watching that show so much that I would give myself headaches.