Surprised by Keller's numbers.
- spatso

That's this seasons numbers, so his draft year. Still doing alright though.

I have no doubt Laine will be a dynamic player.

In fact, it's a real possibility he will outscore Matthews and win the Calder next year, if he plays with some high-end linemates in Winnipeg.

That said, the Leafs need an elite, complete center far more than they need an elite goal scorer. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Matthews playing with muckers and grinders his first season., Komarov and Brown or some such thing

It'll be the world championships all over again. Laine playing with talented linemates like Barkov and Jokinen, while Matthews plays with Maroon and a revolving door of scrubs

They are apples and oranges, and Leafs just happen to need the apple

Wikipedia is the worst!

"Oh I'll get wikipedia this topic and learn something...oh look a link!.....poop how is it 5am already?!"
- Aaron_85

The other day, someone referenced A Clockwork Orange, I ended up spending 3 hours reading about psychological conditioning

I have no doubt Laine will be a dynamic player.

In fact, it's a real possibility he will outscore Matthews and win the Calder next year, if he plays with some high-end linemates in Winnipeg.

That said, the Leafs need an elite, complete center far more than they need an elite goal scorer. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Matthews playing with muckers and grinders his first season., Komarov and Brown or some such thing

It'll be the world championships all over again. Laine playing with talented linemates like Barkov and Jokinen, while Matthews plays with Maroon and a revolving door of scrubs

They are apples and oranges, and Leafs just happen to need the apple
- WingmanWillie

that is pretty close to what i have been thinking

I have no doubt Laine will be a dynamic player.

In fact, it's a real possibility he will outscore Matthews and win the Calder next year, if he plays with some high-end linemates in Winnipeg.

That said, the Leafs need an elite, complete center far more than they need an elite goal scorer. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Matthews playing with muckers and grinders his first season., Komarov and Brown or some such thing

It'll be the world championships all over again. Laine playing with talented linemates like Barkov and Jokinen, while Matthews plays with Maroon and a revolving door of scrubs

They are apples and oranges, and Leafs just happen to need the apple
- WingmanWillie

you do know he'll be on team NA. With Eichel & McDavid.

you do know he'll be on team NA. With Eichel & McDavid.
- zazzle

Yes, I mean during the season and was referencing the most recent world championships

The other day, someone referenced A Clockwork Orange, I ended up spending 3 hours reading about psychological conditioning
- WingmanWillie

You need a woman, a hobby or a job.

You need a woman, a hobby or a job.
- Aaron_85

It was during work

I am married with a ton of hobbies. But I gotta pass the work day somehow

It was during work

I am married with a ton of hobbies. But I gotta pass the work day somehow
- WingmanWillie

Yeah I have too many hobbies... two nerdy ones. Recently I had a date and I had to ease into which one to tell her about first...only one though! Two might scare them haha

I have no doubt Laine will be a dynamic player.

In fact, it's a real possibility he will outscore Matthews and win the Calder next year, if he plays with some high-end linemates in Winnipeg.

That said, the Leafs need an elite, complete center far more than they need an elite goal scorer. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Matthews playing with muckers and grinders his first season., Komarov and Brown or some such thing

It'll be the world championships all over again. Laine playing with talented linemates like Barkov and Jokinen, while Matthews plays with Maroon and a revolving door of scrubs

They are apples and oranges, and Leafs just happen to need the apple
- WingmanWillie

Nylander Matthews Marner... that be the line...

assuming we get stammer, which we are...

Yeah I have too many hobbies... two nerdy ones. Recently I had a date and I had to ease into which one to tell her about first...only one though! Two might scare them haha
- Aaron_85

did you go with your stamp collection or beanie babies?

did you go with your stamp collection or beanie babies?
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Stamps. They are timeless!

Nylander Matthews Marner... that be the line...

assuming we get stammer, which we are...
- Arctic_AARDVARK

You think they will play all 3 on the same line? I have my doubts.

Maybe Matthews and Nylander (although I think Willie plays with Kadri). If Stammer is here, I see Marner on his wing

You think they will play all 3 on the same line? I have my doubts.

Maybe Matthews and Nylander (although I think Willie plays with Kadri). If Stammer is here, I see Marner on his wing
- WingmanWillie

Not a chance. That would be terrible. All 3 of those guys want/need the puck, having two on a line may not even work (i.e. a Nylander gets moved or we roll four lines).

You think they will play all 3 on the same line? I have my doubts.

Maybe Matthews and Nylander (although I think Willie plays with Kadri). If Stammer is here, I see Marner on his wing
- WingmanWillie

If SS signs here, Kadri goes to 3C....no way they start Matthews at 3C.

If SS signs here, Kadri goes to 3C....no way they start Matthews at 3C.
- Cooshie

Yeah, it'll be Stamkos, Matthews, Kadri, with Kadri getting as many tough matchups as Stamkos, Matthews facing weaker competition to start.

Yeah, it'll be Stamkos, Matthews, Kadri, with Kadri getting as many tough matchups as Stamkos, Matthews facing weaker competition to start.
- gravyface

The official "2nd" and "3rd" lines will become blurred. IMO, the line that faces weaker competition is the 3rd line.

Potato Potahto.

Regardless, I think Mitch plays with SS, Willie with Kadri on another line and Matthews with some grinders on a 3rd line.

We'll see how it really shakes out, but thats my guess

You think they will play all 3 on the same line? I have my doubts.

Maybe Matthews and Nylander (although I think Willie plays with Kadri). If Stammer is here, I see Marner on his wing
- WingmanWillie

it would be the third line..

have Komagod Kadri sosh on the second line

There's a good chance the Avs trade Tyson Barrie...

yes please!

it would be the third line..

have Komagod Kadri sosh on the second line
- Arctic_AARDVARK

JVR-Stamkos-Marner
Sosh-Kadri-Willie
Komarov-Matthews-Brown (or Lupul if he's healthy )

That's my prediction anyway

There's a good chance the Avs trade Tyson Barrie...

yes please!
- MCharisma91

Could use him on this blue line, that's for damn sure

Corrado, Leivo and COL 4th back (from the Matthias trade)

giddy up

This is actually kind of funny. I live in a small village in Eastern Ontario and for years I have taken a serious bruising for being one of the few remaining Leaf fans in a very strong Sens environment. Most people love to chirp me over the Leafs struggles. They enjoy it too much for me to ruin their fun. So, the opposite seems to happen here and I am fine with it. But, I do ask that you remember that I really enjoy the hockey side of the discussion. I have always said Leaf fans deserve much better management than they have been given. Now that they are finally getting the leadership they deserve I really do enjoy the positive vibes coming from the fan base.
- spatso

I'm sure it has nothing to do with you being a jackass.

Could use him on this blue line, that's for damn sure

Corrado, Leivo and COL 4th back (from the Matthias trade)

giddy up
- WingmanWillie

Think Percy would go the other way, as he probably has more value than FC.

but Rielly-Barrie would be sweet.

Gardiner-Zaitzev

Think Percy would go the other way, as he probably has more value than FC.

but Rielly-Barrie would be sweet.

Gardiner-Zaitzev


- MCharisma91

I was lowballing

It would be sweet if the Leafs could get him somehow. Gotta give to get though. What did Hamilton cost CGY to acquire? It would likely be around the same price

EDIT: 15, 45, 52 overall picks

We could do 30 and 31, and Percy maybe

The other day, someone referenced A Clockwork Orange, I ended up spending 3 hours reading about psychological conditioning
- WingmanWillie

It's what they shoulda done with Kessel.

Can you imagine how good that guy would be if he only cared?

Hell, he could probably be in a conversation for the Conn Smythe Trophy.