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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 3 @ 10:23 AM ET
I think it's interesting how low Schultz's ice time was against Washington. Obviously Hakstol trusted him to start every game, but over the season he didn't play huge minutes and his ice time went down in the playoffs. So it could be another Grossmann situation where they thank him for his service, and move on.

MDZ(26)-Gudas(26)
Prorovov(19)-Streit(38)
MacDonald(30)-Ghost(23)
Manning(26)

PK pairs: MDZ-Gudas, Provorov-MacDonald

- Feanor


LOL at scratching Manning
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 3 @ 10:23 AM ET
I think they consider Schultz a mainstay on the PK, and he has a much more manageable cap hit than Streit. With that in mind, I'd be pretty surprised if he wasn't here at the start of next season.
- BiggE


They will have the same cap hit if traded!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 3 @ 10:26 AM ET
I think it's interesting how low Schultz's ice time was against Washington. Obviously Hakstol trusted him to start every game, but over the season he didn't play huge minutes and his ice time went down in the playoffs. So it could be another Grossmann situation where they thank him for his service, and move on.

MDZ(26)-Gudas(26)
Prorovov(19)-Streit(38)
MacDonald(30)-Ghost(23)
Manning(26)

PK pairs: MDZ-Gudas, Provorov-MacDonald

- Feanor


That's a little scary, especially when you factor in the amount of penalties taken by Gudas.

I'd rather see:
MDZ-Gudas
Provorov-Schultz
AMac-Ghost

PK: MDZ/Gudas and AMac/Schultz with Provorov as the fill in when needed. Also, hopefully, Morin replaces AMac on the pairing with Ghost at some point during the year and the PK becomes: MDZ/Gudas and Morin/Schultz
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 3 @ 10:26 AM ET
I much prefer Streit as a right-side partner for young Provy.

LOL at scratching Manning
- YuenglingJagr


He was scratched quite a lot when MDZ was healthy.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 3 @ 10:26 AM ET
Funny to see Schenn listed as Suspended all offseason. I wasnt really paying attention to it but does that mean that they will essentially have his cap hit off the books to start the season?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 3 @ 10:27 AM ET
They will have the same cap hit if traded!
- YuenglingJagr



Well, maybe, but I don't think they move Streit without eating some $$
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 3 @ 10:27 AM ET
Interesting. The 41 goals and 16 assists definitely say something about the type of player he is. But there is something about that size, skill, and speed combo that is intriguing. Plus they say he likes to hit and fore check.

Maybe that low ranking becomes a blessing in disguise for us.

I find that a player who is big and also enjoys playing physical has a better chance of advancing up the ranks. Its the ones who dont have a physical game that sometimes give me pause....as if they don't want to do what it takes when the players start getting better....

- MBFlyerfan


Think everybody knows by now that I really don't believe in the 'can't teach size' argument. Do like seeing a lot of compete and fearlessness, tho.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 3 @ 10:28 AM ET
Funny to see Schenn listed as Suspended all offseason. I wasnt really paying attention to it but does that mean that they will essentially have his cap hit off the books to start the season?
- YuenglingJagr


I think his cap hit still counts.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 3 @ 10:29 AM ET


Well, maybe, but I don't think they move Streit without eating some $$

- BiggE


Haha No I get you, I just wasnt clear. I am saying that if Streit is traded his cap hit will probably be the same as Schultz...essentially we get the same amount of relief regardless of which player gets traded
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 3 @ 10:30 AM ET
Haha No I get you, I just wasnt clear. I am saying that if Streit is traded his cap hit will probably be the same as Schultz...essentially we get the same amount of relief regardless of which player gets traded
- YuenglingJagr

Gotcha.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 3 @ 10:31 AM ET
Interesting. The 41 goals and 16 assists definitely say something about the type of player he is. But there is something about that size, skill, and speed combo that is intriguing. Plus they say he likes to hit and fore check.

Maybe that low ranking becomes a blessing in disguise for us.

I find that a player who is big and also enjoys playing physical has a better chance of advancing up the ranks. Its the ones who dont have a physical game that sometimes give me pause....as if they don't want to do what it takes when the players start getting better....

- MBFlyerfan



I havent watched him enough to know but I think thats a two way street. I think sometimes guys who have size early on are used to it and can physically overpower people in junior, but that is diminished in the NHL. we will see i guess

...stay tuned
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 3 @ 10:31 AM ET
FYI: New blob is up.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 3 @ 10:32 AM ET
Gotcha.

- BiggE


Lets continue this love story on the new blog
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 3 @ 10:32 AM ET
I think sometimes guys who have size early on are used to it and can physically overpower people in junior, but that is diminished in the NHL. we will see i guess

...stay tuned

- YuenglingJagr


^
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 3 @ 11:52 AM ET
I say no to JG. Yes he is big and can score some goals, but his 3rd year in the Q, is pretty much a man among boys with his size, but really hasnt ever dominated. Had a pretty mediocre season, especially for a "power forward with an elite shot". I get that he scored a bunch of goals, but I would have liked to see him put up crazy offensive numbers in the Q.

If we end up taking him, I will pull hard for him, but I just dont like him as a prospect.

EDIT: His uncle is a former Flyer.

Lead pipe with orange rust, monkey wrench acid reflux because of bad meatballs lock to be a FLyer.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 3 @ 11:54 AM ET
Interesting. The 41 goals and 16 assists definitely say something about the type of player he is. But there is something about that size, skill, and speed combo that is intriguing. Plus they say he likes to hit and fore check.

Maybe that low ranking becomes a blessing in disguise for us.

I find that a player who is big and also enjoys playing physical has a better chance of advancing up the ranks. Its the ones who dont have a physical game that sometimes give me pause....as if they don't want to do what it takes when the players start getting better...
.

- MBFlyerfan


Pretty sure it's actually the opposite
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 3 @ 11:56 AM ET
Pretty sure it's actually the opposite
- PhillySportsGuy

So guys that are big power forward types, but dont play a physical game usually rise in the draft ranks? Thats news to me.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 3 @ 11:59 AM ET
So guys that are big power forward types, but dont play a physical game usually rise in the draft ranks? Thats news to me.
- jak521


I didn't realize he meant draft ranks. I thought he meant they develop faster.
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