Mononoke
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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The saying, "He doesn't have soft hands" probably is the most abused line of crap in hockey. These so called "Soft hands" are always mentioned when a goal is scored, or on a goal scoring streak. How many times did you hear how soft Crosby's hands were during a goal drout in the playoffs ? ZERO times ! - twpguy
Moisturize multiple times daily. That should remedy it. |
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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB Joined: 10.16.2008
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Lol "Nick Bonino type." gtfo
Berube was ripped for saying Bergeron does the second/third line center thing all at once...so why can't Coots? Given that Bergeron had Marchand and Smith among other great players as linemates, and Berube used Coots with a dead Umberger and a half-dead Read and expected offense, it was very unfair and confusing bc he didn't allow him to be that. And he still produced 2C scoring. But Berube wasn't wrong either....Bergeron does do it. Just as hard minutes and zone starts as Coots. He is really his closest comparable to his usage. But this year proved he CAN do it, provided you make the task remotely possible by giving him worthy linemates. That is what makes Coots pretty special: he can do that monumental task and dominate doing so. - Mononoke
I know you are a fan and all, but the domination I don't see. I don't think teams are coming in here scared of Sean Couturier dominating a game. With a more complete lineup I am excited to see what he does.
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Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees Joined: 03.28.2008
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Cizikas (63 points in 230 games in the past three years) got paaaid.
Isles Sign Casey Cizikas To An Extension (5 years, $16.75 mil - Feanor[3.35 AAV])
He is only 25 and could well be a 30+ point 3rd liner going forward. But it makes Raffl (81 points in 217 games) seem like a bargain.
hmm, that is a lot for czikas
with all that money he can buy a vowel for his last name though |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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I know you are a fan and all, but the domination I don't see. I don't think teams are coming in here scared of Sean Couturier dominating a game. With a more complete lineup I am excited to see what he does. - flyer_nutter
You bet opposing coaches are afraid of Coots. They try to game plan around him to avoid having their stars out against them. Because not only can he shut them down scoring wise...he out possesses, out chances, and out scores the other team's stars. |
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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If the Couturier line goes out against the other team's top line and outscores them, which happens the majority of the time, then that's a good start towards winning the game every night. Scaring or dominating other teams is a much higher hurdle.... I can't think of many current players I'm scared of when we play them. |
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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB Joined: 10.16.2008
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Just one thing before I head out for the day, gorgeous time to be riding the bike.
Even with the eventual catch up by father time with Giroux, this is an exciting time to be a fan. I am enjoying it.
Those years waiting in purgatory for the dead weight to be gone are coming to an end. |
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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 01.12.2012
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Lol "Nick Bonino type." gtfo
Berube was ripped for saying Bergeron does the second/third line center thing all at once...so why can't Coots? Given that Bergeron had Marchand and Smith among other great players as linemates, and Berube used Coots with a dead Umberger and a half-dead Read and expected offense, it was very unfair and confusing bc he didn't allow him to be that. And he still produced 2C scoring. But Berube wasn't wrong either....Bergeron does do it. Just as hard minutes and zone starts as Coots. He is really his closest comparable to his usage. But this year proved he CAN do it, provided you make the task remotely possible by giving him worthy linemates. That is what makes Coots pretty special: he can do that monumental task and dominate doing so. - Mononoke
i should have clarified. how bonino is playing right now. the manner in which he is going about it. dude i thought bonino was a meh guy offensively, but hes pretty decent. still dont consider him a great offensive passer, but he makes some deceptively slick plays. while he doesnt have great hands, theyre good enough. and coots has an even better shot.
i love coots as a player, but im not gonna be sold on the notion that he has some 85 point untapped potential. i could see in the 50s being a regular thing though
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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB Joined: 10.16.2008
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Old photo of our boy from 2014. He's got a newer one with her on his fb so I think its legit.
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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i should have clarified. how bonino is playing right now. the manner in which he is going about it. dude i thought bonino was a meh guy offensively, but hes pretty decent. still dont consider him a great offensive passer, but he makes some deceptively slick plays. while he doesnt have great hands, theyre good enough. and coots has an even better shot.
i love coots as a player, but im not gonna be sold on the notion that he has some 85 point untapped potential. i could see in the 50s being a regular thing though - stayinthefnnet
Bergy is only a 55-65 point player, and he gets a whole lot more PP points than Coots on Boston's top unit.
If the PP2 with Konecny and Provorov and all those cool cats can click, I think he can be a perennial 55-60 point player. Since November he was on pace for 65 points, and that was primarily at evens. I think that's a fair ceiling. He doesn't have some explosive untapped potential, but just watching him you know there's a bit more still there skill wise. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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I know you are a fan and all, but the domination I don't see. I don't think teams are coming in here scared of Sean Couturier dominating a game. With a more complete lineup I am excited to see what he does. - flyer_nutter
Couturier is never going to be a player who is going to dominate. He will, and is a player however that can control a game when he's on the ice. He's not the player that Bergeron is. He doesn't have the speed burst, and the same offensive ability that Bergeron has. |
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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB Joined: 10.16.2008
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Couturier is never going to be a player who is going to dominate. He will, and is a player however that can control a game when he's on the ice. He's not the player that Bergeron is. He doesn't have the speed burst, and the same offensive ability that Bergeron has. - MJL
You're a fishing dude too hey?
Got a monster catfish few days ago. Thing was almost the size of my leg. |
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Flyers need a 3rd line center. I am still one of those that (gasp) believes in size having use and don't want some wussy team to watch. So a 3rd like C with size is the hope.
I want Konecny on the wing with Couturier and Brayden. - flyer_nutter
I prefer them trying him on the wing with Giroux and Simmonds |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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You're a fishing dude too hey?
Got a monster catfish few days ago. Thing was almost the size of my leg. - flyer_nutter
Huh? Never fished a day in my life! |
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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 01.12.2012
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Bergy is only a 55-65 point player, and he gets a whole lot more PP points than Coots on Boston's top unit.
If the PP2 with Konecny and Provorov and all those cool cats can click, I think he can be a perennial 55-60 point player. Since November he was on pace for 65 points, and that was primarily at evens. I think that's a fair ceiling. He doesn't have some explosive untapped potential, but just watching him you know there's a bit more still there skill wise. - Mononoke
true. and its obvious and beaten to death, but usage rates, linemates, and general objective of his shifts have a lot to do with overall numbers too.
i dont think people properly took into account what his absence meant for giroux against washington |
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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 01.12.2012
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I know you are a fan and all, but the domination I don't see. I don't think teams are coming in here scared of Sean Couturier dominating a game. With a more complete lineup I am excited to see what he does. - flyer_nutter
hes not going to dominate the game in the sense of a guy like crosby or OV do when they are on.
but he absolutely factors into the overall outlook of a game. |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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You can operate under your own definition of "dominant." It's just a word. It has no intrinsic meaning. If you are out against top lines and out shoot, out chance, and out score them, then I call that pretty damn dominant. If you control the game in all zones, control is just dominance by another name. I'm sure some operate under the idea only players like Lindros or something can qualify. You can use your own definition; I'll use mine. |
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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Read can go off into the sunset with Richards.
I want more speed and size in that bottom six. Matt Read is palliative. Irrelevant to the future cup aspirations of this club.
Give his spot to a kid. - flyer_nutter
I think from this summer through the start of 17-18, we'll see a lot of new players in orange and black. Without taking FA and trades into consideration, we will see by Oct 1, 2017, something along the lines of:
Out: Umberger, Read, VDV, Bellemare, Streit, AMac, Schultz, Neuvirth
In: Konecny, Leier, Lindblom, NAK, Provorov, Morin, Sanheim, Stolarz |
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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 01.12.2012
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You can operate under your own definition of "dominant." It's just a word. It has no intrinsic meaning. If you are out against top lines and out shoot, out chance, and out score them, then I call that pretty damn dominant. I'm sure some operate under the idea only players like Lindros or something can qualify. You can use your own definition; I'll use mine. - Mononoke
pens have been missing that out of jordan staal since he left. it has such a positive trickle down (or up, however you choose to look at it) effect on the entire lineup. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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pens have been missing that out of jordan staal since he left. it has such a positive trickle down (or up, however you choose to look at it) effect on the entire lineup. - stayinthefnnet
Yeah, it's rough having to deal with those Malkin and Crosby guys and having to fit pieces around them. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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hes not going to dominate the game in the sense of a guy like crosby or OV do when they are on.
but he absolutely factors into the overall outlook of a game. - stayinthefnnet
Agreed. I doubt we're going to hear any analyst, beat reporter, coach, GM, blogger, or scout, characterize Couturier as a dominant player. |
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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hmm, that is a lot for czikas
with all that money he can buy a vowel for his last name though - Marc D
His VC% is 33%
That's not awful. |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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You're a fishing dude too hey?
Got a monster catfish few days ago. Thing was almost the size of my leg. - flyer_nutter
What is your height and weight? We need a reference here |
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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I know you are a fan and all, but the domination I don't see. I don't think teams are coming in here scared of Sean Couturier dominating a game. With a more complete lineup I am excited to see what he does. - flyer_nutter
Maybe not "quaking in their boots" scared, but you can be sure they're happy when he's not in the lineup. |
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ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: United States, PA Joined: 06.30.2007
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hmm, that is a lot for czikas
with all that money he can buy a vowel for his last name though - Marc D
It seems Garth has a price for Nielson and view Czikas as someone who can ease the loss. I think he has to find a way to sign Okposo, even if he has too over pay a little. Can't let Okposo and Nielson walk and retain Czikas.
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Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees Joined: 03.28.2008
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It seems Garth has a price for Nielson and view Czikas as someone who can ease the loss. I think he has to find a way to sign Okposo, even if he has too over pay a little. Can't let Okposo and Nielson walk and retain Czikas. - ravishingone
agree
I wonder what they consider a fair price for Nielson? |
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