Who do we have biting for Cullen's spot on the roster? Sundqvist can't do what Cullen does. Not next year and I'm not sure his ceiling is above 38 year old cullen production.

I'd prefer to resign Cullen and trade Fehr. Also frees up a million in cap.
- sditulli

Agreed i thought fehr would bring a bit more. Man i wish we had got cullen in the jordan staal trade, might have saved some sorrows

I'd ship them DP + Kuni to be honest for Barrie. Why keep DP around then? I think there will be a lot of buyers for Barrie though.

If AV's screw it up too much I can see Mac out the door ASAP. Mac, Duchene and Landeskog are awesome players. Its a shame management is so terrible. Its not just the GM, the owner sucks. He spends more time on the Nuggets.
- sammy87

Because he is cheap depth in a position where we don't have much NHL quality depth. Also consider Lovejoy has prob outplayed any contract Pens will be willing to give him and Daley likely will be in his last season with Pens next year. That said if DP and Kuni get Barrie, then def pull the trigger. I know Avs are dumb, but that seems unlikely

Who do we have biting for Cullen's spot on the roster? Sundqvist can't do what Cullen does. Not next year and I'm not sure his ceiling is above 38 year old cullen production.

I'd prefer to resign Cullen and trade Fehr. Also frees up a million in cap.
- sditulli

That kid who tore it up in the AHL playoffs looks like a nice fit. I think hes already jumped Sundqvist for next season. Jake Guentzel... looks like he could come out of the gate and be a stud.

Haha yeah man I mean who wouldn't make that trade? Avs management is bad but no way they're that bad.
- Victoro311

I wish pens would have trown d.p. and a hundred picks at tampa for drouin, i think him and sid each score a 100 pts playing together, for fun just saying

Because he is cheap depth in a position where we don't have much NHL quality depth. Also consider Lovejoy has prob outplayed any contract Pens will be willing to give him and Daley likely will be in his last season with Pens next year. That said if DP and Kuni get Barrie, then def pull the trigger. I know Avs are dumb, but that seems unlikely
- tpcg402

DP and Kuni aren't getting Barrie....this I am certain. Like it or not, DP's stock is not very high.

What choice do they have? Dumoulin could just take a bridge deal and then target nisky money. I think he's only unsigned for 1 or 2 rfa years. So in that case take 2-3 million for those years and then target ufa.
- sditulli

They have plenty of choices. They can go bridge, they can go long term extension. He's an RFA and I don't see Maatta money in any of those scenarios. You need point production to get monster money. Didn't Niskanen put up ~50 points in final season with Pens? Dumo prob won't put that up and won't get PP1 minutes unless team is ravaged by injuries. I don't see why pay 4 or 5 mil when you can pay 2.5 to 3.5 mil to get the player. Whatever though, we agree to disagree i suppose

F the extra day between games for travel. I get it and it makes sense but it helps them way more. It lowers the impact of the momentum, gives more time to rest (which I believe they need more than the pens), and makes my days boring. But I do think this extra day could help Maatta and Sheary. Maatta needs to figure out some way to be more consistent. This extra day may just help him rest for that. Sheary has been good but it seems he gets tired and needs a rest after a while. Now maybe he wont need to be scratched a game to keep it up. Overall this extra day helps them way more so I hate it. Even though its fair.
- Zac_O

I think it helps the team overall. I don't think it can be overstated that traveling and playing 3 time zones away has an effect on players, especially visiting players. I thought from the beginning that this will be a home team series because of that.

DP and Kuni aren't getting Barrie....this I am certain. Like it or not, DP's stock is not very high.
- madmike71

Oh I know. Wasn't my proposal, just saying if Avs are dumb enough then def pull the trigger. The cap is tight and Pens are gonna need DP to play a role next year. Pens have Letang, Daley, Dumo, Maatta, Cole, and DP under contract for next season. Highly doubtful they keep Lovejoy and Schultz without trading some salary away. Prob will sign 1 of those 2 and we have 7d before injuries hit.

Oh I know. Wasn't my proposal, just saying if Avs are dumb enough then def pull the trigger. The cap is tight and Pens are gonna need DP to play a role next year. Pens have Letang, Daley, Dumo, Maatta, Cole, and DP under contract for next season. Highly doubtful they keep Lovejoy and Schultz without trading some salary away. Prob will sign 1 of those 2 and we have 7d before injuries hit.
- tpcg402

I'm convinced it will be MAF on the way out. I would have never said that before the ECF. If Murray wins you the cup, he's your starter next year.

I think they trade DP too and sign Schultz and Cullen.

I'm convinced it will be MAF on the way out. I would have never said that before the ECF. If Murray wins you the cup, he's your starter next year.

I think they trade DP too and sign Schultz and Cullen.
- madmike71

Me too. I think Murray is starter next season unless he completely melts down(unlikely) and MAF comes in and saves the day and wins Pens the cup.

I think it helps the team overall. I don't think it can be overstated that traveling and playing 3 time zones away has an effect on players, especially visiting players. I thought from the beginning that this will be a home team series because of that.
- all-pgh

I just think the sharks need to extra day more since the pens are tiring them out with their speed. Like I said its fair but more beneficial to the sharks.

They have plenty of choices. They can go bridge, they can go long term extension. He's an RFA and I don't see Maatta money in any of those scenarios. You need point production to get monster money. Didn't Niskanen put up ~50 points in final season with Pens? Dumo prob won't put that up and won't get PP1 minutes unless team is ravaged by injuries. I don't see why pay 4 or 5 mil when you can pay 2.5 to 3.5 mil to get the player. Whatever though, we agree to disagree i suppose
- tpcg402

He's RFA on his next contract that is true, but any term takes it into UFA years.

I don't know how to value his rfa years, but his UFA years closest comp is probably paul martin. FWIW martin has only put up 20 pts the past two years. Dumoulin had 16 pts this year. I would expect he's going to be able to push into the mid-20's. If old man paul martin is a 4 year 19.4 million contract then what is Brian Dumoulin entering his prime and also 6'4" so significantly taller. I have to assume his UFA years come in above 5.

I just think the sharks need to extra day more since the pens are tiring them out with their speed. Like I said its fair but more beneficial to the sharks.
- Zac_O

Maatta is the only guy the extra day is helping. He looked pretty rough Wednesday night.

Look at the TOI's for our forwards... Barely anybody touching 20 minutes. I've thought all along they could extend Sid a little more and really 'cause some matchup problems.

He's RFA on his next contract that is true, but any term takes it into UFA years.

I don't know how to value his rfa years, but his UFA years closest comp is probably paul martin. FWIW martin has only put up 20 pts the past two years. Dumoulin had 16 pts this year. I would expect he's going to be able to push into the mid-20's. If old man paul martin is a 4 year 19.4 million contract then what is Brian Dumoulin entering his prime and also 6'4" so significantly taller. I have to assume his UFA years come in above 5.
- sditulli

No doubt, but Paul Martin has been doing this for over 10 years. Just think that it gets done for less than that and less than Maatta. And yes Dumo reminds me a lot of PMart. Love his game.

I'm convinced it will be MAF on the way out. I would have never said that before the ECF. If Murray wins you the cup, he's your starter next year.

I think they trade DP too and sign Schultz and Cullen.
- madmike71

yes x 4

I'm convinced it will be MAF on the way out. I would have never said that before the ECF. If Murray wins you the cup, he's your starter next year.

I think they trade DP too and sign Schultz and Cullen.
- madmike71

Rumor has it (so probably less than 25% chance of being true) that flowers agent is pissed he was only given one chance in the playoffs. Also that he wasn't put in right once he was cleared to play. No reports of flower being angry, but his agent is. Again its all rumor so probably not true.

Maatta is the only guy the extra day is helping. He looked pretty rough Wednesday night.

Look at the TOI's for our forwards... Barely anybody touching 20 minutes. I've thought all along they could extend Sid a little more and really 'cause some matchup problems.
- madmike71

I truly believe it will help Sheary too. He needs rest once in a while to keep producing. Maybe its something I'm putting to much into but it often seems hes best after being rested a bit.

I truly believe it will help Sheary too. He needs rest once in a while to keep producing. Maybe its something I'm putting to much into but it often seems hes best after being rested a bit.
- Zac_O

He's little and plays the kind of game that gets him beaten up. I hope this is just a case of being his first NHL season and not being use to the rigors of the long physical season, but Sheary's conditioning could be an issue moving forward.

Who do we have biting for Cullen's spot on the roster? Sundqvist can't do what Cullen does. Not next year and I'm not sure his ceiling is above 38 year old cullen production.

I'd prefer to resign Cullen and trade Fehr. Also frees up a million in cap.
- sditulli

Cullen is a resign in my opinion.

As for Fehr we have him at 2 mill for another 2 years. Please deliberately pay attention to how effective Fehr is. He's got a reach comparable to Dreamliner's wingspan and that causes major difficulties for the opposing PP and D making outlet passes. He also came off of surgery at the beginning of the year and is peaking late. He's a solid player imo.

Give Cullen the same deal.

I actually pegged him as the best of the 3 D prospects last year (Him, DP, and Harrington). Granted putting him above Harrington took no insight, but deciding his all around game and poise was above DP's offensive value was a leap at the time.
- Guile

With do respect, pegging him last year didn't take much insight... Maatta was on the shelf and DP had already poope the bed and Harry was traded. When we acquired him he was at the bottom of the top D prospects.

Too bad he isn't the coach or GM... he will do what he is told to, or he can be benched. Unless he is the cheating Sidney Crosby, he has to follow orders
- Guile

Then it becomes a dressing room issue and a distraction and devalues him even more, not to mention puts Pitt in a disadvantageous negotiating position. It might be risky but I think its a risk they have to take and put their faith in Murray. If Murray can't handle it then Jarry in a couple years. They're not in a complete sink hole even if the worst case happens.

Me too. I think Murray is starter next season unless he completely melts down(unlikely) and MAF comes in and saves the day and wins Pens the cup.
- tpcg402

100%

Not a surprise, but Sharks have almost traveled 3x amount of miles of that the Pens have this season.

Not a surprise, but Sharks have almost traveled 3x amount of miles of that the Pens have this season.
- tpcg402

Crosby cheats yet again!!!

Crosby cheats yet again!!!
- Victoro311

Well done sir