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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 1 @ 12:36 PM ET
Really I think if Tampa moves Bishop and brings in a young backup and runs with Vas they should be ok retaining Stamkos with a slight discount and the extra year while really being able to keep their other guys as well.

Wonder if Yzerman is talking to Uncle Lou in Toronto knowing the Leafs would likely have interest in Bishop who would not be too bad an option in net.

- Roadrunner75


if bishop is looking for 7 years, than i think the leafs will pass.
Mr.FunFacts
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 09.20.2015

Jun 1 @ 12:38 PM ET
EK,

You do realize when Sid signed his contract, it ate up the exact amount percentage wise of the cap that Toews/Kane's current deals did.

He signed 12yr - 104mil (8.7 per). His cap hit was 14.5% of the cap
Toews/Kane's hit is currently 14.4%

So it wasn't that he gave (or any superstar players, for that matter) any "discounts". He signed for the market value. The NHLPA never wants superstars (and usually do not let them) sign for any "discounts"

It may appear to be one because of the cap increase since the day he signed it.

So expect Stamkos to get as much as he can wherever he can get it. As he should.

- PatShart
This is a very valid statement.
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jun 1 @ 12:38 PM ET
one year of bishop doesn't get you the #6.

bishop will get a late 1st and couple other pieces imo.

- Tumbleweed


ya even then...with a few legit #1 out there this summer...could even be only a 2nd rounder
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jun 1 @ 12:40 PM ET
one year of bishop doesn't get you the #6.

bishop will get a late 1st and couple other pieces imo.

- Tumbleweed


Anyway, why would calgary trade sucha good first rounder ?

In their shoes, I would offer a 3rd pick for Fleury...maybe even just a 4th since the Pens will be happy to get the cap relief
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 1 @ 12:41 PM ET
#27 + Bishop, and if Bishop doesn't want to resign CAL can trade him off for a 1st + at the deadline.
- mventres


GM’s don’t give up high quality young assets for guys with one year left on their deal heading in unrestricted free agency.

Doesn’t matter how many late 1st’s you throw-in.
Mr.FunFacts
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 09.20.2015

Jun 1 @ 12:42 PM ET
Anyway, why would calgary trade sucha good first rounder ?

In their shoes, I would offer a 3rd pick for Fleury...maybe even just a 4th since the Pens will be happy to get the cap relief

- Xizord

What happens if Murrays a 1 time guy and you traded MAF?
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jun 1 @ 12:43 PM ET
Stamkos for Bryan Little ? Is that what the heading means ?
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 1 @ 12:44 PM ET
Anyway, why would calgary trade sucha good first rounder ?

In their shoes, I would offer a 3rd pick for Fleury...maybe even just a 4th since the Pens will be happy to get the cap relief

- Xizord


Penguins would jump all over that. They might even settle for a 6th round pick if you negotiate well enough.
Mr.FunFacts
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 09.20.2015

Jun 1 @ 12:47 PM ET
Penguins would jump all over that. They might even settle for a 6th round pick if you negotiate well enough.
- Streit2ThePoint

Don't no about that Murray can be a one hit wonder. You look pretty dumb if you trade MAF and he does well somewhere else and Murray bust's.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 1 @ 12:50 PM ET
Don't no about that Murray can be a one hit wonder. You look pretty dumb if you trade MAF and he does well somewhere else and Murray bust's.
- Mr.FunFacts


I was being sarcasmistic
Mr.FunFacts
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 09.20.2015

Jun 1 @ 12:52 PM ET
I was being sarcasmistic
- Streit2ThePoint

any how im out.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 1 @ 12:54 PM ET
any how im out.
- Mr.FunFacts


peace out girl scout
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Jun 1 @ 12:54 PM ET
#27 + Bishop, and if Bishop doesn't want to resign CAL can trade him off for a 1st + at the deadline.
- mventres

When I saw "# 27" I thought you were talking about Jonathan Drouin. I just about lost it because it looked like you wanted Bishop AND Drouin for the 6th overall.
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 1 @ 12:57 PM ET
Plan has Always been one day move from bishop and have vasy start issue is right now the Lightning need to get vasy a very good back up he is still young. Can see a team like buffalo or the flames really pushing for bishop
LatentC
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I AM ZAMBONI
Joined: 07.19.2014

Jun 1 @ 12:57 PM ET
Sidney Crosby should be making over ten million. He makes 8.7.


Actually, Ek, that's only his cap hit. If you look at the salary figures, he's pulled in 12 million per year for the past 3 seasons. Next year he'll be making 10.9m per year for 2 years, and it continues to taper off from there. They snuck his front-loaded contract in before the last CBA change (those types of deals aren't allowed anymore).

You can see the figures for yourself: http://www.generalfanager.com/players/1576
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jun 1 @ 12:58 PM ET
I was being sarcasmistic
- Streit2ThePoint



ok
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 1 @ 1:01 PM ET
ok
- DeflatedPucks


ok
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jun 1 @ 1:02 PM ET
EK,

You do realize when Sid signed his contract, it ate up the exact amount percentage wise of the cap that Toews/Kane's current deals did.

He signed 12yr - 104mil (8.7 per). His cap hit was 14.5% of the cap
Toews/Kane's hit is currently 14.4%

So it wasn't that he gave (or any superstar players, for that matter) any "discounts". He signed for the market value. The NHLPA never wants superstars (and usually do not let them) sign for any "discounts"

It may appear to be one because of the cap increase since the day he signed it.

So expect Stamkos to get as much as he can wherever he can get it. As he should.

- PatShart



A consideration is, that Sid knew the new CBA would limit contract length to 8 years max. That's why he made the deal as he did for 12 years then. Try and get a longer deal before the contract limit comes into play. He gave up greater $ for term.
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 1 @ 1:04 PM ET
IF TB offers 9Mill and someone is offering 11Mill, no chance that Stamkos stays.
He is not leaving 14mill on the table. Also, that 1 extra year is not overly important. By 33yrs old, Stamkos, a workout fanatic will still get his big dollars on the next contract (cap will be higher by than as well).
TB going to have to come closer to 10mill IMO to retain.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jun 1 @ 1:08 PM ET
ok
- Streit2ThePoint

agreed
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 1 @ 1:10 PM ET
26 yrs old and he is past his prime?
- Vukota

Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 1 @ 1:12 PM ET
Isn't anyone else here disappointed that FatMarsh promised some hot takes and then didn't deliver?
- smellmyfinger


It's very hurtful.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 1 @ 1:14 PM ET
IF TB offers 9Mill and someone is offering 11Mill, no chance that Stamkos stays.
He is not leaving 14mill on the table. Also, that 1 extra year is not overly important. By 33yrs old, Stamkos, a workout fanatic will still get his big dollars on the next contract (cap will be higher by than as well).
TB going to have to come closer to 10mill IMO to retain.

- Cooshie

Post tax income says you're wrong.
sliprock65
Joined: 08.20.2010

Jun 1 @ 1:17 PM ET

However, according to multiple sources I have spoken to over the last day



Well if that doesn't clear it up, nothing will
LatentC
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I AM ZAMBONI
Joined: 07.19.2014

Jun 1 @ 1:17 PM ET
A consideration is, that Sid knew the new CBA would limit contract length to 8 years max. That's why he made the deal as he did for 12 years then. Try and get a longer deal before the contract limit comes into play. He gave up greater $ for term.
- DeflatedPucks


Oh, I wasn't trying to make it sound like the act of signing such a contract was unscrupulous (yet reading over what I typed, it could indeed be misconstrued as such). Giroux has a front-loaded contract as well, albeit his salary numbers don't fall as low since it's a lesser term. Just needed to note that newer contracts are balanced in such a way that salary remains consistent in each year. Hence why Ek thought that Sid was only making 8.7 (his cap hit) versus the "real" amount.

TL;DR: does Ek even GeneralFanager?
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