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bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 1 @ 3:05 PM ET
Disagree
- Der Kaiser





All I can see is that my life is pretty plain I like watching the puddles gather rain.

Great lyrics.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 1 @ 3:09 PM ET
Disagree
- Der Kaiser



bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 1 @ 3:40 PM ET
The mock draft on NHL.com even has us taken the center Jost over Chychrun and Sergechev. That seems like a reach to me.
- MillerTime1130


I don't see that happening at all. Despite Gerbe's love for him. Center is the last thing we need. And I know he could plausibly play wing. But I'd rather get Nylander or one of the top three defenceman
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Jun 1 @ 3:56 PM ET
I don't see that happening at all. Despite Gerbe's love for him. Center is the last thing we need. And I know he could plausibly play wing. But I'd rather get Nylander or one of the top three defenceman
- bluengold12


Agree with above.



Pass on Jost.
MillerTime1130
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 1 @ 4:06 PM ET
I don't see that happening at all. Despite Gerbe's love for him. Center is the last thing we need. And I know he could plausibly play wing. But I'd rather get Nylander or one of the top three defenceman
- bluengold12


Agreed. A top 3 defensemen or Nylander is bound to fall into our laps.

I don't want Keller or Jost or Brown
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 1 @ 4:38 PM ET
I don't see that happening at all. Despite Gerbe's love for him. Center is the last thing we need. And I know he could plausibly play wing. But I'd rather get Nylander or one of the top three defenceman
- bluengold12


We don't need anymore centers . Winger or D in the first round .
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 1 @ 4:51 PM ET
I have serious doubts about Nylander. I believe he could even fall out of the top ten meaning Buffalo will pass on him. I really hope they do not take him even if he falls to us. He is a very soft perimeter player that requires other players to provide offence for him. Not the type of player I want
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 1 @ 4:53 PM ET
We don't need anymore centers . Winger or D in the first round .
- cabin

If a guy can play centre he can play the wing, if a guy plays the wing he might not necessarily play centre
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 1 @ 4:59 PM ET
If a guy can play centre he can play the wing, if a guy plays the wing he might not necessarily play centre
- Pegullaville

Possible and has happened in the past . Rather have a dedicated wing man.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 1 @ 5:00 PM ET


All I can see is that my life is pretty plain I like watching the puddles gather rain.

Great lyrics.

- bluengold12



"Up, pup. Pup is up."

LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.16.2011

Jun 1 @ 5:14 PM ET
If a guy can play centre he can play the wing, if a guy plays the wing he might not necessarily play centre
- Pegullaville

One who eats lions has not shown that to be true.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 1 @ 5:28 PM ET
More I read on top three defenseman the more confused I get.

Most NHL scouts and directors of scouting and also draft reporters are saying Sergachev is the most NHL ready and could even challenge to play this year. I don't know where the Sabres have him in their ranks and I'd be very curious to hear Murray talk about him and a few of the other top prospects
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 1 @ 5:30 PM ET
I have serious doubts about Nylander. I believe he could even fall out of the top ten meaning Buffalo will pass on him. I really hope they do not take him even if he falls to us. He is a very soft perimeter player that requires other players to provide offence for him. Not the type of player I want
- MCGUIZZY


No way will he fall out of the top 10. I'd say 90% he's gone by 7

And what do you mean have other players provide offense for him? That's the whole point of a goal scoring winger... for guys like Eichel and Reinhart to give him the shot and he fires. You don't get OHL rookie of the year for nothing. The guy can play and would bring to the team something we don't have... Skill, speed and goal scoring ability
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 1 @ 5:36 PM ET
No way will he fall out of the top 10. I'd say 90% he's gone by 7

And what do you mean have other players provide offense for him? That's the whole point of a goal scoring winger... for guys like Eichel and Reinhart to give him the shot and he fires. You don't get OHL rookie of the year for nothing. The guy can play and would bring to the team something we don't have... Skill, speed and goal scoring ability

- bluengold12



He doesnt drive the offense and picks up alot of secondary assists. Most of his goals are tap ins or fed from other players (mcleod) digging in the corners and getting the puck for him. hes soft and gets pushed off the puck in juniors. not good qualities for a top ten pick.
rover16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 08.09.2012

Jun 1 @ 5:36 PM ET
I have serious doubts about Nylander. I believe he could even fall out of the top ten meaning Buffalo will pass on him. I really hope they do not take him even if he falls to us. He is a very soft perimeter player that requires other players to provide offence for him. Not the type of player I want
- MCGUIZZY


I cant see murray taking him. My best guess is chychyrun. Obviously we will have to address speed at some point, but if you use the words "small", "soft", and "perimeter" in the same scouting report, murray wont be interested.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 1 @ 5:41 PM ET
He doesnt drive the offense and picks up alot of secondary assists. Most of his goals are tap ins or fed from other players (mcleod) digging in the corners and getting the puck for him. hes soft and gets pushed off the puck in juniors. not good qualities for a top ten pick.
- MCGUIZZY


We've drafted enough "bigger" guys who can create offense. We need speedy skilled guys who pounce on the offense handed to them by guys like Eichel, Reinhart and O'Riley. That was our biggest problem on offense times 100. If I have to sit through another season of bums missing grade A chances given to them by our skilled playmakers I may hurl... Nylander doesn't have to be a giant tough guy he just has to put the puck in the net and be there where it counts.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 1 @ 5:42 PM ET
I cant see murray taking him. My best guess is chychyrun. Obviously we will have to address speed at some point, but if you use the words "small", "soft", and "perimeter" in the same scouting report, murray wont be interested.
- rover16


I trust this scouting report from an actual draft site a little bit better...

He’s an excellent skater with a deadly shot, but he can score goals from in close thanks to a ridiculous set of hands. Nylander is able to make smart decisions as he maneuvers through traffic, and his ability to stickhandle in and around a dense field of sticks and skates while knowing exactly where his linemates will be makes him an indefensible threat on the rush. He’s impossible to prepare for, as he can beat you with his playmaking or his heavy shot. And much like his aforementioned brother, Alexander loves to hang onto the puck for what may seem like an eternity, but is done in a sensible fashion without trapping himself into a corner. He can play either side of center ice, and kills penalties, so don’t you dare consider him a one-trick pony. Nylander should be considered one of the draft’s best goal scorers, but his ability to thread the needle and play selfless hockey makes him one of the few two-pronged threats available for 2016.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 1 @ 5:45 PM ET
We've drafted enough "bigger" guys who can create offense. We need speedy skilled guys who pounce on the offense handed to them by guys like Eichel, Reinhart and O'Riley. That was our biggest problem on offense times 100. If I have to sit through another season of bums missing grade A chances given to them by our skilled playmakers I may hurl... Nylander doesn't have to be a giant tough guy he just has to put the puck in the net and be there where it counts.
- bluengold12



You will because Nylander will require at least a couple years getting stronger, learning how to play defense and learning how to handle NHL defenders (since he cant even handle junior players)
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 1 @ 5:47 PM ET
You will because Nylander will require at least a couple years getting stronger, learning how to play defense and learning how to handle NHL defenders (since he cant even handle junior players)
- MCGUIZZY


Considering he was OHL rookie of the year I'd say he can handle them quite well
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 1 @ 5:49 PM ET
Considering he was OHL rookie of the year I'd say he can handle them quite well
- bluengold12



Its cool man its fine to have your opinion. I have mine. I hope they do not draft him
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 1 @ 5:53 PM ET
Its cool man its fine to have your opinion. I have mine. I hope they do not draft him
- MCGUIZZY


I get it you have an opinion and I have mine but it's a fact that he was OHL rookie of the year and led his team in goals.

I don't know about you but we have enough bigger wingers. It's nice to have a speedy pure goal scorer in our ranks. Even if he's not ready next year he brings something no one comes close to having in our organization at any level.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 1 @ 5:58 PM ET
Interesting fact I did not know...

"The upside of Juolevi is that he is more NHL-ready than Jacob Chychrun and many other potential prospective defenders, because Juolevi is on loan from Finland is eligible to play in the AHL next year instead of going back to junior."
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 1 @ 6:02 PM ET
I get it you have an opinion and I have mine but it's a fact that he was OHL rookie of the year and led his team in goals.

I don't know about you but we have enough bigger wingers. It's nice to have a speedy pure goal scorer in our ranks. Even if he's not ready next year he brings something no one comes close to having in our organization at any level.

- bluengold12



Hes one dimensional to the highest degree thats my issue. I think there are more complete players in the draft that I would be shooting for
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Jun 1 @ 6:02 PM ET
Yes Nylander !!! Speed kills but he is soft as butter and a wussy
But like I said if he scores etc who cares
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 1 @ 6:04 PM ET
Hes one dimensional to the highest degree thats my issue. I think there are more complete players in the draft that I would be shooting for
- MCGUIZZY


There's not one forward better in terms of goal scoring that we could actually realistically get in the draft. It's a no brainier to me unless Murray loves one of the likely two defenders left more
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