would you stop that lol...
- martox

Oh, I will ... if you can arrange thru your BFF that me and my son can sit in 66's box for a clinching game 5 this year? All will be forgotten. I promise.

He's got a concussion, the question is just how much of a concussion does he have? I dont think it looks good that he played another shift after then had to be shut down.

It is the cup though, and players have certainly played with concussions before. Not advocating that he should play, he probably shouldnt... but the chances are better that he never plays in another one than he makes it back, in his place if Im not woosy Im playing.
- stackthepads

We don't really know what's going on with him. Him coming off again after one shift could have been being extra cautious. Him being on the ice today is honestly a very good sign as he would have been ordered to stare at a dark ceiling for a day if he was symptomatic.

He is not getting 6 mil per nor would he sign for 6 years at 2 mil per, so that 2 x 6 isn't happening any way you slice it.
- tpcg402

Oops meants 2 years for 6 total. Mistype though fairly obvious being that his QO for the next 2 years is 3.8 per.

We don't really know what's going on with him. Him coming off again after one shift could have been being extra cautious. Him being on the ice today is honestly a very good sign as he would have been ordered to stare at a dark ceiling for a day if he was symptomatic.
- hardnosed

Yohe's been reporting that Rust is in good spirits. Probably doesn't mean much positive but it's definitely not negative.

Oh, I will ... if you can arrange thru your BFF that me and my son can sit in 66's box for a clinching game 5 this year? All will be forgotten. I promise.
- Oneonta Penguin

Oops meants 2 years for 6 total. Mistype though fairly obvious being that his QO for the next 2 years is 3.8 per.
- sditulli

Yea, I believe he'll take a "discount" with Pens as a thank you for resurrecting his career. Does anybody remember who called Schultz "worst player in league"? What a fool that guy is

Yea, I believe he'll take a "discount" with Pens as a thank you for resurrecting his career. Does anybody remember who called Schultz "worst player in league"? What a fool that guy is
- tpcg402

Yeah that Simmons jackass that writes for the Toronto Sun. He recently wrote an article that Kessel's character problems are the reason he was left off team USA and that he was the reason USA underachieved last Olympics

Yea, I believe he'll take a "discount" with Pens as a thank you for resurrecting his career. Does anybody remember who called Schultz "worst player in league"? What a fool that guy is
- tpcg402

Incidentally, I think the guy that called him "the worst player in the NHL" is the same moron that recently trashed Kessel in that TO rag. Simmons I think is his name.

Schultz is still a young guy, he'd be wise to take a two year discount deal here. This team/system is perfect for him and he won't be torn to shreds mercilessly if he has a bad game or two.

Yeah that Simmons jackass that writes for the Toronto Sun. He recently wrote an article that Kessel's character problems are the reason he was left off team USA and that he was the reason USA underachieved last Olympics
- Victoro311

Beat me to it. Jerk.

Beat me to it. Jerk.
- madmike71

As I said on the last blog, I guess its a rule that all sports journalists with the last name Simmons are clowns.

Yeah that Simmons jackass that writes for the Toronto Sun. He recently wrote an article that Kessel's character problems are the reason he was left off team USA and that he was the reason USA underachieved last Olympics
- Victoro311

Does he explain how the player voted tournament MVP caused the underachievement?

Personally, I think he signs here 2 x 6. Defenseman market wasn't as strong last year as the year Orpik/Nisky/Engelland all got big deals. I just think a GM might gamble on his talent and offer him something like 4 by 16. Too often in sports GM's give big contracts to guys on the downside of their career. With Schultz your basically signing him for his prime 26-29 years and gambling Edmonton is dysfunctional and Schultz has talent. If the cap goes up the next few years we could see that market improve again where 4/5D get big bucks.

FWIW if Schultz hits his potential I think he could be something like Yandle...probably better than Daley.
- sditulli

I don't think he'd give a long term discount.. I think 2.5/3Mx2years would be the type of discount he would give. Gives him a couple years to really build up his value then sign his mega deal at 27 years old. He wouldn't under value himself for 6 years as he would miss his "big money" window.

Thanks guys. Yea, I heard of Simmons, but didn't know he was the imbecile who said that about Schultz. And how can anybody hate the Phil, he's a national treasure.

Oops meants 2 years for 6 total. Mistype though fairly obvious being that his QO for the next 2 years is 3.8 per.
- sditulli

Sorry, just saw that.. disregard my last message, we are on the same page

Incidentally, I think the guy that called him "the worst player in the NHL" is the same moron that recently trashed Kessel in that TO rag. Simmons I think is his name.

Schultz is still a young guy, he'd be wise to take a two year discount deal here. This team/system is perfect for him and he won't be torn to shreds mercilessly if he has a bad game or two.
- madmike71

I don't share the same philosophy. I think people act in their own best interests. I don't remember J.A. Happ taking a discount from the Pirates instead he cashed a $39 million check which is about $34 million more than he would have gotten if the Pirates didn't resurrect his career.

So I'm not a big believer he's going to sign for close to $2. Close to $3 I think gets it done since he can argue its his best shot at getting a big top 4 D man in his prime contract in a few years. TIOPS was rumoring that the Kings/Caps are scouting him. Caps personally love to overpay ex-Penguin defenseman.

Does he explain how the player voted tournament MVP caused the underachievement?
- stackthepads

Nope. He claims that many of the players pointed to Kessel as someone who let them down. The MVP vote was probably just a practical joke

I don't share the same philosophy. I think people act in their own best interests. I don't remember J.A. Happ taking a discount from the Pirates instead he cashed a $39 million check which is about $34 million more than he would have gotten if the Pirates didn't resurrect his career.

So I'm not a big believer he's going to sign for close to $2. Close to $3 I think gets it done since he can argue its his best shot at getting a big top 4 D man in his prime contract in a few years. TIOPS was rumoring that the Kings/Caps are scouting him. Caps personally love to overpay ex-Penguin defenseman.
- sditulli

There are plenty of teams that could entice Schultz with a good situation.
Chicago needs a top 4 dman too.

I think Schultz is a great find by JR, he definitely gets 3+... 4 @ 3.5 is a not a bad signing IMO.

I don't share the same philosophy. I think people act in their own best interests. I don't remember J.A. Happ taking a discount from the Pirates instead he cashed a $39 million check which is about $34 million more than he would have gotten if the Pirates didn't resurrect his career.

So I'm not a big believer he's going to sign for close to $2. Close to $3 I think gets it done since he can argue its his best shot at getting a big top 4 D man in his prime contract in a few years. TIOPS was rumoring that the Kings/Caps are scouting him. Caps personally love to overpay ex-Penguin defenseman.
- sditulli

I didn't say he will, I said he should. He could parlay a 2 year deal here into a big payday in a couple of years. This team/system is the perfect situation to make that happen. I'd offer him 2.5 for 2 years. If somebody wants to offer more for such a small sample size, let them.

I didn't say he will, I said he should. He could parlay a 2 year deal here into a big payday in a couple of years. This team/system is the perfect situation to make that happen. I'd offer him 2.5 for 2 years. If somebody wants to offer more for such a small sample size, let them.
- madmike71

I basically feel the same way. We can live without Schultz, I just really don't want to. But the last thing I want to do is take a monumental risk by offering Schultz a huge contract based off of a small sample size where change of scenery high may have had a big influence. Especially if the cap isn't jumping by 3 mil as reported. We can't afford such a risk especially now that we have Prow and that Swede in the system up the right side.

Yea, I believe he'll take a "discount" with Pens as a thank you for resurrecting his career. Does anybody remember who called Schultz "worst player in league"? What a fool that guy is
- tpcg402

Oiler's blogger was one of those who called him that.

I basically feel the same way. We can live without Schultz, I just really don't want to. But the last thing I want to do is take a monumental risk by offering Schultz a huge contract based off of a small sample size where change of scenery high may have had a big influence. Especially if the cap isn't jumping by 3 mil as reported. We can't afford such a risk especially now that we have Prow and that Swede in the system up the right side.
- Victoro311

It's a really small sample size as a sheltered 3rd pairing D. I'm skeptical that big offers are coming his way. 28 games as a Penguin. 1 goal, 11 pts. That doesn't scream big money offers.

I didn't say he will, I said he should. He could parlay a 2 year deal here into a big payday in a couple of years. This team/system is the perfect situation to make that happen. I'd offer him 2.5 for 2 years. If somebody wants to offer more for such a small sample size, let them.
- madmike71

Well rumors are other quality teams are interested. I think its almost certain he gets a quality offer from a well-coached team in the 2 year 3 to 3.5 /year area. I think theres a good chance a 2nd tier team offers him 4/16. I guess my point is if he takes 2.5 here its charity and he's almost certain to go UFA. Maybe circles back around and decides he wants to stay, but he will listen to offers. If we come in a 3/year I think we can sign him pre-UFA.

It's a really small sample size as a sheltered 3rd pairing D. I'm skeptical that big offers are coming his way. 28 games as a Penguin. 1 goal, 11 pts. That doesn't scream big money offers.
- madmike71

[conspiracy theory] We didn't play Schultz on PP1 this season to lower his value and next year when he's signed to a team friendly contract Letang will be kicking rocks at 5v4 [/conspiracy theory]

Let's go Driller Philler!!! Wooooo!!!

It's a really small sample size as a sheltered 3rd pairing D. I'm skeptical that big offers are coming his way. 28 games as a Penguin. 1 goal, 11 pts. That doesn't scream big money offers.
- madmike71

Thats 30 pts for a dman playing 3D minutes and 2nd PP time. Thats not bad.
Up his minutes to 2nd pairing and top PP time and maybe he's a 50 pt player.