You're right. And the word "premeditated" along with a chart of violence levels would need to be included too.
- smellmyfinger

Well that goes without saying!!

Sharks in 5 or 6.......

Sharks in 5 or 6.......
- Ur Not Me

If it goes 7 it will be 4th of July by the time they crown a Champion, did you see all the days off the teams have in this series?

I didn't mention him in depth because I've praised him throughout the playoffs. He is a valuable member if the Sharks and a game changer but there are certain intangibles the players around him possess that give San Jose an edge in this series.
- Steve Palumbo

Ok, but I'd have expected that he'd figure more prominently in your reasons. It's rare for a D to win the C. Smythe, even though Keith won it last year. i've watched a fair bit of Sharks games this year and for me, Burns solid play is a huge factor in the Sharks becoming a contender compared to earlier playoff runs. He's been fantastic all year. I hope he wins the Norris but even getting nominated is a big deal, since he plays on the west coast and eastern media are not exposed to him nearly as much as they are to teams in the east.
I say SJ in 6, 5 if they get lucky.

6 Reasons.
Joe Pa
Joe T
Couture
Burns
Hertl
Donskoimarleauward

Heres a few fallacies in the minds of Pittsburgh Penguins fans.

Speed - Pens fans think they are so much faster than the Sharks? Sharks are pretty fast skaters in their own right, but maybe Pens have some faster skaters. Fine. But that doesnt really mean much. The puck moves faster than anyone can skate. Sharks have far better defense than Pitt. That means the break outs and transition of the Sharks will be far faster and better. SO this perceived notion of speed that Pens have over the Sharks isnt real.

Depth - Also a false notion. Because you have watered down top lines you think that makes you better? haha. If anything you are making your top player more ineffective by not surrounding them with other tlalneted players. Id say having Malkin on the 'third line' basically makes him obsolete. See his mere 4 goals in the playoffs. Even Crosby's line looks questionable to me and will get dominated by Vlasic and the Couture line.

HBK - Pens fans are obsessed with this line that really is not that good. Within the first couple games i would epect that this line gets broken up.

Heres a few fallacies in the minds of Pittsburgh Penguins fans.

Speed - Pens fans think they are so much faster than the Sharks? Sharks are pretty fast skaters in their own right, but maybe Pens have some faster skaters. Fine. But that doesnt really mean much. The puck moves faster than anyone can skate. Sharks have far better defense than Pitt. That means the break outs and transition of the Sharks will be far faster and better. SO this perceived notion of speed that Pens have over the Sharks isnt real.

Depth - Also a false notion. Because you have watered down top lines you think that makes you better? haha. If anything you are making your top player more ineffective by not surrounding them with other tlalneted players. Id say having Malkin on the 'third line' basically makes him obsolete. See his mere 4 goals in the playoffs. Even Crosby's line looks questionable to me and will get dominated by Vlasic and the Couture line.

HBK - Pens fans are obsessed with this line that really is not that good. Within the first couple games i would epect that this line gets broken up.
- SJFreez19

Heres a few fallacies in the minds of Pittsburgh Penguins fans.

Speed - Pens fans think they are so much faster than the Sharks? Sharks are pretty fast skaters in their own right, but maybe Pens have some faster skaters. Fine. But that doesnt really mean much. The puck moves faster than anyone can skate. Sharks have far better defense than Pitt. That means the break outs and transition of the Sharks will be far faster and better. SO this perceived notion of speed that Pens have over the Sharks isnt real.

Depth - Also a false notion. Because you have watered down top lines you think that makes you better? haha. If anything you are making your top player more ineffective by not surrounding them with other tlalneted players. Id say having Malkin on the 'third line' basically makes him obsolete. See his mere 4 goals in the playoffs. Even Crosby's line looks questionable to me and will get dominated by Vlasic and the Couture line.

HBK - Pens fans are obsessed with this line that really is not that good. Within the first couple games i would epect that this line gets broken up.
- SJFreez19

Interesting post. I will be interested to see what gets edited.

Sharks in 5 or 6.......
- Ur Not Me

it goes to 7

Heres a few fallacies in the minds of Pittsburgh Penguins fans.

Speed - Pens fans think they are so much faster than the Sharks? Sharks are pretty fast skaters in their own right, but maybe Pens have some faster skaters. Fine. But that doesnt really mean much. The puck moves faster than anyone can skate. Sharks have far better defense than Pitt. That means the break outs and transition of the Sharks will be far faster and better. SO this perceived notion of speed that Pens have over the Sharks isnt real.

Depth - Also a false notion. Because you have watered down top lines you think that makes you better? haha. If anything you are making your top player more ineffective by not surrounding them with other tlalneted players. Id say having Malkin on the 'third line' basically makes him obsolete. See his mere 4 goals in the playoffs. Even Crosby's line looks questionable to me and will get dominated by Vlasic and the Couture line.

HBK - Pens fans are obsessed with this line that really is not that good. Within the first couple games i would epect that this line gets broken up.
- SJFreez19

The score and shot total from tonight beg to differ with everything you said...

Heres a few fallacies in the minds of Pittsburgh Penguins fans.

Speed - Pens fans think they are so much faster than the Sharks? Sharks are pretty fast skaters in their own right, but maybe Pens have some faster skaters. Fine. But that doesnt really mean much. The puck moves faster than anyone can skate. Sharks have far better defense than Pitt. That means the break outs and transition of the Sharks will be far faster and better. SO this perceived notion of speed that Pens have over the Sharks isnt real.

Depth - Also a false notion. Because you have watered down top lines you think that makes you better? haha. If anything you are making your top player more ineffective by not surrounding them with other tlalneted players. Id say having Malkin on the 'third line' basically makes him obsolete. See his mere 4 goals in the playoffs. Even Crosby's line looks questionable to me and will get dominated by Vlasic and the Couture line.

HBK - Pens fans are obsessed with this line that really is not that good. Within the first couple games i would epect that this line gets broken up.
- SJFreez19

Me thinks you should reconsider and delete this. Both teams are in the SCF's for a reason. To completely discredit either team is asinine.

Heres a few fallacies in the minds of Pittsburgh Penguins fans.

Speed - Pens fans think they are so much faster than the Sharks? Sharks are pretty fast skaters in their own right, but maybe Pens have some faster skaters. Fine. But that doesnt really mean much. The puck moves faster than anyone can skate. Sharks have far better defense than Pitt. That means the break outs and transition of the Sharks will be far faster and better. SO this perceived notion of speed that Pens have over the Sharks isnt real.

Depth - Also a false notion. Because you have watered down top lines you think that makes you better? haha. If anything you are making your top player more ineffective by not surrounding them with other tlalneted players. Id say having Malkin on the 'third line' basically makes him obsolete. See his mere 4 goals in the playoffs. Even Crosby's line looks questionable to me and will get dominated by Vlasic and the Couture line.

HBK - Pens fans are obsessed with this line that really is not that good. Within the first couple games i would epect that this line gets broken up.
- SJFreez19

- Guile

The shark fan must have gone to bed

Heres a few fallacies in the minds of Pittsburgh Penguins fans.

Speed - Pens fans think they are so much faster than the Sharks? Sharks are pretty fast skaters in their own right, but maybe Pens have some faster skaters. Fine. But that doesnt really mean much. The puck moves faster than anyone can skate. Sharks have far better defense than Pitt. That means the break outs and transition of the Sharks will be far faster and better. SO this perceived notion of speed that Pens have over the Sharks isnt real.

Depth - Also a false notion. Because you have watered down top lines you think that makes you better? haha. If anything you are making your top player more ineffective by not surrounding them with other tlalneted players. Id say having Malkin on the 'third line' basically makes him obsolete. See his mere 4 goals in the playoffs. Even Crosby's line looks questionable to me and will get dominated by Vlasic and the Couture line.

HBK - Pens fans are obsessed with this line that really is not that good. Within the first couple games i would epect that this line gets broken up.
- SJFreez19

I feel compelled to point out that the Pens got a goal from each of the top 3 lines tonight and the HBK line you just trashed got the winner and were very effective as usual. So these "fallacies" you are talking about were actually on full display in the Pens favor tonight. The Sharks had a lot of issues containing the Pens speed, and truth be told if not for your goalie it would have been 4-0 in the first period. The shot totals and possession metric will bear it out as well. The Sharks are for real no doubt and I wasn't surprised at all that they tied it. It's going to be a long series, because I think these teams are pretty evenly matched, but the Pens did to the Sharks pretty much the same thing they've done the whole playoffs...win with speed and tenacious puck pursuit. That line that "isn't that good" is going to make you rue that statement I fear.

I don't blame you for saying this stuff, the Sharks over the course of the weekend became the darlings of the hockey media because there is sentimental value in Thornton and Marleau's story and it's all you've likely been hearing since Thursday night. That's nice and all, but you'll have to excuse the Penguins if they don't particularly feel like providing the foil for the happy ending everyone seems to want. They've earned every win and beaten some damn good teams to get where they are.

- martox

Heres a few fallacies in the minds of Pittsburgh Penguins fans.

Speed - Pens fans think they are so much faster than the Sharks? Sharks are pretty fast skaters in their own right, but maybe Pens have some faster skaters. Fine. But that doesnt really mean much. The puck moves faster than anyone can skate. Sharks have far better defense than Pitt. That means the break outs and transition of the Sharks will be far faster and better. SO this perceived notion of speed that Pens have over the Sharks isnt real.

Depth - Also a false notion. Because you have watered down top lines you think that makes you better? haha. If anything you are making your top player more ineffective by not surrounding them with other tlalneted players. Id say having Malkin on the 'third line' basically makes him obsolete. See his mere 4 goals in the playoffs. Even Crosby's line looks questionable to me and will get dominated by Vlasic and the Couture line.

HBK - Pens fans are obsessed with this line that really is not that good. Within the first couple games i would epect that this line gets broken up.
- SJFreez19

Pens D strength is the breakout. Every one of their defensemen can make a great first pass.

As mentioned above, all three of those lines scored tonight. In addition, speed is a huge weapon. Foot speed creates chaos. Once again, this was proven over and over again throughout the game.

I love the Sharks. This series is a toss up. You sir, however, seem to just not understand the game of hockey. "The puck moves faster than anyone can skate.". Lol

Heres a few fallacies in the minds of Pittsburgh Penguins fans.

Speed - Pens fans think they are so much faster than the Sharks? Sharks are pretty fast skaters in their own right, but maybe Pens have some faster skaters. Fine. But that doesnt really mean much. The puck moves faster than anyone can skate. Sharks have far better defense than Pitt. That means the break outs and transition of the Sharks will be far faster and better. SO this perceived notion of speed that Pens have over the Sharks isnt real.

Depth - Also a false notion. Because you have watered down top lines you think that makes you better? haha. If anything you are making your top player more ineffective by not surrounding them with other tlalneted players. Id say having Malkin on the 'third line' basically makes him obsolete. See his mere 4 goals in the playoffs. Even Crosby's line looks questionable to me and will get dominated by Vlasic and the Couture line.

HBK - Pens fans are obsessed with this line that really is not that good. Within the first couple games i would epect that this line gets broken up.
- SJFreez19

Good game played by the Pens last night. Sharks got dominated in the 1st and sort of settled in, in the 2nd.

Gotta give credit to both goalies last night, Joner kept us in it when it could have been 4-0 and after we tied it, MM shut the door on some good chances to keep it tied.

Going to be a good and long series.

Good game played by the Pens last night. Sharks got dominated in the 1st and sort of settled in, in the 2nd.

Gotta give credit to both goalies last night, Joner kept us in it when it could have been 4-0 and after we tied it, MM shut the door on some good chances to keep it tied.

Going to be a good and long series.

I feel compelled to point out that the Pens got a goal from each of the top 3 lines tonight and the HBK line you just trashed got the winner and were very effective as usual. So these "fallacies" you are talking about were actually on full display in the Pens favor tonight. The Sharks had a lot of issues containing the Pens speed, and truth be told if not for your goalie it would have been 4-0 in the first period. The shot totals and possession metric will bear it out as well. The Sharks are for real no doubt and I wasn't surprised at all that they tied it. It's going to be a long series, because I think these teams are pretty evenly matched, but the Pens did to the Sharks pretty much the same thing they've done the whole playoffs...win with speed and tenacious puck pursuit. That line that "isn't that good" is going to make you rue that statement I fear.

I don't blame you for saying this stuff, the Sharks over the course of the weekend became the darlings of the hockey media because there is sentimental value in Thornton and Marleau's story and it's all you've likely been hearing since Thursday night. That's nice and all, but you'll have to excuse the Penguins if they don't particularly feel like providing the foil for the happy ending everyone seems to want. They've earned every win and beaten some damn good teams to get where they are.
- Emperor Filonius

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhUNrpX8Rx4

Heres a few fallacies in the minds of Pittsburgh Penguins fans.

Speed - Pens fans think they are so much faster than the Sharks? Sharks are pretty fast skaters in their own right, but maybe Pens have some faster skaters. Fine. But that doesnt really mean much. The puck moves faster than anyone can skate. Sharks have far better defense than Pitt. That means the break outs and transition of the Sharks will be far faster and better. SO this perceived notion of speed that Pens have over the Sharks isnt real.

Depth - Also a false notion. Because you have watered down top lines you think that makes you better? haha. If anything you are making your top player more ineffective by not surrounding them with other tlalneted players. Id say having Malkin on the 'third line' basically makes him obsolete. See his mere 4 goals in the playoffs. Even Crosby's line looks questionable to me and will get dominated by Vlasic and the Couture line.

HBK - Pens fans are obsessed with this line that really is not that good. Within the first couple games i would epect that this line gets broken up.
- SJFreez19

Yeah, but how about that speed during the first period? Sharks couldnt touch the puck and only had 4 shots on goal.
Yeah, but how about that first goal from a watered down second line from Rust, huh?
Yeah, but how about that second goal from a watered down first line from Sheary, huh?
Yeah, but how about that HBK not that good game winning goal yesterday huh?

Loved your post, you managed to have all your analysis debunked in the very first game of the series. Keep those coming!

And my bet is settled. Donation made to http://www.hydroassoc.org/ in honor of the Sharks victory and Steve. Hope we get to make another wager next year.

Pittsburgh will make a smoke show of this series.

My 5 Reasons the Sharks will let down their fans again:

1. Hot to Cold, Sharks have been known to be a very streaky team this year. The wins have come in bunches, while surviving cold streaks to maintain the 3rd spot in the Pacific this year. Their luck is running thin.

2. Not good enough at home. The Sharks have turned around their home ice woes in the post-season, but can they keep it going against a high powered Pittsburgh offense?

3. Lack of leadership. The Sharks have veterans, but none of which have the Stanley Cup Final experience and success of certain players on the Pens roster. Pens have the leadership and secondary scoring to outpower the Sharks.

4. Goaltending inconsistency. Jones is hot, but has been as inconsistent as the Sharks record. Murray has been outstanding for the Pens, keeping Fleury on the bench. Jones will face a much different offense in this series than he has against LA, Trashville, or St. Louis.

5. The Sharks can't help but choke. History backs this one up, this year will be no different.


Pens in 5.

Not so fast my friends How is this working out for ya