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WingmanWillie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: A dog on the puck, just looking for a snizzbone
Joined: 04.17.2015

May 30 @ 9:12 AM ET
Oh for sure he is, no question.

The way I see it, Soshnikov plays a Babs type game. No matter what Lou says, they aren't going to have 7 rookies on the opening night roster, even if they all deserve it.

Matthews, Nylander, Marner and Zaitsev are locks for the opening night roster. And I think that both Hyman and Soshnikov are making it over Brown. At least to start the season.

- SameOld


Be a competitive camp, that's for sure
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 30 @ 9:14 AM ET
Oh for sure he is, no question.

The way I see it, Soshnikov plays a Babs type game. No matter what Lou says, they aren't going to have 7 rookies on the opening night roster, even if they all deserve it.

Matthews, Nylander, Marner and Zaitsev are locks for the opening night roster. And I think that both Hyman and Soshnikov are making it over Brown. At least to start the season.

- SameOld



Babcock said that brown was ready at training camp last year only reason he didn't stay was numbers game. With the one yr guys like boyes they didn't have room for brown. He's shown to be a better player than those two, so why would they make it over him? Hyman probably least likely out if that group.
pinksocked
Location: Bellevegas
Joined: 03.12.2016

May 30 @ 9:16 AM ET
also Nylander should stay on the wing
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 30 @ 9:26 AM ET
I have to creep on here as a Jets fan I only get a Jets thread once a week or so, outside perspective on Leafs goalie situation. I would be targeting a B+ prospect goalie around 20-22 on a team that has goalie prospect depth. This would be cheaper than going after a Gibson/Anderson, Murray/Fleury type. The re-build you guys are doing looks great but you have to remain patient!! 80% of top propects will not make a real impact ( outside of some beautifull flashes) in the NHL untill age 22-24 so kids like Marner, Nylander and others are a few years away from making a true diference. Why get a goalie now who's 25-28 and somewhat waste a few years? go after a guy like Jarry, Comrie, Subban as example. The Jets, Pitt and Boston all have multiple goalie prospects under 24. I would also 100% draft at least 2 goalies with all your picks this year
jimi james
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere Between, NB
Joined: 07.17.2010

May 30 @ 9:27 AM ET
I want Edmonton's 4th to pick Tkachuk.

Make it so.
SameOld
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.25.2010

May 30 @ 9:27 AM ET
Babcock said that brown was ready at training camp last year only reason he didn't stay was numbers game. With the one yr guys like boyes they didn't have room for brown. He's shown to be a better player than those two, so why would they make it over him? Hyman probably least likely out if that group.
- burn


Next year will be a numbers game as well. Like I said, I just don't see there will be 7 rookies on the opening night roster.

While Bab's may like Brown a lot, he LOVES Hyman and Soshnikov.

""(Zack) Hyman and (Nikita Soshnikov) are here to stay,” Maple Leafs coach Mike Babcock said in a scrum with local reporters after a 4-3 shootout win over the New York Islanders on Wednesday. “They’re real players. They’re going to play. They’re just too good, too hard, and too fast with too much work ethic so those guys will play.”"

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...n-soshnikov-real-players/
Smitty98
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.16.2012

May 30 @ 9:30 AM ET
So how the hell do we get Lupul to pull a Robidas this year?
pinksocked
Location: Bellevegas
Joined: 03.12.2016

May 30 @ 9:31 AM ET
Next year will be a numbers game as well. Like I said, I just don't see there will be 7 rookies on the opening night roster.

While Bab's may like Brown a lot, he LOVES Hyman and Soshnikov.

""(Zack) Hyman and (Nikita Soshnikov) are here to stay,” Maple Leafs coach Mike Babcock said in a scrum with local reporters after a 4-3 shootout win over the New York Islanders on Wednesday. “They’re real players. They’re going to play. They’re just too good, too hard, and too fast with too much work ethic so those guys will play.”"

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...n-soshnikov-real-players/

- SameOld



"Take Babcock's recent statements concerning Brown, Zach Hyman, William Nylander and Nikita Soshnikov:

"Willy could have easily been on the team from training camp, so could have Brownie [Connor Brown]. They could have been on the team right from the get-go and we chose not to do that for a number of reasons.

https://www.thestar.com/s...eals-the-leafs-plan-.html
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 30 @ 9:53 AM ET
Babcock said that brown was ready at training camp last year only reason he didn't stay was numbers game. With the one yr guys like boyes they didn't have room for brown. He's shown to be a better player than those two, so why would they make it over him? Hyman probably least likely out if that group.
- burn

Babs loves Sosh and Hyman...only they can play themselves off the leafs.
If Babs really wanted Brown on the leafs, he would have been on the leafs.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 30 @ 9:53 AM ET
I have to creep on here as a Jets fan I only get a Jets thread once a week or so, outside perspective on Leafs goalie situation. I would be targeting a B+ prospect goalie around 20-22 on a team that has goalie prospect depth. This would be cheaper than going after a Gibson/Anderson, Murray/Fleury type. The re-build you guys are doing looks great but you have to remain patient!! 80% of top propects will not make a real impact ( outside of some beautifull flashes) in the NHL untill age 22-24 so kids like Marner, Nylander and others are a few years away from making a true diference. Why get a goalie now who's 25-28 and somewhat waste a few years? go after a guy like Jarry, Comrie, Subban as example. The Jets, Pitt and Boston all have multiple goalie prospects under 24. I would also 100% draft at least 2 goalies with all your picks this year
- Ross77



None of those guys are really worth going after. Not any better than what we currently have
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 30 @ 9:54 AM ET
"Take Babcock's recent statements concerning Brown, Zach Hyman, William Nylander and Nikita Soshnikov:

"Willy could have easily been on the team from training camp, so could have Brownie

- pinksocked[Connor Brown]. They could have been on the team right from the get-go
and we chose not to do that for a number of reasons.

https://www.thestar.com/s...eals-the-leafs-plan-.html

We'll see how this training camp goes.
Maybe they all make it depending on trades.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 30 @ 9:54 AM ET
Next year will be a numbers game as well. Like I said, I just don't see there will be 7 rookies on the opening night roster.

While Bab's may like Brown a lot, he LOVES Hyman and Soshnikov.

""(Zack) Hyman and (Nikita Soshnikov) are here to stay,” Maple Leafs coach Mike Babcock said in a scrum with local reporters after a 4-3 shootout win over the New York Islanders on Wednesday. “They’re real players. They’re going to play. They’re just too good, too hard, and too fast with too much work ethic so those guys will play.”"

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...n-soshnikov-real-players/

- SameOld


Now go find the quote about brown
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 30 @ 9:57 AM ET
I have to creep on here as a Jets fan I only get a Jets thread once a week or so, outside perspective on Leafs goalie situation. I would be targeting a B+ prospect goalie around 20-22 on a team that has goalie prospect depth. This would be cheaper than going after a Gibson/Anderson, Murray/Fleury type. The re-build you guys are doing looks great but you have to remain patient!! 80% of top propects will not make a real impact ( outside of some beautifull flashes) in the NHL untill age 22-24 so kids like Marner, Nylander and others are a few years away from making a true diference. Why get a goalie now who's 25-28 and somewhat waste a few years? go after a guy like Jarry, Comrie, Subban as example. The Jets, Pitt and Boston all have multiple goalie prospects under 24. I would also 100% draft at least 2 goalies with all your picks this year
- Ross77


I would say draft one if they feel its the best pick..but dont go out of your way to make sure you take X amount of them. Assuming expansion does happen... there should be a few goalies on the market.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

May 30 @ 9:58 AM ET
So how the hell do we get Lupul to pull a Robidas this year?
- Smitty98



you don't need to ask...

the horse's head will be put in Lupul's bed....

after that he'll need a vacation on Robidas Island.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 30 @ 9:59 AM ET
I have to creep on here as a Jets fan I only get a Jets thread once a week or so, outside perspective on Leafs goalie situation. I would be targeting a B+ prospect goalie around 20-22 on a team that has goalie prospect depth. This would be cheaper than going after a Gibson/Anderson, Murray/Fleury type. The re-build you guys are doing looks great but you have to remain patient!! 80% of top propects will not make a real impact ( outside of some beautifull flashes) in the NHL untill age 22-24 so kids like Marner, Nylander and others are a few years away from making a true diference. Why get a goalie now who's 25-28 and somewhat waste a few years? go after a guy like Jarry, Comrie, Subban as example. The Jets, Pitt and Boston all have multiple goalie prospects under 24. I would also 100% draft at least 2 goalies with all your picks this year
- Ross77

We have bernier for the year, draft the best goalie available this year.
Assess what you have at the end of the next year and go from there.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

May 30 @ 10:06 AM ET
We have bernier for the year, draft the best goalie available this year.
Assess what you have at the end of the next year and go from there.

- Fakepartofme



I'd advocate the following:

Draft a goalie every year for next 2-3 years between rounds 3-5 and just hope one of them pans out. I don't know how successful drafting the best goalie available has turned out, but theres definitely been some busts/stagnating development recently, ie, Markstrom
sparky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 07.15.2006

May 30 @ 10:17 AM ET
I want Edmonton's 4th to pick Tkachuk.

Make it so.

- jimi james


I would LOVE to obtain tkachuk. Maybe the 5th over all gets him if Edmonton take a D man. (Which they should)

The cost would be high though.
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

May 30 @ 10:17 AM ET
That damn CHL rule... I thought for sure Marner was going back next year but he definitely made his case not to. He will have a damn good resume now but will still have to prove he can hang in the NHL or back he will go before game 10. (Is it 9 max? I forget)

I think we might see quite a few more 1 year deals this off-season and another bottom-ish finish.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 30 @ 10:31 AM ET
I want Edmonton's 4th to pick Tkachuk.

Make it so.

- jimi james

It will cost you.
Most likely a dman, prospects and picks.
I dont believe the leafs have the dman the oil need.
Venom.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.20.2015

May 30 @ 10:32 AM ET
How about we send Marner to Siberia?

By that I mean the KHL team Amur Khabarovsk.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 30 @ 10:32 AM ET
That damn CHL rule... I thought for sure Marner was going back next year but he definitely made his case not to. He will have a damn good resume now but will still have to prove he can hang in the NHL or back he will go before game 10. (Is it 9 max? I forget)

I think we might see quite a few more 1 year deals this off-season and another bottom-ish finish.

- markmark

Play him on the leafs.
Send him to the jrs.
I doubt we see too many one deals...our roster is pretty full right now, unless trades occur.
vermie22
Joined: 07.13.2011

May 30 @ 10:39 AM ET
I would LOVE to obtain tkachuk. Maybe the 5th over all gets him if Edmonton take a D man. (Which they should)

The cost would be high though.

- sparky


They interviewed chiarelli during the intermission of London's 2nd game of the MMC. He said the obvious about being open to trade options etc, and briefly talked about scouting eligible D, but then he went on to mention that the Knights had a really really good option that would be available at 4 as well, and his eyes kind of lit up.

It was obvious that he was impressed with what he saw out of tkachuk, and I can only imagine his stock rose with his performance over the last 2 games, all while playing with a high ankle sprain.

my guess is the oilers draft tkachuk.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

May 30 @ 10:39 AM ET
How so?
The sens have quality D, young talent, decent forwards....none of which the Leafs had in their darkest days.

- Fakepartofme



Meddling delusional owner.

Trading for Phaneuf.

Battling for 9th.

800 coaching changes.

No Hugh end elite prospects.

Yong talent thats pretty average.

Hardly any players at some of the bigger tournaments.

Perhaps I should have said Darker instead of Darkest?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 30 @ 10:39 AM ET
How about we send Marner to Siberia?

By that I mean the KHL team Amur Khabarovsk.

- Venom.


Khabarovsk

Very nice city, the people are very friendly

Birthplace of my son, and, coincidentally, Alexander Mogilny, one of my all time fave NHL players.
sparky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 07.15.2006

May 30 @ 10:44 AM ET
They interviewed chiarelli during the intermission of London's 2nd game of the MMC. He said the obvious about being open to trade options etc, and briefly talked about scouting eligible D, but then he went on to mention that the Knights had a really really good option that would be available at 4 as well, and his eyes kind of lit up.

It was obvious that he was impressed with what he saw out of tkachuk, and I can only imagine his stock rose with his performance over the last 2 games, all while playing with a high ankle sprain.

my guess is the oilers draft tkachuk.

- vermie22


You could be right. But he also could have been talking about Olli Juolevi.

I would offer Jake Gardner plus.. Don't know what it would take though.

Matthews between Marner and Tkatchuk would be sweet.
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