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Forums :: Blog World :: Erik Erlendsson: Is now the right time for Tampa Bay Lightning to trade Ben Bishop
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micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

May 28 @ 9:49 PM ET
Trading star goalies is tricky. Canuck fans know.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 28 @ 10:36 PM ET
Trading star goalies is tricky. Canuck fans know.
- micah555

BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

May 28 @ 11:02 PM ET
Wish the Blues had never traded Bishop. Should have traded Halak instead. Bishop and Elliot or Bishop and Allen would have been great, plus Bishop went to high school here locally.
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

May 28 @ 11:03 PM ET
Bishop for Nichushkin? Is he still on the DAL trading block? Can we figure out a way to ship off Matt Carle too? The last part is admittedly unlikely but I'd be happy with the former, given our looming cap issues
- ctcork

Fine by me as Blues seem to beat Bishop and DAL is a central rival
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

May 28 @ 11:09 PM ET
Yes they should trade Bishop and everyone else! Kucherov, Drouin, Stamkos, TyJo, Palat, Hedman ect I mean why not right? They are only young with a large contention window right now right?
Fryman4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.21.2014

May 28 @ 11:53 PM ET
Tampas primary focus should be having the money to keep Hedman. Identify your goalie (my preference would be vas) and deal the other. Stamkos would be nice to keep, bit of his ask is as high as it seems it will be, I'd move one. Keeping kitherov, Johnson and some of the other young contributors is more valuable than stammer at 10 mil a year
Fryman4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.21.2014

May 28 @ 11:54 PM ET
Tampas primary focus should be having the money to keep Hedman. Identify your goalie (my preference would be vas) and deal the other. Stamkos would be nice to keep, bit of his ask is as high as it seems it will be, I'd move on. Keeping kitherov, Johnson and some of the other young contributors is more valuable than stammer at 10 mil a year
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

May 29 @ 12:27 AM ET
Tampas primary focus should be having the money to keep Hedman. Identify your goalie (my preference would be vas) and deal the other. Stamkos would be nice to keep, bit of his ask is as high as it seems it will be, I'd move one. Keeping kitherov, Johnson and some of the other young contributors is more valuable than stammer at 10 mil a year
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

May 29 @ 1:25 AM ET
Bad deal for Tampa IMO.
- Oneonta Penguin

I'd do it. Adding Nichushkin, subtracting Filppula is worth it.
Top six would be:
Drouin Stamkos Nichushkin
Palat Johnson Kucherov

Moving both of those guys gives us room to keep Stamkos. I'd like that top six EVERYDAY of the week and twice on Sunday's.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 29 @ 8:17 AM ET
This is a tough one. I would not rule out at all making vasilevsky the goalie to trade. He may bring back more in a trade while being the worse of the two goalies
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 29 @ 9:07 AM ET
bishop to the blues i'd do tampa gets IVAN BARBASHEV and 2nd rounder and elliot. blues get bishop
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 29 @ 9:09 AM ET
or i'd do bishop and carle to blues for shatty and elliot
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 29 @ 9:19 AM ET
Can we figure out a way to ship off Matt Carle too? The last part is admittedly unlikely but I'd be happy with the former, given our looming cap issues
- ctcork


Carle and 27th-overall for RJ Umberger.

Tampa saves $1M on the cap next season, and Umberger comes off the books when Hedman goes UFA.

muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

May 29 @ 9:47 AM ET
He is one of the 5 best goalies in the league. That would be stupid.
- thundachunk

muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

May 29 @ 9:49 AM ET
bishop to the blues i'd do tampa gets IVAN BARBASHEV and 2nd rounder and elliot. blues get bishop
- todd1a



Bishop costs $6M, has one year left on his deal, and will turn 30 early next season. The goalie market is about to be flooded by teams not wanting to lose them for nothing in the expansion draft. TB, ANA, COL, STL, PIT, DET, and BOS all have a decision to make on their goalie situation.

DAL, CAL, VAN could use upgrades. It's not a seller's market.
FlamesNOTLames
Calgary Flames
Location: Strathmore, AB
Joined: 11.09.2014

May 29 @ 10:02 AM ET
Bishop for the 6th overall. It writes itself.
- TheCalSen

Bishop for 2 second rounders.....no more!!
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

May 29 @ 10:04 AM ET
Bishop for 2 second rounders.....no more!!
- FlamesNOTLames

You guys are getting MAF for 1 second
salumba
Calgary Flames
Location: Edinburg, TX
Joined: 03.08.2013

May 29 @ 10:04 AM ET


Bishop costs $6M, has one year left on his deal, and will turn 30 early next season. The goalie market is about to be flooded by teams not wanting to lose them for nothing in the expansion draft. TB, ANA, COL, STL, PIT, DET, and BOS all have a decision to make on their goalie situation.

DAL, CAL, VAN could use upgrades. It's not a seller's market.

- muffin_man


I think Detroit would be more than happy to protect Mrazek and lose Howard in the expansion draft... As for Boston, while Gustavsson is a serviceable backup, there's no real debate about who they protect.

All the other teams, for sure, though.
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

May 29 @ 10:07 AM ET
I think Detroit would be more than happy to protect Mrazek and lose Howard in the expansion draft... As for Boston, while Gustavsson is a serviceable backup, there's no real debate about who they protect.

All the other teams, for sure, though.

- salumba

Subban.

Det would LOVE anyone to take Howard for nothing. Just another name in the goalie market more so than an actual decision to make.

Heck, doesn't CHI have a good young guy too?
salumba
Calgary Flames
Location: Edinburg, TX
Joined: 03.08.2013

May 29 @ 10:11 AM ET
Subban.

Det would LOVE anyone to take Howard for nothing. Just another name in the goalie market more so than an actual decision to make.

Heck, doesn't CHI have a good young guy too?

- muffin_man


Has Subban played enough professionally? (I totally forgot about him).
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

May 29 @ 10:14 AM ET
Has Subban played enough professionally? (I totally forgot about him).
- salumba

drafted 2012. Not ready to start but if the Bruins rebuild/retool, I could see Chara and Rask getting dealt.
tpd11
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 29 @ 10:48 AM ET
If we could move Carle and Filp that gives us 33 mil to sign Stammer, Kuch, Hedman , Vladdy and Killorn 10, 6.5, 7.5, 2.5 and 4 .Hedmans extra 3.5 isn't for another year.
Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL
Joined: 08.14.2010

May 29 @ 10:49 AM ET
Perhaps Bishop gets traded a the June draft? Could make sense to get ahead of the rest of trade your second goalie teams.
Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL
Joined: 08.14.2010

May 29 @ 10:52 AM ET
If we could move Carle and Filp that gives us 33 mil to sign Stammer, Kuch, Hedman , Vladdy and Killorn 10, 6.5, 7.5, 2.5 and 4 .Hedmans extra 3.5 isn't for another year.
- tpd11


Might have to retain some salary to move them. Your numbers look good.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

May 29 @ 11:08 AM ET
Bishop to the Leafs for 7 draft picks
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