pdx2ord
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That seems to be the thing every team wants.
Did Bowman ever sign that 'tender out of Sweden as discussed a few weeks ago? It has been a few busy weeks for me (finals, graduation, and moving) and I haven't kept up with some of the moves, etc.
If Bowman did sign that 'tender, perhaps that may be a sign that Crawford is the odd man out? - EKB13
They did - 1 year deal: http://www.todaysslapshot...on-joins-blackhawks-deal/ |
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bogiedoc
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EKB13
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SimpleJack
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EKB13
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Anybody think of an expansion draft possibly saving the hawks cap wise? I'm not sure when the draft would be, but the hawks would only be able to protect a certain amount of players, maybe leaving out some bigger names with bigger salaries for the taking, would that relieve some cap? |
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Return of the Roar
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Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL Joined: 07.27.2009
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Anybody think of an expansion draft possibly saving the hawks cap wise? I'm not sure when the draft would be, but the hawks would only be able to protect a certain amount of players, maybe leaving out some bigger names with bigger salaries for the taking, would that relieve some cap? - cnfan261311
No. Anyone with an NMC, an ELC with less than two years of NHL time, and pending RFAs must be protected during the expansion draft. And earlier this week, the NHL announced there would be no requirement to expose any percentage of cap to the draft. |
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ikeane
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Location: Jacksonville, FL Joined: 11.04.2005
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I will add to the crazy proposals:
Kane and CC to Buf for Reinhart, Ristolainen, Lehner and their 1st and Anaheims 3rd this year. 10 mil cap saved if Ristolainen signs 2.5 mil contract.
Seabrook to Philly for Gudas, Sanheim, and 2nd. Roughly 4 mil saved if gudas takes 2 mil salary.
Hawks buy out Bickell. 3 mil saved
In FA the Hawks sign Okposo to 6 mil a year, Matt Martin for 2.5 and Goligoski for 6.25 a year. Hawks save about 2 mil roughly off their cap. Question becomes do they have room for Shaw with the extra 2 mil in cap savings? In this extremely unlikely scenario Reinhart would allow for an AA trade, defense would have added depth, and goaltending would be by committee.
I did preface by saying i was adding to the craziness!
Oh and forgot the ol Drouin for TT deal |
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That's a matter of opinion. Not one I agree with, but someone's opinion nonetheless.
So what's your "fix" for the cap crisis, Jack? Or are you just stopping in to gawk and criticize everyone's opinion you don't care for? - EKB13
A few year ago in a hockey trade I suggested Keith could fill all the holes in one trade. I thought that guy Unnamed Source's head was going to explode. Same thing when I posted that Q wasn't all that. I got blasted. Well, now it's a few years later and the Q stuff is no surprise to me. But trading Keith now doesn't save as much cap space as needed. But because he is such a good value perhaps a larger deal including 2 could help shed Bickle and whoever else they don't think has it and bring back some much needed younger talent along with some much needed cap space. Move Crawford as well and that's a lot of space. Interesting is an understatement about this off season. |
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No. Anyone with an NMC, an ELC with less than two years of NHL time, and pending RFAs must be protected during the expansion draft. And earlier this week, the NHL announced there would be no requirement to expose any percentage of cap to the draft. - Return of the Roar
Does that include modified/limited nmc? |
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z1990z
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Location: NW USA Joined: 02.09.2012
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A few year ago in a hockey trade I suggested Keith could fill all the holes in one trade. I thought that guy Unnamed Source's head was going to explode. Same thing when I posted that Q wasn't all that. I got blasted. Well, now it's a few years later and the Q stuff is no surprise to me. But trading Keith now doesn't save as much cap space as needed. But because he is such a good value perhaps a larger deal including 2 could help shed Bickle and whoever else they don't think has it and bring back some much needed younger talent along with some much needed cap space. Move Crawford as well and that's a lot of space. Interesting is an understatement about this off season. - 6628
That guy vanished off the board or was he banned?? Bottom line is the Hawks are in a giant mess with the current roster and very limited resources to fix it outside moving some decent salary. With the expansion draft next year, do the Hawks try to minimize moving a big player now in the hopes of a cap bump when the Vegas team comes on line? If they do that, they have a another possible Saad fiasco in trying to resign 72. Giant mess for Stan and Co..
If they have to move money, dont want to but my pick would be CC. Cant do anything to deplete the D group. |
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A few year ago in a hockey trade I suggested Keith could fill all the holes in one trade. I thought that guy Unnamed Source's head was going to explode. Same thing when I posted that Q wasn't all that. I got blasted. Well, now it's a few years later and the Q stuff is no surprise to me. But trading Keith now doesn't save as much cap space as needed. But because he is such a good value perhaps a larger deal including 2 could help shed Bickle and whoever else they don't think has it and bring back some much needed younger talent along with some much needed cap space. Move Crawford as well and that's a lot of space. Interesting is an understatement about this off season. - 6628
Good point on coupling Keith with a Bicks, but I would really hope the hawks would explore trading Seabrook and Crow before Keith. Quasi-generational talent doesn't come that cheap |
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I can't see the Hawks pulling off any major trades this off season. I think their only chance for a better run this year will be some solid rest from the core and get lucky with a couple cheap n I mean cheap FAs . Does anyone have any opinions on FAs or RFAs that most likely wont be resigned by their teams that you think the Hawks could/should take a chance on? Of coarse would have to be players they could get cheap n short term |
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SteveRain
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Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL Joined: 05.07.2010
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Trading Keith.... !!!!!! - SimpleJack
I doubt he gets traded.....but there isn't a lot of room and a large overage amount being carried over. Buying out bickell might offset that, but trying to sign Shaw means trading out another decent salaried player.
As you logically go through the high salaried list of guys, everyone has a good defense, or logical reasons why he will NOT be the guy, but the main thing is....somebody will go.
Then, next year could be the case again........what is very curious to me is does anyone know if Panarin STILL has the same carrots in front of him with the schedule A and schedule b bonsues? Because if so, that may push Bowman to rip up this year and extend him NOW so he doesn't get cracked with his bonsues like this year AND his AAV increase next year.
On a smart phone so god wiling that doesn't look like I wrote it in crayon . |
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Return of the Roar
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Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL Joined: 07.27.2009
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Does that include modified/limited nmc? - cnfan261311
NTCs are fair game, while NMCs are not.
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bhawks2241
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 09.17.2013
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I doubt he gets traded.....but there isn't a lot of room and a large overage amount being carried over. Buying out bickell might offset that, but trying to sign Shaw means trading out another decent salaried player.
As you logically go through the high salaried list of guys, everyone has a good defense, or logical reasons why he will NOT be the guy, but the main thing is....somebody will go.
Then, next year could be the case again........what is very curious to me is does anyone know if Panarin STILL has the same carrots in front of him with the schedule A and schedule b bonsues? Because if so, that may push Bowman to rip up this year and extend him NOW so he doesn't get cracked with his bonsues like this year AND his AAV increase next year.
On a smart phone so god wiling that doesn't look like I wrote it in crayon . - SteveRain
Don't see a Keith Bickell package. Keith > Seabrook. Move Seabrook buyout Bickell the caps savings are about the same as a Keith Bickell package trade. Bickell lowers Keith's value to the point the return is probably the same as what Seabrook fetches.
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phantasmo
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Location: IL Joined: 01.13.2016
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Good point on coupling Keith with a Bicks, but I would really hope the hawks would explore trading Seabrook and Crow before Keith. Quasi-generational talent doesn't come that cheap - cnfan261311
This is the part with Keith that just doesn't register: his value is so high that anything "good" that comes back is going to carry a hefty price tag.
I'll preface with the thought that this is highly unlikely: Everyone thinks AA is staying because of #72. What if AA AND 72 are traded for a physical #1LW, cheap faceoff centerman, and serviceable #4D? Throw Bickell to level out salaries....would you do it??? |
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bhawks2241
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 09.17.2013
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This is the part with Keith that just doesn't register: his value is so high that anything "good" that comes back is going to carry a hefty price tag.
I'll preface with the thought that this is highly unlikely: Everyone thinks AA is staying because of #72. What if AA AND 72 are traded for a physical #1LW, cheap faceoff centerman, and serviceable #4D? Throw Bickell to level out salaries....would you do it??? - phantasmo
A young physical #1LW yes. But then it is back to who the hell do we pair with Kane. |
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bhawks2241
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In NHL '16 if you trade Bergeron for Toews you pick up about 4 mil in cap space and your team really doesn't miss a beat!!!!!!! |
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SteveRain
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Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL Joined: 05.07.2010
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A few year ago in a hockey trade I suggested Keith could fill all the holes in one trade. I thought that guy Unnamed Source's head was going to explode. Same thing when I posted that Q wasn't all that. I got blasted. Well, now it's a few years later and the Q stuff is no surprise to me. But trading Keith now doesn't save as much cap space as needed. But because he is such a good value perhaps a larger deal including 2 could help shed Bickle and whoever else they don't think has it and bring back some much needed younger talent along with some much needed cap space. Move Crawford as well and that's a lot of space. Interesting is an understatement about this off season. - 6628
I remember that.....all opinions on here should be respected. There are ways to disagree in a civil manner.
I just hope San Jose wins.....There speed that they showed vs STL seems to be gone. Almost look timid at times and really need their big guns to get going.
Jones really comes out and challenges guys above his crease. Curious to see if Pittsburgh will adjust and hold on to the puck longer to try and thwart that. |
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SteveRain
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In NHL '16 if you trade Bergeron for Toews you pick up about 4 mil in cap space and your team really doesn't miss a beat!!!!!!! - bhawks2241
I'm old enough to know that nothing will ever top NHL'94........ |
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bhawks2241
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I'm old enough to know that nothing will ever top NHL'94........ - SteveRain
It is a beauty. I was 8 when it came out though haha. There was no hard cap in it that is for sure |
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EKB13
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I'm old enough to know that nothing will ever top NHL'94........ - SteveRain
Back when Sega Genesis was all the rage.
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Then, next year could be the case again........what is very curious to me is does anyone know if Panarin STILL has the same carrots in front of him with the schedule A and schedule b bonsues? Because if so, that may push Bowman to rip up this year and extend him NOW so he doesn't get cracked with his bonsues like this year AND his AAV increase next year. - SteveRain
The scenario you laid out is literally impossible under the current CBA. You cannot "rip up" / renegotiate a contract in the NHL. They can extend him as of July 1, 2016, but he will still play out the 2016-17 season under the terms of his ELC before his hypothetical new contract would kick in for 2017-18.
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mrpaulish
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I'm old enough to know that nothing will ever top NHL'94........ - SteveRain
Blue Ice !! |
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