A "shakeup" is coming. You will be surprised.

All I can say is there is a unified thought within the organization that going forward - the team is not "constituted properly".

And players like Hinostroza and Anthony Louis are not the answer......
- dahawks8819

Too bad the big money players are now in tail wag the dog mode. Hard to see consent coming from any of these NMC guys to leave. Even harder to see other contenders breaking their banks to take them either.

Seabs put up his best offensive numbers of his career, but is clearly not trusted by Q to match up against the top forwards of the opposition. It would not surprise me one bit if Seabs and his nearly $7mil are shipped to Western Canada. Calgary is a team on the rise that has some intriguing young players....
- EnzoD

I am not doubting any trade scenario since the cap will hardly increase. However, the least likely one, in my opinion, is losing #7. If 7 goes, who takes his place? If a trade, who comes back into the #2/3 D position? It's a big step back to lose Seabrook. Just looking for some insight that I may not see concretely.

Well a story by the Hockey Writers via BR said AA might be on the block so they can retain Shaw. Then they say 86 could step in #2 C???


- z1990z

i guess he shouldn't get to comfortable in that 3.5 mil lincoln park home he just bought

A "shakeup" is coming. You will be surprised.

All I can say is there is a unified thought within the organization that going forward - the team is not "constituted properly".

And players like Hinostroza and Anthony Louis are not the answer......
- dahawks8819

- DarthKane

This kind of "shake"??

This kind of "shake"??
- EnzoD

And while that's nice you have a list of "untouchables", the people who actually make the decisions on this roster going forward have a slightly different opinion.

Either by the draft, or maybe a week or two after, you will see what's being discussed.....
- dahawks8819

So are you saying that Keith is a possible trade candidate? You already said your source did not mention Kane or Toews as possibilities-- unless thats a smoke screen --
Those are the three Hawks that I would be shocked if they were traded--

7 -- just signed to a long term deal why would they trade him?
4 -- warrior signed to a cap friendly deal-- stupid if he is in play
81 -- coin flip-- but no one plays like him-- instant HOF
72 -- Great find -- but is he affordable?
50 -- to me he is in play--
86-- an enigma-- highly skilled great vision-- very versatile player-- soft as cotton


Obviously the smurfs like Hinostroza and Louis are not the answer-- so it begs the question why the hell did Bowman draft these undersized players and lose the type of players they will likely never be able to replace in Saad and Bufyeglin-- big skilled guys and in Saads case very fast--

if they trade Keith they will never replace what he brings-- same with Kane and Toews--

So are you saying that Keith is a possible trade candidate? You already said your source did not mention Kane or Toews as possibilities-- unless thats a smoke screen --
Those are the three Hawks that I would be shocked if they were traded--

7 -- just signed to a long term deal why would they trade him?
4 -- warrior signed to a cap friendly deal-- stupid if he is in play
81 -- coin flip-- but no one plays like him-- instant HOF
72 -- Great find -- but is he affordable?
50 -- to me he is in play--
86-- an enigma-- highly skilled great vision-- very versatile player-- soft as cotton


Obviously the smurfs like Hinostroza and Louis are not the answer-- so it begs the question why the hell did Bowman draft these undersized players and lose the type of players they will likely never be able to replace in Saad and Bufyeglin-- big skilled guys and in Saads case very fast--

if they trade Keith they will never replace what he brings-- same with Kane and Toews--
- jb3333

Bizarro world:
Panarin, crawford and bickell to Winnipeg
#2 and Jacob trouba rights to Chicago
Resign Shaw
Resign ladd

Bizarro world

Bizarro world:
Panarin, crawford and bickell to Winnipeg
#2 and Jacob trouba rights to Chicago
Resign Shaw
Resign ladd

Bizarro world
- hawkitect

Here is another wacky one:

Keith & Crawford to Edmonton -- Hawks get Draisaitle, Nurse, Hall + picks

Seabs put up his best offensive numbers of his career, but is clearly not trusted by Q to match up against the top forwards of the opposition. It would not surprise me one bit if Seabs and his nearly $7mil are shipped to Western Canada. Calgary is a team on the rise that has some intriguing young players....
- EnzoD

I also think Calgary is the team to watch trade wise. Like Shaw, need a goalie and depth on D. Lots of young prospects and the 6th pick.

So are you saying that Keith is a possible trade candidate? You already said your source did not mention Kane or Toews as possibilities-- unless thats a smoke screen --
Those are the three Hawks that I would be shocked if they were traded--

7 -- just signed to a long term deal why would they trade him?
4 -- warrior signed to a cap friendly deal-- stupid if he is in play
81 -- coin flip-- but no one plays like him-- instant HOF
72 -- Great find -- but is he affordable?
50 -- to me he is in play--
86-- an enigma-- highly skilled great vision-- very versatile player-- soft as cotton


Obviously the smurfs like Hinostroza and Louis are not the answer-- so it begs the question why the hell did Bowman draft these undersized players and lose the type of players they will likely never be able to replace in Saad and Bufyeglin-- big skilled guys and in Saads case very fast--

if they trade Keith they will never replace what he brings-- same with Kane and Toews--
- jb3333

Because with the Hawks success, they end up drafting at or near the end of each round - and the bigger, skilled players are off the board.

At that point, you draft the best player available - regardless of size.

Not a favorable draft position, but that's what long periods of success look like.

So are you saying that Keith is a possible trade candidate? You already said your source did not mention Kane or Toews as possibilities-- unless thats a smoke screen --
Those are the three Hawks that I would be shocked if they were traded--

7 -- just signed to a long term deal why would they trade him?
4 -- warrior signed to a cap friendly deal-- stupid if he is in play
81 -- coin flip-- but no one plays like him-- instant HOF
72 -- Great find -- but is he affordable?
50 -- to me he is in play--
86-- an enigma-- highly skilled great vision-- very versatile player-- soft as cotton


Obviously the smurfs like Hinostroza and Louis are not the answer-- so it begs the question why the hell did Bowman draft these undersized players and lose the type of players they will likely never be able to replace in Saad and Bufyeglin-- big skilled guys and in Saads case very fast--

if they trade Keith they will never replace what he brings-- same with Kane and Toews--
- jb3333

Hard to say who ends up going to solve this summer's cap crisis. I just hope Bowman handles that trade better than the last two summer trades to solve the cap problem.

Hard to say who ends up going to solve this summer's cap crisis. I just hope Bowman handles that trade better than the last two summer trades to solve the cap problem.
- EKB13

I think we agree that a trade has to happen right? Or is Stan hoping for a 74 million cap, a Bickell buyout and hoping to resign Shaw with what money he has? If we find a way to keep Shaw then my guess on the top 3 LW's are 72, 65 and 14. This is a HUGE summer for Stan and Co. Gotta hit it on every decision they make. Oh yeah and need healthy guys and some puck luck. The West and the Central Division is as tough as it gets.

I just hope the AA trade talk is BS. If anyone thinks 86 can step into the #2 C spot is fooling himself. They need to leave 86 at RW and let/hope his game rounds out. We need his skill. Oh and then there is that extension for 72 to work on..

Cant wait on that. All the signs point to having to make that big move this summer. Crap is getting old. Why cant we keeo this team together. Maybe Bettman likes that.

Hard to say who ends up going to solve this summer's cap crisis. I just hope Bowman handles that trade better than the last two summer trades to solve the cap problem.
- EKB13

It would be very hard for me to believe that #2 goes. What is he in cap commitment, $5.5M and change? For one of the top D in the league for a decade, that's incredible value.

IMO, hard to come up with any scenario where sending Keith out the door accomplishes two things: 1) cap reduction and 2) roster improvement.

I am not doubting any trade scenario since the cap will hardly increase. However, the least likely one, in my opinion, is losing #7. If 7 goes, who takes his place? If a trade, who comes back into the #2/3 D position? It's a big step back to lose Seabrook. Just looking for some insight that I may not see concretely.
- 93Joe

I'm with you 93Joe. Granted he is on the backside of his career, but what cost-controlled (at a reduced cost, mind you) return is going to come anywhere close to what #7 does for this team?

It would be very hard for me to believe that #2 goes. What is he in cap commitment, $5.5M and change? For one of the top D in the league for a decade, that's incredible value.

IMO, hard to come up with any scenario where sending Keith out the door accomplishes two things: 1) cap reduction and 2) roster improvement.
- phantasmo

Anyone can be traded but I don't see where that scenario exists either...not one that would help the team win now anyway.

Hard to say who ends up going to solve this summer's cap crisis. I just hope Bowman handles that trade better than the last two summer trades to solve the cap problem.
- EKB13

I'm actually looking forward to seeing what Stan does this summer. I have my list of untouchables. But realist all the only true untouchables are Toews, Kane and Keith. Although Hjalmarsson would be close behind.

I'm actually looking forward to seeing what Stan does this summer. I have my list of untouchables. But realist all the only true untouchables are Toews, Kane and Keith. Although Hjalmarsson would be close behind.
- DarthKane

I think you have to put Hossa on the list because of the recapture clauses his would trigger.

I don't think you want him having to decide whether or not to play for $1MM cash in some other city.

Prospective owner Bill Foley basically all but confirmed last year that the team will be called the Black Knights.
- BreakoutHockey

Black Knights, I can only think of Monty Python when I hear the Black Knight.

"It's just a flesh wound"

Here is another wacky one:

Keith & Crawford to Edmonton -- Hawks get Draisaitle, Nurse, Hall + picks
- jb3333

Oooooo...I don't think there's a chance in H-E-Double hockey sticks the Oilers would do this. But if it were on the table, I'd jump at it.

Because with the Hawks success, they end up drafting at or near the end of each round - and the bigger, skilled players are off the board.

At that point, you draft the best player available - regardless of size.

Not a favorable draft position, but that's what long periods of success look like.
- dahawks8819

I understand the talent pool is diminished later in the draft-- and I applaud the creativity that Bowman has utilized in acquiring talent from the various other sources to offset the poor draft position-- IMO Panarin is like getting a top 5 draft pick that DOES pan out-- huge win there--

IMO it seems odd that the organization suddenly is unhappy with the way the team is currently constituted as it relates to the CORE-- They have already and very recently invested heavily in that Core structure-- this year with significant contracts to Seabrook, Anisimov and Kruger-- now with Panarin due for a big raise-- To me the Hawks Core is still the best in the NHL even with a couple of aging players--

I realize that this is all conjecture coming from unidentified sources-- I'm certain the the Hawks organization would be unhappy with the early exit this year-- not only disappointing in the under achievement from the players perspective--who play to WIN-- but also from the business perspective that the huge revenue stream that was unrealized from a long run--

The wake up call should have happened last summer when they knew they had to trade a core member in Sharp and also lost Saad-- a future core member--

OR is the big shake up in the organization side which appears to be dysfunctional --

Black Knights, I can only think of Monty Python when I hear the Black Knight.

"It's just a flesh wound"
- stan-ley-cups

Tis but a flesh wound

I understand the talent pool is diminished later in the draft-- and I applaud the creativity that Bowman has utilized in acquiring talent from the various other sources to offset the poor draft position-- IMO Panarin is like getting a top 5 draft pick that DOES pan out-- huge win there--

IMO it seems odd that the organization suddenly is unhappy with the way the team is currently constituted as it relates to the CORE-- They have already and very recently invested heavily in that Core structure-- this year with significant contracts to Seabrook, Anisimov and Kruger-- now with Panarin due for a big raise-- To me the Hawks Core is still the best in the NHL even with a couple of aging players--

I realize that this is all conjecture coming from unidentified sources-- I'm certain the the Hawks organization would be unhappy with the early exit this year-- not only disappointing in the under achievement from the players perspective--who play to WIN-- but also from the business perspective that the huge revenue stream that was unrealized from a long run--

The wake up call should have happened last summer when they knew they had to trade a core member in Sharp and also lost Saad-- a future core member--

OR is the big shake up in the organization side which appears to be dysfunctional --
- jb3333

Launch Q?

Hard to say who ends up going to solve this summer's cap crisis. I just hope Bowman handles that trade better than the last two summer trades to solve the cap problem.
- EKB13

Exactly-- the Sharp trade debacle will sting for some time-- considering the mis- management of the return assets--

I still think Crawford is in play-- Hawks have gotten the most out of him to this point and with the concussion / vertigo issues-- as a goalie-- thats very tricky-- facing 20 + shots a night

Exactly-- the Sharp trade debacle will sting for some time-- considering the mis- management of the return assets--

I still think Crawford is in play
- jb3333

I agree I think Crow will go. Bummer but salary cap hell sucks. I'm sure Stan won't get equal value, but gotz to do what you gotz to do.