I just don't see where the money comes from to re-sign Shaw, we're still in cap hell.
- walleyeb1

You need to read what John posts here in the comments.

He said - something big that no one is expecting is the likely scenario for meeting the cap restrictions.

I too have heard a name that left my eyebrow raised (and no, it was not Toews or Kane) - and I was asked not to repeat it - as it may not happen. And the return is something off the radar - no one here has talked about it - or will see it coming.

You need to read what John posts here in the comments.

He said - something big that no one is expecting is the likely scenario for meeting the cap restrictions.

I too have heard a name that left my eyebrow raised (and no, it was not Toews or Kane) - and I was asked not to repeat it - as it may not happen. And the return is something off the radar - no one here has talked about it - or will see it coming.
- dahawks8819

To me the ONLY untouchables on this team are 19, 88, 2, closely followed by 7, 81, 4, 72, and then 50--

So could one of 7, 81, 4 72 or 50 be traded-- YES-- for the absolute right price-- to keep supporting the 3 elite generational talents the Hawk have in 19 - 88 - 2

I would hate to see any of them traded-- but if one of them was to be traded for elite level cost controlled talent--you have to consider it because of the cap and the window---

BUT I doubt that 7, 4 or 72 go anywhere-- 81 should be allowed to retire in Chicago-- and to me 50 is fully in play

To me the ONLY untouchables on this team are 19, 88, 2, closely followed by 7, 81, 4, 72, and then 50--

So could one of 7, 81, 4 72 or 50 be traded-- YES-- for the absolute right price-- to keep supporting the 3 elite generational talents the Hawk have in 19 - 88 - 2

I would hate to see any of them traded-- but if one of them was to be traded for elite level cost controlled talent--you have to consider it because of the cap and the window---

BUT I doubt that 7, 4 or 72 go anywhere-- 81 should be allowed to retire in Chicago-- and to me 50 is fully in play
- jb3333

Well a story by the Hockey Writers via BR said AA might be on the block so they can retain Shaw. Then they say 86 could step in #2 C???

Well a story by the Hockey Writers via BR said AA might be on the block so they can retain Shaw. Then they say 86 could step in #2 C???


- z1990z

Interesting thought...trade Anisimov and give his money to Shaw. Don't know if I would do that.

Interesting thought...trade Anisimov and give his money to Shaw. Don't know if I would do that.
- DarthKane

No way would I do that. I want to retain Shaw, but not at the expense of AA.

Well a story by the Hockey Writers via BR said AA might be on the block so they can retain Shaw. Then they say 86 could step in #2 C???


- z1990z

To me it seems counter productive to trade your 2C in Anisimov-- especially because there is currently no replacement -- especially not in 86-- Unless Teuvo miraculously returns from an off season regimen that builds his muscle and compete level-- which I highly doubt-- love his skill level, versatility and how he sees the ice as a playmaker-- but his lack of compete and will to play in the tough areas is a major flaw and concerning-- to his long term ability and value for this team--

Should be an interesting summer

To me it seems counter productive to trade your 2C in Anisimov-- especially because there is currently no replacement -- especially not in 86-- Unless Teuvo miraculously returns from an off season regimen that builds his muscle and compete level-- which I highly doubt-- love his skill level, versatility and how he sees the ice as a playmaker-- but his lack of compete and will to play in the tough areas is a major flaw and concerning-- to his long term ability and value for this team--

Should be an interesting summer
- jb3333

Since they can't pry Ship away from the KHL, the AA trade scenario seems unlikely. AA played great, just needs to improve his faceoffs. 86 is the one I'd keep my eye on this summer in terms of being on the block, or taking a big step and improving his game to remain with the team.

Since they can't pry Ship away from the KHL, the AA trade scenario seems unlikely. AA played great, just needs to improve his faceoffs. 86 is the one I'd keep my eye on this summer in terms of being on the block, or taking a big step and improving his game to remain with the team.
- 93Joe

Anisimov was fantastic until he got hurt, as long as he's healthy $4.55 million per season will be a very good deal.

Order of importance to the team with cap hits over $3mil, IMO.

2, 88 ,19, 4, 7, 72, 81, 50, 15, 65, 16


Shaw is very valuable, but I would try to trade Kruger or Crawford before moving Anisimov to extend 65.

Anisimov was fantastic until he got hurt, as long as he's healthy $4.55 million per season will be a very good deal.
- DarthKane

Exactly. The first 40 games he was absolutely amazing. I worry about his durability and his value is extremely high right now. The Hawks won 3 Cups with non-traditional top 6 centers. Sharp, Handzus and Richards would not have been 2C's on many other Playoff teams, yet Kane is able to carry a line single handedly. With the emergence of Panarin, I think a bottom six Center between those two would be fine. There are plenty of C's that are big and can grind along the boards and go to the net for less than 4.5 mil. You may sacrifice some skill that 15 brings, but these are the types of decisions that StanBo has to make this summer. Do you value what 15 brings to that line, which is a lot...or do you value the guy who can play C/W on lines 1-4 in Shawzy....??

EDIT: And that is not even mentioning the chemistry that Shaw brings to the locker room. Think of all the long-time Hawks that have been shipped off since 2015....the chemistry in the room clearly wasnt there this year, and losing Shawzy would further damage that. Anisimov seems like a nice guy, but he barely speaks English. Based on everything I have seen, Shawzy seems to be one of the most beloved guys in that locker room....

Exactly. The first 40 games he was absolutely amazing. I worry about his durability and his value is extremely high right now. The Hawks won 3 Cups with non-traditional top 6 centers. Sharp, Handzus and Richards would not have been 2C's on many other Playoff teams, yet Kane is able to carry a line single handedly. With the emergence of Panarin, I think a bottom six Center between those two would be fine. There are plenty of C's that are big and can grind along the boards and go to the net for less than 4.5 mil. You may sacrifice some skill that 15 brings, but these are the types of decisions that StanBo has to make this summer. Do you value what 15 brings to that line, which is a lot...or do you value the guy who can play C/W on lines 1-4 in Shawzy....??

EDIT: And that is not even mentioning the chemistry that Shaw brings to the locker room. Think of all the long-time Hawks that have been shipped off since 2015....the chemistry in the room clearly wasnt there this year, and losing Shawzy would further damage that. Anisimov seems like a nice guy, but he barely speaks English. Based on everything I have seen, Shawzy seems to be one of the most beloved guys in that locker room....
- EnzoD

Sure, Shaw brings a lot of heart & soul to the team. However, AA brings a lot more to the table and is even better in front of the net than Shaw because he is bigger, stronger and has a better shot. Furthermore, Panarin has a lot of respect for his countryman..trade AA AND I will guarantee you 72 will not sign his new contract. Not a very wise move indeed when you wind up loosing two of your top six players on the team regardless of the new player the Hawks will pick up.

No matter how much in love with some of these guys people are, someone significant is going to go. Simply no way to avoid it. So Anisimov is just as much a candidate as the next guy. I don't think he's irreplaceable either.

Sure, Shaw brings a lot of heart & soul to the team. However, AA brings a lot more to the table and is even better in front of the net than Shaw because he is bigger, stronger and has a better shot. Furthermore, Panarin has a lot of respect for his countryman..trade AA AND I will guarantee you 72 will not sign his new contract. Not a very wise move indeed when you wind up loosing two of your top six players on the team regardless of the new player the Hawks will pick up.
- spanky

The Panarin-Ansimov language connection is a very good point. Just spitballing here....I think the best option is to trade Crawford and buyout Bickell. There is NO WAY he can be moved for anything less than a TOP prospect, or he would have been traded already. Just remember, it cost StanBo our top D-prospect and essentially Oduya for Nill to take Sharp's $6mil. Patrick Sharp is a top 6 winger....Bryan Bickell is a top 30 winger

The Panarin-Ansimov language connection is a very good point. Just spitballing here....I think the best option is to trade Crawford and buyout Bickell. There is NO WAY he can be moved for anything less than a TOP prospect, or he would have been traded already. Just remember, it cost StanBo our top D-prospect and essentially Oduya for Nill to take Sharp's $6mil. Patrick Sharp is a top 6 winger....Bryan Bickell is a top 30 winger
- EnzoD

So how much return do you get for CC and his $6MM? Assuming he even agrees to waive. Which he won't.

Just don't see any team willingly taking on any big salaries, especially in exchange for high value lower salary players in a static cap era.

If the NHL cap remains unchanged, and the NHLPA agrees to the full 5% accelerator, the cap goes to $74.9MM. After adding Kempny, paying off Scuderi, Panarins bonus, and the Bickell buyout, the Hawks will have between $6.5 and $7MM to sign four forwards. Panik will be one of them, so say $5.5-6MM to sign three more.

Very doable, but no room for two top six players. Need to coach some guys up. And if the same story happens with the cap again, Panarin is doable for the following year.

So how much return do you get for CC and his $6MM? Assuming he even agrees to waive. Which he won't.

Just don't see any team willingly taking on any big salaries, especially in exchange for high value lower salary players in a static cap era.

If the NHL cap remains unchanged, and the NHLPA agrees to the full 5% accelerator, the cap goes to $74.9MM. After adding Kempny, paying off Scuderi, Panarins bonus, and the Bickell buyout, the Hawks will have between $6.5 and $7MM to sign four forwards. Panik will be one of them, so say $5.5-6MM to sign three more.

Very doable. And if the same story happens with the cap again, Panarin is doable for the following year.
- Return of the Roar

That's an opinion, not a fact. As for filling in 4 forwards all at league minimum, good luck with that. The Hawks are right back where they ended this season....1 scoring line, no top line LW, no legitimate 4D and zero offense from the bottom 2 lines. Banking on Kempny as an Oduya/Campbell level 4D is a fan's eternal optimism. I hope he can peforrm well, but I am not holding my breath (see Gustaffson, TVR, Svedberg, ect). You want to keep the status quo, but the status quo got the Hawks bounced in the first round this year. Expecting anything different with the entire core a year older is a recipe for another early playoff exit. Hossa will be 38 next year. Hawks need to win NOW, bc nobody can replace what 81 has done for this team.

So how much return do you get for CC and his $6MM? Assuming he even agrees to waive. Which he won't.

Just don't see any team willingly taking on any big salaries, especially in exchange for high value lower salary players in a static cap era.

If the NHL cap remains unchanged, and the NHLPA agrees to the full 5% accelerator, the cap goes to $74.9MM. After adding Kempny, paying off Scuderi, Panarins bonus, and the Bickell buyout, the Hawks will have between $6.5 and $7MM to sign four forwards. Panik will be one of them, so say $5.5-6MM to sign three more.

Very doable, but no room for two top six players. Need to coach some guys up. And if the same story happens with the cap again, Panarin is doable for the following year.
- Return of the Roar

If CC goes then a goalie comes back with salary. I could see a Bernier or the philly guy coming back Someone won't eat his entire 6 million.

That's an opinion, not a fact. As for filling in 4 forwards all at league minimum, good luck with that. The Hawks are right back where they ended this season....1 scoring line, no top line LW, no legitimate 4D and zero offense from the bottom 2 lines. Banking on Kempny as an Oduya/Campbell level 4D is a fan's eternal optimism. I hope he can peforrm well, but I am not holding my breath (see Gustaffson, TVR, Svedberg, ect). You want to keep the status quo, but the status quo got the Hawks bounced in the first round this year. Expecting anything different with the entire core a year older is a recipe for another early playoff exit. Hossa will be 38 next year. Hawks need to win NOW, bc nobody can replace what 81 has done for this team.
- EnzoD

A "shakeup" is coming. You will be surprised.

All I can say is there is a unified thought within the organization that going forward - the team is not "constituted properly".

And players like Hinostroza and Anthony Louis are not the answer......

Anisimov was fantastic until he got hurt, as long as he's healthy $4.55 million per season will be a very good deal.
- DarthKane

Let's hope for his sake he had some reassurance that he wasn't going anywhere before he did this:

http://chicago.curbed.com...buys-lincoln-park-mansion

To me the ONLY untouchables on this team are 19, 88, 2, closely followed by 7, 81, 4, 72, and then 50--

So could one of 7, 81, 4 72 or 50 be traded-- YES-- for the absolute right price-- to keep supporting the 3 elite generational talents the Hawk have in 19 - 88 - 2

I would hate to see any of them traded-- but if one of them was to be traded for elite level cost controlled talent--you have to consider it because of the cap and the window---

BUT I doubt that 7, 4 or 72 go anywhere-- 81 should be allowed to retire in Chicago-- and to me 50 is fully in play
- jb3333

And while that's nice you have a list of "untouchables", the people who actually make the decisions on this roster going forward have a slightly different opinion.

Either by the draft, or maybe a week or two after, you will see what's being discussed.....

That's an opinion, not a fact. As for filling in 4 forwards all at league minimum, good luck with that. The Hawks are right back where they ended this season....1 scoring line, no top line LW, no legitimate 4D and zero offense from the bottom 2 lines. Banking on Kempny as an Oduya/Campbell level 4D is a fan's eternal optimism. I hope he can peforrm well, but I am not holding my breath (see Gustaffson, TVR, Svedberg, ect). You want to keep the status quo, but the status quo got the Hawks bounced in the first round this year. Expecting anything different with the entire core a year older is a recipe for another early playoff exit. Hossa will be 38 next year. Hawks need to win NOW, bc nobody can replace what 81 has done for this team.
- EnzoD

We are at the shell game stage now.

Not only is there no cap room, but none of the big cap hits will fill the voids in the lineup without trading one hole for another. Trade CC you get Mason, Pavelec or Anderson. No thanks. In the first month without CC they will call for Bowman's head. Trade Keith or Seabrook or Hammer and your already weakened D gets worse. Trade Hossa and you give his cap recapture to another team to manage, as well as his still strong two way game.

Most importantly, any deal for the NMC crowd of players will inevitably send salary back.

A "shakeup" is coming. You will be surprised.

All I can say is there is a unified thought within the organization that going forward - the team is not "constituted properly".

And players like Hinostroza and Anthony Louis are not the answer......
- dahawks8819

Seabs put up his best offensive numbers of his career, but is clearly not trusted by Q to match up against the top forwards of the opposition. It would not surprise me one bit if Seabs and his nearly $7mil are shipped to Western Canada. Calgary is a team on the rise that has some intriguing young players....

We are at the shell game stage now.

Not only is there no cap room, but none of the big cap hits will fill the voids in the lineup without trading one hole for another. Trade CC you get Mason, Pavelec or Anderson. No thanks. In the first month without CC they will call for Bowman's head. Trade Keith or Seabrook or Hammer and your already weakened D gets worse. Trade Hossa and you give his cap recapture to another team to manage, as well as his still strong two way game.

Most importantly, any deal for the NMC crowd of players will inevitably send salary back.
- Return of the Roar

Stuck between a rock and a hard place....should be interesting.

Let's hope for his sake he had some reassurance that he wasn't going anywhere before he did this:

http://chicago.curbed.com...buys-lincoln-park-mansion
- pdx2ord

The rooftop terrace with that view....

A "shakeup" is coming. You will be surprised.

All I can say is there is a unified thought within the organization that going forward - the team is not "constituted properly".

And players like Hinostroza and Anthony Louis are not the answer......
- dahawks8819

I agree with team make up part. The only way to shake it up would be to trade a big name player. This summer is critical. If the team can't make the needed moves to make the team more complete then I don't know. The Saad loss is huge. To lose Saad then Sharp was too much. Hard to replace big time skilled guys like that.

Guess we will find out how good a HC Q really is. I don't see a big addition without a bigger trade. It might be going to war with a very mixed bag and no legit #1 LW unless u roll 72 to the Toews line and try 14 with AA and Kane.

I agree with team make up part. The only way to shake it up would be to trade a big name player. This summer is critical. If the team can't make the needed moves to make the team more complete then I don't know. The Saad loss is huge. To lose Saad then Sharp was too much. Hard to replace big time skilled guys like that.

Guess we will find out how good a HC Q really is. I don't see a big addition without a bigger trade. It might be going to war with a very mixed bag and no legit #1 LW unless u roll 72 to the Toews line and try 14 with AA and Kane.
- z1990z

Sharp the Hawks can live without, Saad is a 200ft beast that hasnt even reached his ceiling. I miss him nearly as much as I miss Big Buff. The NHL could build 3/4 of the new Vegas team with all the Salary Cap Casualties for the Hawks since 2010.