These commentators are hilarious..... Kessel and an underwhelming regular season with just 26 goals, let's take Brandon Dubinsky and his 17 goals instead.

Edit : or Callahan and his 10 goals.

All of this
- Zezel

Plus, those who think Zaitsev is too much of a ? Haven't been watching very closely.

Only 2 Leafs Dmen made world cup teams, hes one of them, and hasn't even played a game yet. Clearly the hockey people making the decisions think hes pretty good

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if he paired with Rielly this season.

The real debate should be about who is going to cover for play with Gardiner

These commentators are hilarious..... Kessel and an underwhelming regular season with just 26 goals, let's take Brandon Dubinsky and his 17 goals instead.
- burn

Commentators? Is there a game on right now?

Spent how long talking about strength down the middle, we start to get that and people want to ruin it.



- burn

exactly... and quite frankly they're getting ahead of themselves. Yes the prospects look good... but if people are thinking there still aren't question marks around Nylander and Matthews ... they're nuts. Neither has played sufficient games of professional hockey to be considered a "certainty"... not yet.

look at Tampa with Drouin - it would be fair to say a lot of people wrote him off by midseason this year.... words like bust, not ready... blah blah blah.

he looked liked their best forward in the last game again Pittsburgh... long story short lots of upside BUT not ready for prime time responsibility... what makes you think either Nylander or Matthews will be anything different at this point.

plus they just signed Kadri to a cap favourable deal... the only logical choice - is to play Bozak as much as possible to shelter the kids and at least let him develop or maintain some trade value- and until Stamkos situation is clarified... not point throwing him away either ... unless its for a clear D upgrade.

if we have learned anything in the past 15 months... the Leafs now know how to draft, they appear to be knowing what to do with development - give them a chance to clear the rest of the leftovers from the failed core "THAT MANAGEMENT CONSIDERS WEAK" and wait patiently for them to do so.

patiently in all aspect - except getting rid of Bernier.

Plus, those who think Zaitsev is too much of a ? Haven't been watching very closely.

Only 2 Leafs Dmen made world cup teams, hes one of them, and hasn't even played a game yet. Clearly the hockey people making the decisions think hes pretty good

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if he paired with Rielly this season.

The real debate should be about who is going to cover for play with Gardiner
- WingmanWillie

Yeah, Zaitsev seems ready to play. Great free add if he makes the transition.

exactly... and quite frankly they're getting ahead of themselves. Yes the prospects look good... but if people are thinking there still aren't question marks around Nylander and Matthews ... they're nuts. Neither has played sufficient games of professional hockey to be considered a "certainty"... not yet.

look at Tampa with Drouin - it would be fair to say a lot of people wrote him off by midseason this year.... words like bust, not ready... blah blah blah.

he looked liked their best forward in the last game again Pittsburgh... long story short lots of upside BUT not ready for prime time responsibility... what makes you think either Nylander or Matthews will be anything different at this point.

plus they just signed Kadri to a cap favourable deal... the only logical choice - is to play Bozak as much as possible to shelter the kids and at least let him develop or maintain some trade value- and until Stamkos situation is clarified... not point throwing him away either ... unless its for a clear D upgrade.

if we have learned anything in the past 15 months... the Leafs now know how to draft, they appear to be knowing what to do with development - give them a chance to clear the rest of the leftovers from the failed core "THAT MANAGEMENT CONSIDERS WEAK" and wait patiently for them to do so.

patiently in all aspect - except getting rid of Bernier.
- BorjeFan4Ever

Yes exactly.

Having Stamkos, Bozak and Kadri this year would allow Babcock to do exactly what he wanted, which was to start Nylander on the wing. Hell he may do that with Matthews as well.

Develop them at the NHL level on the wing and shift them to the middle when they are ready.

Plus, those who think Zaitsev is too much of a ? Haven't been watching very closely.

Only 2 Leafs Dmen made world cup teams, hes one of them, and hasn't even played a game yet. Clearly the hockey people making the decisions think hes pretty good

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if he paired with Rielly this season.

The real debate should be about who is going to cover for play with Gardiner
- WingmanWillie

Roman Polak or

whomever Winnipeg decides to play Gardiner with... after the Leafs deal Gardiner + 3rd to Jets for Trouba.

exactly... and quite frankly they're getting ahead of themselves. Yes the prospects look good... but if people are thinking there still aren't question marks around Nylander and Matthews ... they're nuts. Neither has played sufficient games of professional hockey to be considered a "certainty"... not yet.

look at Tampa with Drouin - it would be fair to say a lot of people wrote him off by midseason this year.... words like bust, not ready... blah blah blah.

he looked liked their best forward in the last game again Pittsburgh... long story short lots of upside BUT not ready for prime time responsibility... what makes you think either Nylander or Matthews will be anything different at this point.

plus they just signed Kadri to a cap favourable deal... the only logical choice - is to play Bozak as much as possible to shelter the kids and at least let him develop or maintain some trade value- and until Stamkos situation is clarified... not point throwing him away either ... unless its for a clear D upgrade.

if we have learned anything in the past 15 months... the Leafs now know how to draft, they appear to be knowing what to do with development - give them a chance to clear the rest of the leftovers from the failed core "THAT MANAGEMENT CONSIDERS WEAK" and wait patiently for them to do so.

patiently in all aspect - except getting rid of Bernier.
- BorjeFan4Ever

Agree with all this, they need to double down on patience now and let these prospects develop. I don't want to see any more trading of young guys like Steen, etc. And I'm positive they aren't going to do that.

Commentators? Is there a game on right now?
- WingmanWillie

Watching sportsnet, kyper and crew talking about WC rosters.

kypreos. Saying that the Americans were worried about a guy that has long been rumoured to not been in best shape to not be ready to play in the tourney


- burn

Isn't Kessel currently in the conversation for MVP in the hardest tournament in the world, or did I just dream that?

These commentators are hilarious..... Kessel and an underwhelming regular season with just 26 goals, let's take Brandon Dubinsky and his 17 goals instead.

Edit : or Callahan and his 10 goals.
- burn

Or (frank)ing Abdelkader, whose season high in points is less than (frank)ing Bozak

Agree with all this, they need to double down on patience now and let these prospects develop. I don't want to see any more trading of young guys like Steen, etc. And I'm positive they aren't going to do that.
- Zezel

exactly. The Steen + CarloC to the Blues for Stempniak was just plain dumb on a few fronts.

Or (frank)ing Abdelkader, whose season high in points is less than (frank)ing Bozak
- lumlums

ya..... but Bozak sucks because "Leafs" and Abdelkader is AWESOME because "Wings"

How in the flying (frank) is Kessel left off team usa?

They are just terrible at picking players.

Edit: not sure if this has been discussed yet. I just woke up and very hungover

What's the craziest thing about the Leafs right now is all thedifferent players to focus on.

I can remember dark days when Schenn and Kadri were the only hope all we could talk about.

Then Rielly came and became the golden boy. But shortly after that, Nylander was the big talking point. Then everyone kind of looked away to focus on Marner. Now, despite Marners mem cup heroics, everyone is looking at Matthews. If the sign Stamkos, that will distract even further.

Then you have the dark horse prospects like Brown, Sosh, Zaitsev who are getting by with almost no notice at all.

Kind of a crazy time to be a Leaf fan right now. A long way from considering Luke Schenn to be a cornerstone

How in the flying (frank) is Kessel left off team usa?

They are just terrible at picking players.

Edit: not sure if this has been discussed yet. I just woke up and very hungover
- bryant

Torts wants his boys. Idiots

What's the craziest thing about the Leafs right now is all thedifferent players to focus on.

I can remember dark days when Schenn and Kadri were the only hope all we could talk about.

Then Rielly came and became the golden boy. But shortly after that, Nylander was the big talking point. Then everyone kind of looked away to focus on Marner. Now, despite Marners mem cup heroics, everyone is looking at Matthews. If the sign Stamkos, that will distract even further.

Then you have the dark horse prospects like Brown, Sosh, Zaitsev who are getting by with almost no notice at all.

Kind of a crazy time to be a Leaf fan right now. A long way from considering Luke Schenn to be a cornerstone
- WingmanWillie

Yeah man, the difference is unbelievable. There's never been more reasons to be intrigued and optimistic as a Leafs fan. It's beyond any expectation.

And don't forget Babcock, Lou, Hunter etc....the turns for the better have been unbelievable so far.

Isn't Kessel currently in the conversation for MVP in the hardest tournament in the world, or did I just dream that?
- Zezel

HEs fat and out of shape.


- kypreos

What's the craziest thing about the Leafs right now is all thedifferent players to focus on.

I can remember dark days when Schenn and Kadri were the only hope all we could talk about.

Then Rielly came and became the golden boy. But shortly after that, Nylander was the big talking point. Then everyone kind of looked away to focus on Marner. Now, despite Marners mem cup heroics, everyone is looking at Matthews. If the sign Stamkos, that will distract even further.

Then you have the dark horse prospects like Brown, Sosh, Zaitsev who are getting by with almost no notice at all.

Kind of a crazy time to be a Leaf fan right now. A long way from considering Luke Schenn to be a cornerstone
- WingmanWillie

Torts wants his boys. Idiots

- WingmanWillie

Is ridiculous. He took crappy guys he's had before like Callahan and Dubinsky because he knows them. So absurd. Can't wait for them to get trounced and the complaining that the team sucked and couldn't score.


Gee, I wonder why a team filled with 3rd liners who score in the teens can't score goals against the worlds best. I wonder why.

HEs fat and out of shape.


- kypreos
- burn

I always thought it was funny, the guy can skate circles around a lot of other NHL players, yet he's out of shape. What would he supposedly do if he was in shape, skate faster than any human ever?

Price is the only player on team Canada playing for a Canadian team. Fun fact of the day.

These commentators are hilarious..... Kessel and an underwhelming regular season with just 26 goals, let's take Brandon Dubinsky and his 17 goals instead.

Edit : or Callahan and his 10 goals.
- burn

Reminds me of the world junior team who left out Connor Brown.

Said they were trying to build a team over just picking the best players. We all know how that tourny played out

kypreos. Saying that the Americans were worried about a guy that has long been rumoured to not been in best shape to not be ready to play in the tourney


- burn

So they went with super in-shape but absolute poop player Johnson? Nice

Disagree. Bozak isn't a good 3c. Any lineup with bozak in and kadri out is inferior. Best lineup is with kadri in and use his cap space on ufa dman.
- burn

For sure if there's a UFA we can plug in the top 4?

Doesn't have to be Bozak, could be Holland if we did make a trade

( geez, this sounds like about 12 hours ago )

It's all hypothetical and just for fun talk anyways