Good on USA for not selecting Kessel. They realize he is nothing but a lazy, heartless, hot dog eating phony.

You guys are crazy wanting to trade JVR. Big, skilled skating winger on a great cap hit, that's (frank)ing crazy man.

Good on USA for not selecting Kessel. They realize he is nothing but a lazy, heartless, hot dog eating phony.
- domi_legend

That's (frank)ing crazy man

JVR Bozak and Bernier have to be gone for the fresh start, all of them were just as big of a problem as Kessel was.
- the_eye

IMO Kessel was by far the biggest problem.

Followed by Bernier.

But yes, JVR and Bozak were also part of that team that mailed it in.

Go Team North America!

Is this a Malkin (Matthews) versus Ovechkin (Laine) draft? Is he Crosby or Tavares? Seguin (Matthews) or Hall (Laine)?

Honest questions. But based on what these picks have done What is the expectation? Top 3 point producer or a Toews who wills his team's to victory?

IMO Kessel was by far the biggest problem.

Followed by Bernier.

But yes, JVR and Bozak were also part of that team that mailed it in.
- domi_legend

Posts like this are what make me keep coming back.

Leafs are a better teams with Stamkos, Matthews and Bozak as top 3 and Trouba paired with Rielly as top 2 than Stamkos, Matthews and Kadri as top 3 and Rielly with no one to play with him.
- Cooshie

You talk like Trouba is the poop... hes not...

And lets all just keep ignoring Zaitsev... probably one of if not the best defenceman in the WHC but yeah, poor (frank)ing Rielly need Trouba.. so (frank)ing dumb.

Is this a Malkin (Matthews) versus Ovechkin (Laine) draft? Is he Crosby or Tavares? Seguin (Matthews) or Hall (Laine)?

Honest questions. But based on what these picks have done What is the expectation? Top 3 point producer or a Toews who wills his team's to victory?
- therealagent

Somewhere between Horvat and Gretzky.

You talk like Trouba is the poop... hes not...

And lets all just keep ignoring Zaitsev... probably one of if not the best defenceman in the WHC but yeah, poor (frank)ing Rielly need Trouba.. so (frank)ing dumb.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

your crush on Kadri is approaching creepiness.

Also, we really have no idea what Zaitsev is going to be for us.

Is this a Malkin (Matthews) versus Ovechkin (Laine) draft? Is he Crosby or Tavares? Seguin (Matthews) or Hall (Laine)?

Honest questions. But based on what these picks have done What is the expectation? Top 3 point producer or a Toews who wills his team's to victory?
- therealagent

Everything I've read or heard from analysts seems to suggest Matthews is a cut above Laine, even though Laine is also really good. More of a complete game. Even if it were closer, the fact that he plays centre would be key, because obviously the Leafs need a star centre.

You may be right about Peg not trading Trouba for Kadri...

As for being better with better players, well, no poop Sherlock!! LOL
However, we aren't talking about giving Kadri away, we are talking about trading a good player for another good player.
Bozak is fine as a 3C, but they need someone to play with Rielly more than they need Kadri to play 3C (over Bozak playing 3C).

I would prefer Larsson - guy woke up and decided to use that big body of his......he is going to be a beast if he keeps up the physical part of the game he showed last year.
- Cooshie

Disagree. Bozak isn't a good 3c. Any lineup with bozak in and kadri out is inferior. Best lineup is with kadri in and use his cap space on ufa dman.

Disagree - Matthews will be our 2nd best center if they sign Stamkos. Kadri is a waste as our 3rd line center.
And to say that a better than average center is worth more than a better than average dman is just way too vague and completely untrue.
- Cooshie

Having 3 good centres better than having 2. People keep saying if we get Matthews and sign stamkos we need to move a centre ( position of strength), but fail to realize that trading away kadri mean they go from position of strength with too many c to having only 2 c.


Keep your good players are rid yourself of the crap. That's how you improve.

Bozak at 3c is fine...but without a proper defense, you aren't getting to the playoffs, nevermind stanley cup.
- Cooshie

I think our management is smart enough to realize this isn't true.

Having 3 good centres better than having 2. People keep saying if we get Matthews and sign stamkos we need to move a centre ( position of strength), but fail to realize that trading away kadri mean they go from position of strength with too many c to having only 2 c.


Keep your good players are rid yourself of the crap. That's how you improve.
- burn

Agreed, and Kadri is on a reasonable deal for a while now. Ideally, the Leafs will have three top six players (Matthews, Nylander, Marner) during their cheap years so it's not like Kadri's cap hit as the 3C will be a problem.

Good on USA for not selecting Kessel. They realize he is nothing but a lazy, heartless, hot dog eating phony.
- domi_legend

Screw the guy that was top of scoring for last olympics, I'm sure the Americans won't miss him one bit. Screw the guy who's near the top of this years con smyth consideration

Agreed, and Kadri is on a reasonable deal for a while now. Ideally, the Leafs will have three top six players (Matthews, Nylander, Marner) during their cheap years so it's not like Kadri's cap hit as the 3C will be a problem.
- Zezel

I just don't get why people are willing to part with better players because we have weaker ones (at the same price) that can take their spot. Why are people so adamant on trading kadri "because he'll bring back better retun"? Are people forgetting we can reinvest bozak money into a dman if need be?

IMO leafs better (by a lot) with kadri in and bozak$ invested in a dman Vs bozak in and new dman from kadri. Like not even close.

I just don't get why people are willing to part with better players because we have weaker ones (at the same price) that can take their spot. Why are people so adamant on trading kadri "because he'll bring back better retun"? Are people forgetting we can reinvest bozak money into a dman if need be?

IMO leafs better (by a lot) with kadri in and bozak$ invested in a dman Vs bozak in and new dman from kadri. Like not even close.
- burn

Yeah I don't get it.

Yeah I don't get it.
- Zezel

I cannot see them investing all that money into stamkos and then going garage sale'ing later on. If they are signing stamkos they are trying to be competitive, if that is the case then havi gbozak as 3c goes against that.

I cannot see them investing all that money into stamkos and then going garage sale'ing later on. If they are signing stamkos they are trying to be competitive, if that is the case then havi gbozak as 3c goes against that.
- burn

Yeah and like we were discussing yesterday it's pretty clear they like Kadri. And it's not like they are super-ultra-ultimate stacked at C. It sure has improved with Matthews (presumably), but he'll be a rookie. We can't start sucking each other's Richards just yet.

Yeah and like we were discussing yesterday it's pretty clear they like Kadri. And it's not like they are super-ultra-ultimate stacked at C. It sure has improved with Matthews (presumably), but he'll be a rookie. We can't start sucking each other's Richards just yet.
- Zezel

Spent how long talking about strength down the middle, we start to get that and people want to ruin it.

A trade like Kadri for Dman is the type of deal that a team makes when they are further ahead than the Leafs.

Take the preds for example, the positions were reversed, but they didn't trade for a #1C (equivalent of a #1Dman) from their position of strength until they were a consistent playoff team

Ride this year out with what we have on D.

Still say the number one priority is goaltending

Spent how long talking about strength down the middle, we start to get that and people want to ruin it.



- burn

Yeah it's not like we're the Hawks and need to start moving guys because of a post-Cup cap crunch.

A trade like Kadri for Dman is the type of deal that a team makes when they are further ahead than the Leafs.

Take the preds for example, the positions were reversed, but they didn't trade for a #1C (equivalent of a #1Dman) from their position of strength until they were a consistent playoff team

Ride this year out with what we have on D.

Still say the number one priority is goaltending
- WingmanWillie

All of this

kypreos. Saying that the Americans were worried about a guy that has long been rumoured to not been in best shape to not be ready to play in the tourney