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IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

May 27 @ 1:01 PM ET
There's no denying that Buffalo likely doesn't have a ton of high-end endorsement opportunities, but NYC does, all Canadian markets claim to, yet there are no Leafs or Canadiens on this list (from 2014)

http://sportschatplace.co...ement-earnings-in-the-nhl

- stashu

he could be the new face of flutie flakes
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 27 @ 1:01 PM ET

- Der Kaiser

Vanilla Ice
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 27 @ 1:02 PM ET
There's no denying that Buffalo likely doesn't have a ton of high-end endorsement opportunities, but NYC does, all Canadian markets claim to, yet there are no Leafs or Canadiens on this list (from 2014)

http://sportschatplace.co...ement-earnings-in-the-nhl

- stashu



What that tells you more than anything else is that NHL players' endorsement deals play relatively small role in their overall income (in comparison to their NHL salaries), and that the brands they endorse are far more national than they are regional or local.

Said differently, an NHLer is going to get his endorsement deals wherever he plays, and it won't be nearly as important as salary, anyway, so the tail won't wag the dog in deciding what franchise is offering the best opportunity.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 27 @ 1:02 PM ET
Yeah, here's what I think. While it's unlikely any of us has a clue about what's inside Murray's head, and things like the salary cap, NTCs/NMCs, and the declining economy's impact on future revenues make it nearly impossible to trade anyone of any significance, it's not inconceivable that the Sabres could make a mid-season move.
Ror, Eichel, Reinhart, Risto are probably not on the block since they represent the young core of this team and are all locked up long-term. We all know Moulson's contract is insane, but given the length and amount of the others, it seems unlikely to me there's a better deal out there. Remember Russ Brandon is a numbers guy, and 5 mil 3 years from now will be looking pretty good. Kane's deal is an especially favorable one for the club. You might even be able to throw Foligno into this category b/c his value to the Sabres is high given his hustle and toughness.

Franson is a popular choices for a change of venue, but his UFA status would mean they'd need to go to a contender for the receiving team to be willing to assume the risk. That said, what's the likelihood of a contender sending the Sabres something worthy of a blockbuster? That's not even taking into account Girgens sucking last year, Pysyk getting a reputation of being lazy, and Lehner being more fragile than the leg lamp in A Christmas Story. This, coming from the guy who actually owns a Lehner jersey.

As far as young talent at forward goes, Fasching, Bailey and Nelson are the only roster players in that category. They're all tradable, but not enough to bring in an impact player. To me, the Sabres would need to include one of Ullmark, Carrier or Guhle to get another team interested. Possible, though McCabe seems like he's got a future here.

Lastly, if they're really trying to fix the recent injury problem at defense, they're not going to trade any defensemen. Even still, it's more likely they'll do what they did last year and bring in a veteran like Carlo Colaiacovo to temporarily fill the gap until Bogo and Gorges are healthy again (a few weeks?). I haven't looked to see who like that is available, but they found someone last year and could probably do it again.

We Sabres fans have gotten used to the fact that Murray rarely makes any moves. In fact, who really does anymore? I'd love to be wrong, but not at the expense of 15/90/23/55 You can have Girgens. Twice.
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

May 27 @ 1:03 PM ET
Right now we're a lot further along then you guys. If you get Stamkos you'll probably be able to pull ahead of us, depending on what we do this off season. Both teams have huge holes on defense and questionable goal tending
- bluengold12



^ this
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 27 @ 1:03 PM ET
I bet you Eichel is on that list in a few years. All ready has solid endorsement deals in just his first season
- bluengold12


agreed he will get a big endorsement deal when he's with Boston



Stirring the pot to the max
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 27 @ 1:04 PM ET
Leafs

Beast of the East
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

May 27 @ 1:04 PM ET
I bet you Eichel is on that list in a few years. All ready has solid endorsement deals in just his first season
- bluengold12


He signed that exclusive deal with Leaf trading cards, and I think he and McDavid have endorsements from competing hockey gear companies also (McDavid has a CCM endorsement I believe, which I think was also the biggest single NHL endorsement ever).

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 27 @ 1:04 PM ET
agreed he will get a big endorsement deal when he's with Boston



Stirring the pot to the max

- GERBE!!!75PTS

I am 45 years old and never seen the leafs in the finals
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

May 27 @ 1:04 PM ET
Leafs

Breast of the East

- homiedclown



fixed
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

May 27 @ 1:05 PM ET
Sillyness - you are talking about downtown core which is amazing place to have fun.....go to midtown or uptown and you have everything you want without the high sky rises.
Toronto is an amazing city and always listed as one of the top cities in the world.

- Cooshie

Not from Lots of folks that used to live there and can't stand what it has become. Was not just my opinion . Theses folks came in from all over the world . Just another ugly albatross. Interchangeable with Houston , Dallas etc.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 27 @ 1:05 PM ET
Yeah, here's what I think. While it's unlikely any of us has a clue about what's inside Murray's head, and things like the salary cap, NTCs/NMCs, and the declining economy's impact on future revenues make it nearly impossible to trade anyone of any significance, it's not inconceivable that the Sabres could make a mid-season move.
Ror, Eichel, Reinhart, Risto are probably not on the block since they represent the young core of this team and are all locked up long-term. We all know Moulson's contract is insane, but given the length and amount of the others, it seems unlikely to me there's a better deal out there. Remember Russ Brandon is a numbers guy, and 5 mil 3 years from now will be looking pretty good. Kane's deal is an especially favorable one for the club. You might even be able to throw Foligno into this category b/c his value to the Sabres is high given his hustle and toughness.

Franson is a popular choices for a change of venue, but his UFA status would mean they'd need to go to a contender for the receiving team to be willing to assume the risk. That said, what's the likelihood of a contender sending the Sabres something worthy of a blockbuster? That's not even taking into account Girgens sucking last year, Pysyk getting a reputation of being lazy, and Lehner being more fragile than the leg lamp in A Christmas Story. This, coming from the guy who actually owns a Lehner jersey.

As far as young talent at forward goes, Fasching, Bailey and Nelson are the only roster players in that category. They're all tradable, but not enough to bring in an impact player. To me, the Sabres would need to include one of Ullmark, Carrier or Guhle to get another team interested. Possible, though McCabe seems like he's got a future here.

Lastly, if they're really trying to fix the recent injury problem at defense, they're not going to trade any defensemen. Even still, it's more likely they'll do what they did last year and bring in a veteran like Carlo Colaiacovo to temporarily fill the gap until Bogo and Gorges are healthy again (a few weeks?). I haven't looked to see who like that is available, but they found someone last year and could probably do it again.

We Sabres fans have gotten used to the fact that Murray rarely makes any moves. In fact, who really does anymore? I'd love to be wrong, but not at the expense of 15/90/23/55 You can have Girgens. Twice.

- homiedclown


Steve Ott is not a center.
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

May 27 @ 1:05 PM ET
Yeah, here's what I think. While it's unlikely any of us has a clue about what's inside Murray's head, and things like the salary cap, NTCs/NMCs, and the declining economy's impact on future revenues make it nearly impossible to trade anyone of any significance, it's not inconceivable that the Sabres could make a mid-season move.
Ror, Eichel, Reinhart, Risto are probably not on the block since they represent the young core of this team and are all locked up long-term. We all know Moulson's contract is insane, but given the length and amount of the others, it seems unlikely to me there's a better deal out there. Remember Russ Brandon is a numbers guy, and 5 mil 3 years from now will be looking pretty good. Kane's deal is an especially favorable one for the club. You might even be able to throw Foligno into this category b/c his value to the Sabres is high given his hustle and toughness.

Franson is a popular choices for a change of venue, but his UFA status would mean they'd need to go to a contender for the receiving team to be willing to assume the risk. That said, what's the likelihood of a contender sending the Sabres something worthy of a blockbuster? That's not even taking into account Girgens sucking last year, Pysyk getting a reputation of being lazy, and Lehner being more fragile than the leg lamp in A Christmas Story. This, coming from the guy who actually owns a Lehner jersey.

As far as young talent at forward goes, Fasching, Bailey and Nelson are the only roster players in that category. They're all tradable, but not enough to bring in an impact player. To me, the Sabres would need to include one of Ullmark, Carrier or Guhle to get another team interested. Possible, though McCabe seems like he's got a future here.

Lastly, if they're really trying to fix the recent injury problem at defense, they're not going to trade any defensemen. Even still, it's more likely they'll do what they did last year and bring in a veteran like Carlo Colaiacovo to temporarily fill the gap until Bogo and Gorges are healthy again (a few weeks?). I haven't looked to see who like that is available, but they found someone last year and could probably do it again.

We Sabres fans have gotten used to the fact that Murray rarely makes any moves. In fact, who really does anymore? I'd love to be wrong, but not at the expense of 15/90/23/55 You can have Girgens. Twice.

- homiedclown

We're pretty much on the same page
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

May 27 @ 1:05 PM ET
I am 45 years old and never seen the leafs in the finals
- homiedclown

I am 56 and saw them in when there were only 6 teams and I was 7.
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

May 27 @ 1:05 PM ET
Who'd want to play for that hack Shanaban anyway?

In all seriousness the dollar is another thing to think about, seen as it's worth a lot more right now then the loonie

- bluengold12


The dollar? Are you serious? Everyone gets paid is US funds.
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

May 27 @ 1:06 PM ET
Bottom line is, if Stamkos signs in Buffalo, it would be shocking.

Probably to Buffalonians too (if they are being honest)
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

May 27 @ 1:06 PM ET
Steve Ott is not a center.
- Der Kaiser

Yeah, here's what I think. While it's unlikely any of us has a clue about what's inside Murray's head, and things like the salary cap, NTCs/NMCs, and the declining economy's impact on future revenues make it nearly impossible to trade anyone of any significance, it's not inconceivable that the Sabres could make an offseason move.

Eichel, Reinhart, O'Reilly, Ristolainen are probably not on the block since they represent the young core of this team and are all locked up long-term. We all know O'Reilly's contract is insane, but given the length and amount of the others, it seems unlikely to me there's a better deal out there. Remember Russ Brandon is a numbers guy, and 7 mil 7 years from now will be looking pretty good. Nobody's deal is a favorable one for the club. You might even be able to throw Girgensons into this category b/c his value to the Sabres is high given his hustle and toughness, even though he sucked donkey balls last season.

Pysyk, Ennis, and Franson are popular choices for a change of venue, but their UFA/RFA status would mean they'd need to go to a contender for the receiving team to be willing to assume the risk. That said, what's the likelihood of a contender sending the Sabres something worthy of a blockbuster? That's not even taking into account Pysyk sucking for the last 2 years, Franson getting a reputation of being slow, and (Tin-ler) Ennis being more fragile than the leg lamp in A Christmas Story. This, coming from the guy who actually owns an Ennis jersey.

As far as young talent at forward goes, Kane, Fasching, McCabe are the only roster players in that category. They're all tradable, but not enough to bring in an impact player. To me, the Sabres would need to include one of Guhle, Bailey, Baptiste to get another team interested. Possible, though Guhle seems like he's got a future here.

Lastly, if they're really trying to fix the recent injury problem at defense, they're not going to trade any defensemen. Even still, it's more likely they'll do what they did last year and bring in a veteran like Carlo Colaiacovo to temporarily fill the gap until Gorges and Franson are healthy again (a few weeks?). I haven't looked to see who like that is available, but they found someone last year and could probably do it again.

We Sabres fans have gotten used to the fact that Murray overpays for players he wants. In fact, who really doesn't anymore? I'd love to be wrong, but not at the expense of 15 / 23 / 90 / 55. You can have Pysyk. Twice.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 27 @ 1:06 PM ET
Leafs

Beast of the East

- homiedclown

The Mecca
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 27 @ 1:06 PM ET
He signed that exclusive deal with Leaf trading cards, and I think he and McDavid have endorsements from competing hockey gear companies also (McDavid has a CCM endorsement I believe, which I think was also the biggest single NHL endorsement ever).
- stashu

https://www.nhl.com/news/...ith-bauer-hockey/c-776855
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

May 27 @ 1:07 PM ET
agreed he will get a big endorsement deal when he's with Boston



Stirring the pot to the max

- GERBE!!!75PTS


Hate going there . The bastards double and triple park . Impossible to drive around town.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 27 @ 1:07 PM ET
Girgenson's can be had for a case tuna fish of anyone wants him.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 27 @ 1:08 PM ET
Yeah, here's what I think. While it's unlikely any of us has a clue about what's inside Murray's head, and things like the salary cap, NTCs/NMCs, and the declining economy's impact on future revenues make it nearly impossible to trade anyone of any significance, it's not inconceivable that the Sabres could make an offseason move.

Eichel, Reinhart, O'Reilly, Ristolainen are probably not on the block since they represent the young core of this team and are all locked up long-term. We all know O'Reilly's contract is insane, but given the length and amount of the others, it seems unlikely to me there's a better deal out there. Remember Russ Brandon is a numbers guy, and 7 mil 7 years from now will be looking pretty good. Nobody's deal is a favorable one for the club. You might even be able to throw Girgensons into this category b/c his value to the Sabres is high given his hustle and toughness, even though he sucked donkey balls last season.

Pysyk, Ennis, and Franson are popular choices for a change of venue, but their UFA/RFA status would mean they'd need to go to a contender for the receiving team to be willing to assume the risk. That said, what's the likelihood of a contender sending the Sabres something worthy of a blockbuster? That's not even taking into account Pysyk sucking for the last 2 years, Franson getting a reputation of being slow, and (Tin-ler) Ennis being more fragile than the leg lamp in A Christmas Story. This, coming from the guy who actually owns an Ennis jersey.

As far as young talent at forward goes, Kane, Fasching, McCabe are the only roster players in that category. They're all tradable, but not enough to bring in an impact player. To me, the Sabres would need to include one of Guhle, Bailey, Baptiste to get another team interested. Possible, though Guhle seems like he's got a future here.

Lastly, if they're really trying to fix the recent injury problem at defense, they're not going to trade any defensemen. Even still, it's more likely they'll do what they did last year and bring in a veteran like Carlo Colaiacovo to temporarily fill the gap until Gorges and Franson are healthy again (a few weeks?). I haven't looked to see who like that is available, but they found someone last year and could probably do it again.

We Sabres fans have gotten used to the fact that Murray overpays for players he wants. In fact, who really doesn't anymore? I'd love to be wrong, but not at the expense of 15 / 23 / 90 / 55. You can have Pysyk. Twice.

- CaptainRivet


Miller is elite.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 27 @ 1:08 PM ET
Bottom line is, if Stamkos signs in Buffalo, it would be shocking.

Probably to Buffalonians too (if they are being honest)

- Cooshie


I can always sign him on nhl16 .. And done
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 27 @ 1:08 PM ET
The Mecca
- SABRES 89

I have yet to see them in the finals


Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

May 27 @ 1:08 PM ET
Not from Lots of folks that used to live there and can't stand what it has become. Was not just my opinion . Theses folks came in from all over the world . Just another ugly albatross. Interchangeable with Houston , Dallas etc.
- Maximum Signal


Not from all the people I talk to.
I know a ton of people that have moved away from Toronto (Job, family, etc...)
Almost all have either come back or long to come back.

Toronto is a phenomenal city in all aspects.
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