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bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

May 27 @ 12:51 PM ET
Please stop man. And stop pretending Toronto isn't a far superior city
- MCGUIZZY



Vancouver is a superior city too. Why doesn't he go play for them..... Stupid argument
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 27 @ 12:51 PM ET
This is very exciting.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

May 27 @ 12:51 PM ET
Just shows you are talking out of your arse

- Cooshie


Maybe keep JVR but Loupl is hurting you guys in the cap if you want to be big players.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 27 @ 12:52 PM ET
Yeah I don't understand why every UFA discussion turns out into some city vs. city pissing matchup. Stamkos will make a choice, at some point, soon, and we have nothing to do with it. Maybe he'll choose the hometown highlights, maybe not.
- Not_Yan



Just a question has a person that's from their hometown ever lived up to their potential ? It seems like they all fail
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

May 27 @ 12:52 PM ET
He's probably reading this right now and scratching Buffalo off of his list.
- Streit2ThePoint


Really? Whoa

BONJOUR STEVEN PLEASE COME TO MONTREAL
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

May 27 @ 12:52 PM ET
Yeah, here's what I think. While it's unlikely any of us has a clue about what's inside Murray's head, and things like the salary cap, NTCs/NMCs, and the declining economy's impact on future revenues make it nearly impossible to trade anyone of any significance, it's not inconceivable that the Sabres could make an offseason move.

Eichel, Reinhart, O'Reilly, Ristolainen are probably not on the block since they represent the young core of this team and are all locked up long-term. We all know O'Reilly's contract is insane, but given the length and amount of the others, it seems unlikely to me there's a better deal out there. Remember Russ Brandon is a numbers guy, and 7 mil 7 years from now will be looking pretty good. Nobody's deal is a favorable one for the club. You might even be able to throw Girgensons into this category b/c his value to the Sabres is high given his hustle and toughness, even though he sucked donkey balls last season.

Pysyk, Ennis, and Franson are popular choices for a change of venue, but their UFA/RFA status would mean they'd need to go to a contender for the receiving team to be willing to assume the risk. That said, what's the likelihood of a contender sending the Sabres something worthy of a blockbuster? That's not even taking into account Pysyk sucking for the last 2 years, Franson getting a reputation of being slow, and (Tin-ler) Ennis being more fragile than the leg lamp in A Christmas Story. This, coming from the guy who actually owns a Ennis jersey.

As far as young talent at forward goes, Kane, Fasching, McCabe are the only roster players in that category. They're all tradable, but not enough to bring in an impact player. To me, the Sabres would need to include one of Guhle, Bailey, Baptiste to get another team interested. Possible, though Guhle seems like he's got a future here.

Lastly, if they're really trying to fix the recent injury problem at defense, they're not going to trade any defensemen. Even still, it's more likely they'll do what they did last year and bring in a veteran like Carlo Colaiacovo to temporarily fill the gap until Gorges and Franson are healthy again (a few weeks?). I haven't looked to see who like that is available, but they found someone last year and could probably do it again.

We Sabres fans have gotten used to the fact that Murray overpays for players he wants. In fact, who really doesn't anymore? I'd love to be wrong, but not at the expense of 15 / 23 / 90 / 55. You can have Pysyk. Twice.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

May 27 @ 12:53 PM ET
Really? Whoa

BONJOUR STEVEN PLEASE COME TO MONTREAL

- Not_Yan


GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 27 @ 12:53 PM ET
Vancouver is a superior city too. Why doesn't he go play for them..... Stupid argument
- bluengold12


That would actually be a really beautiful place to go too bad they don't have a team though
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 27 @ 12:53 PM ET
Yeah, here's what I think. While it's unlikely any of us has a clue about what's inside Darcy's head, and things like the salary cap, NTCs/NMCs, and the declining economy's impact on future revenues make it nearly impossible to trade anyone of any significance, it's not inconceivable that the Sabres could make a mid-season move.

Vanek, Roy, Miller, Pommer are probably not on the block since they represent the young core of this team and are all locked up long-term. We all know Vanek's contract is insane, but given the length and amount of the others, it seems unlikely to me there's a better deal out there. Remember Larry Quinn is a numbers guy, and 5 mil 6 years from now will be looking pretty good. Roy's deal is an especially favorable one for the club. You might even be able to throw Goose into this category b/c his value to the Sabres is high given his hustle and toughness.

Max, Kotalik, and Connolly are popular choices for a change of venue, but their UFA status would mean they'd need to go to a contender for the receiving team to be willing to assume the risk. That said, what's the likelihood of a contender sending the Sabres something worthy of a blockbuster? That's not even taking into account Max sucking for the last 2 years, Kotalik getting a reputation of being lazy, and (Tin) Connolly being more fragile than the leg lamp in A Christmas Story. This, coming from the guy who actually owns a Connolly jersey.

As far as young talent at forward goes, Stafford, MacArthur, Paille are the only roster players in that category. They're all tradable, but not enough to bring in an impact player. To me, the Sabres would need to include one of Mancari, Gerbe, or Kennedy to get another team interested. Possible, though Gerbe seems like he's got a future here.

Lastly, if they're really trying to fix the recent injury problem at defense, they're not going to trade any defensemen. Even still, it's more likely they'll do what they did last year and bring in a veteran like Nolan Pratt to temporarily fill the gap until Weber and Sekera are healthy again (a few weeks?). I haven't looked to see who like that is available, but they found someone last year and could probably do it again.

We Sabres fans have gotten used to the fact that Darcy rarely makes any moves. In fact, who really does anymore? I'd love to be wrong, but not at the expense of 26 / 9 / 30 / 29. You can have Peters. Twice.

- CaptainRivet

this needs a makeover

Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

May 27 @ 12:53 PM ET
You need to do your research . Buffalo was just named #1 vacation destination in America. Was in Toronto last weekend . The city has lost its charm . All the High rises blackout the sun in what used to be an amazing downtown . Met with old friends that all used to live there and we all agreed . No desire to move back there now. Just another big ugly metropolis with the urban blight.
- Maximum Signal


Sillyness - you are talking about downtown core which is amazing place to have fun.....go to midtown or uptown and you have everything you want without the high sky rises.
Toronto is an amazing city and always listed as one of the top cities in the world.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 27 @ 12:54 PM ET
Maybe keep JVR but Loupl is hurting you guys in the cap if you want to be big players.
- bluengold12


I would rather have those two then the fossil and molasses
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

May 27 @ 12:54 PM ET
By playing in Pittsburgh or being Crosby?

So let's say Crosby gets endorsements from Primanti Brothers. I would think if he played for, lets say Philadelphia, he could get the same endorsements from a Gino's or Pats

- Streit2ThePoint


There's no denying that Buffalo likely doesn't have a ton of high-end endorsement opportunities, but NYC does, all Canadian markets claim to, yet there are no Leafs or Canadiens on this list (from 2014)

http://sportschatplace.co...ement-earnings-in-the-nhl

CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

May 27 @ 12:55 PM ET
this needs a makeover
- homiedclown

I'll work on it
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

May 27 @ 12:56 PM ET
Sillyness - you are talking about downtown core which is amazing place to have fun.....go to midtown or uptown and you have everything you want without the high sky rises.
Toronto is an amazing city and always listed as one of the top cities in the world.

- Cooshie


There's a lot to do in a lot of cities that won't matter. The chicks are hotter in Tampa then Buffalo and Toronto combined. Could use that argument. Or how about the gas prices? Or the Tim Hortons per capita?
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

May 27 @ 12:57 PM ET
Maybe keep JVR but Loupl is hurting you guys in the cap if you want to be big players.
- bluengold12


Lupul sucks but he comes off the books in 2 yrs.....most teams have a bad contract or 2 or 3.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 27 @ 12:57 PM ET
this needs a makeover
- homiedclown

MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

May 27 @ 12:57 PM ET
Yeah, here's what I think. While it's unlikely any of us has a clue about what's inside Darcy's head, and things like the salary cap, NTCs/NMCs, and the declining economy's impact on future revenues make it nearly impossible to trade anyone of any significance, it's not inconceivable that the Sabres could make a mid-season move.

Vanek, Roy, Miller, Pommer are probably not on the block since they represent the young core of this team and are all locked up long-term. We all know Vanek's contract is insane, but given the length and amount of the others, it seems unlikely to me there's a better deal out there. Remember Larry Quinn is a numbers guy, and 5 mil 6 years from now will be looking pretty good. Roy's deal is an especially favorable one for the club. You might even be able to throw Goose into this category b/c his value to the Sabres is high given his hustle and toughness.

Max, Kotalik, and Connolly are popular choices for a change of venue, but their UFA status would mean they'd need to go to a contender for the receiving team to be willing to assume the risk. That said, what's the likelihood of a contender sending the Sabres something worthy of a blockbuster? That's not even taking into account Max sucking for the last 2 years, Kotalik getting a reputation of being lazy, and (Tin) Connolly being more fragile than the leg lamp in A Christmas Story. This, coming from the guy who actually owns a Connolly jersey.

As far as young talent at forward goes, Stafford, MacArthur, Paille are the only roster players in that category. They're all tradable, but not enough to bring in an impact player. To me, the Sabres would need to include one of Mancari, Gerbe, or Kennedy to get another team interested. Possible, though Gerbe seems like he's got a future here.

Lastly, if they're really trying to fix the recent injury problem at defense, they're not going to trade any defensemen. Even still, it's more likely they'll do what they did last year and bring in a veteran like Nolan Pratt to temporarily fill the gap until Weber and Sekera are healthy again (a few weeks?). I haven't looked to see who like that is available, but they found someone last year and could probably do it again.

We Sabres fans have gotten used to the fact that Darcy rarely makes any moves. In fact, who really does anymore? I'd love to be wrong, but not at the expense of 26 / 9 / 30 / 29. You can have Peters. Twice.

- CaptainRivet


Nolan Pratt had a tiny head
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

May 27 @ 12:57 PM ET
There's no denying that Buffalo likely doesn't have a ton of high-end endorsement opportunities, but NYC does, all Canadian markets claim to, yet there are no Leafs or Canadiens on this list (from 2014)

http://sportschatplace.co...ement-earnings-in-the-nhl

- stashu


But see most of their endorsements are national brands, not like city specific deals which is what I thought SameOld was referring to. That Stamkos would be getting millions off of Toronto specific endorsements...
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

May 27 @ 12:57 PM ET
Eat snacky s'mores
- Khmylev


East Side Marios could become East Side Stamkos . Maybe they will name the dome after him ! The Stamkos Centre. Shoeless Joe's Becomes Shoeless Steves . The possibilities are endless.


Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

May 27 @ 12:58 PM ET
There's a lot to do in a lot of cities that won't matter. The chicks are hotter in Tampa then Buffalo and Toronto combined. Could use that argument. Or how about the gas prices? Or the Tim Hortons per capita?
- bluengold12


Now you are getting out of hand.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

May 27 @ 12:59 PM ET
There's no denying that Buffalo likely doesn't have a ton of high-end endorsement opportunities, but NYC does, all Canadian markets claim to, yet there are no Leafs or Canadiens on this list (from 2014)

http://sportschatplace.co...ement-earnings-in-the-nhl

- stashu


I bet you Eichel is on that list in a few years. All ready has solid endorsement deals in just his first season
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

May 27 @ 12:59 PM ET
But see most of their endorsements are national brands, not like city specific deals which is what I thought SameOld was referring to. That Stamkos would be getting millions off of Toronto specific endorsements...
- Streit2ThePoint


He could sing the jingle for Pizza Nova instead of Alfie Zappacosta!
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

May 27 @ 1:00 PM ET
He could sing the jingle for Pizza Nova instead of Alfie Zappacosta!
- Maximum Signal


Or that disgusting Boston Pizza I see every time I go to Canada...
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

May 27 @ 1:01 PM ET
Moulson.

O'Riley signed an extension here and Kane said he wanted to come here.

- bluengold12


So 1 guy signed as UFA, exactly. And you can keep Moulson - BLAH!!
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

May 27 @ 1:01 PM ET
But see most of their endorsements are national brands, not like city specific deals which is what I thought SameOld was referring to. That Stamkos would be getting millions off of Toronto specific endorsements...
- Streit2ThePoint


I'm agreeing with you - the endorsement angle is pretty nuts IMO. I've read arguments before how "Toronto businesses will open the wallets to endorse Stamkos to get him to play here!"

I dunno, I just don't see it.

And while their NHL salary is in American dollars, Toronto endorsements wouldn't be, so there's a 30% loss of value there. But, I'm sure the wallets would be opened to pay well over that loss, of course.
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