I've been gone for a week...what did you guys do to my Marlies.

Even if traded to Leafs, Stamkos will be limited to only a 7 year contract under CBA rules.

Edit: Ok others have corrected MA
- Leafsandbolts

Is there a clause that they have to have played the season prior or something?

Because I thought as long as it was your own player, you could sign for 8 years.

So if they traded for him at the draft, they get his current contract, he becomes a Leaf under the current deal (for 1 more week after the draft) and during that time, they can extend him for 8.

I always thought it worked like that.

Huh, learn something new every day

Are sign and trades allowed under CBA? Can Toronto agree to a contract with Stamkos and then trade something to Tampa to sign him for that contract amount.

So hypothetically Leafs and Stamkos agree to 8 yr 72 million dollar contract. Toronto gets Tampa to sign Stamkos to that deal and then trades him immediately to Toronto for a player or picks. That way at least Tampa gets something out of it.

I know it happens all the time in the NBA.
- Matthews_Auston

Does not make any sense logically. The eighth year of a contract is almost always in the favor of the player not the team. Logically speaking the player will not be at his peak at the end of his contract. It would be hard to imagine Stamkos producing more at 34-35 years old than at 26-27 years old. So why on earth would a team pay compensation for a negative?

Does not make any sense logically. The eighth year of a contract is almost always in the favor of the player not the team. Logically speaking the player will not be at his peak at the end of his contract. It would be hard to imagine Stamkos producing more at 34-35 years old than at 26-27 years old. So why on earth would a team pay compensation for a negative?
- winsix

Fair points, and a 7 year deal would put him right at expiry just after we have to re-sign Rielly, and probably one of our forward prospects will be up for a pay day by then.

He could always be moved at that time if need be.

Are sign and trades allowed under CBA? Can Toronto agree to a contract with Stamkos and then trade something to Tampa to sign him for that contract amount.

So hypothetically Leafs and Stamkos agree to 8 yr 72 million dollar contract. Toronto gets Tampa to sign Stamkos to that deal and then trades him immediately to Toronto for a player or picks. That way at least Tampa gets something out of it.

I know it happens all the time in the NBA.
- Matthews_Auston

It essentially never happens in the nhl.

I’m usually the first to dismiss them.

This might actually be the one time it makes some sense…

I've been gone for a week...what did you guys do to my Marlies.
- Woderwick

GARTH gave them all food poisoning as revenge for Jacky Boy.

Does not make any sense logically. The eighth year of a contract is almost always in the favor of the player not the team. Logically speaking the player will not be at his peak at the end of his contract. It would be hard to imagine Stamkos producing more at 34-35 years old than at 26-27 years old. So why on earth would a team pay compensation for a negative?
- winsix

fair points.

Stamkos would really have to push for it … otherwise it’s dead in the water.

I don’t think the compensation to TB would be a lot. A package of spare parts consisting of some of bozak/Holland/leivo/percy/s.carrick is all I’d see going back.

Bozak isn't kadri, finkel is einhorn
- burn

They are not the same human being, correct.
But they are similar players in the context of the convo

He's regarded as one of the hardest working players in the NHL. Even while on the IR before game 7 Pierre Maguire was saying Stamkos was in the best shape of anyone on TB.
- Schennski

Pierre McGuire : is easily one of the biggest bonehead commentators working in NHL broadcasting. If you don't believe me, listen to his reaction when the Habs selected Price fifth overall at the 05 draft

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLNOtoJ8vb0

GARTH gave them all food poisoning as revenge for Jacky Boy.
- AdamFrench

What Stamkos brings to the table in terms of work ethic, leadership, and media shelter for the kids is worth the money.

The leafs aren't a #1 center away from a cup. But who are the Matthews, Marner, Nylanders looking up to as veterans? Laich, Michalek, Lupul, JVR? They need someone who makes them think 'if Datsyuk is hitting the gym this hard I should be too'
- Schennski

Look at Jagr in FLA. He's showing the kids what it take to be a pro in the big league.

And he would know! He drilled the holes to the shower rooms himself!
- AdamFrench

Excuse me? We have Michalek, Lupus & Horton watching from afar. How much MORE leadership can a team have!?
- DamnBrasKiss

and Robidas is renting Johnny Depp's island.

And he would know! He drilled the holes to the shower rooms himself!
- AdamFrench

Stamkos could be our O'Reilly. Young enough to be in the long term plans but still old enough that Matthews would be influenced by him.

I'm sure Michalek, Laich and Lupul would be good insulators, but no way Nylander is looking at Laich and thinking 'I want to be him in 8 years'
- Schennski

I don't know your roster, so like I said I wasn't trying to downplay who you have there. Just pointing out the Sabres have former captain of a couple teams plus Stanley Cup winner in Gionta, a respected hard working O'Reilly, and a respected veteran in Gorges. Not saying Gionta and Gorges are much good anymore, but it's also not their stat sheet that is helping the younger guys.

Obviously Stamkos helps a bunch, and JVR, but do you guys have any former cup winners/10+ year NHL vets? Again, truly asking because I don't know your roster.

As many Sabres fans have said in our threads, we're excited for both teams to be good again in the next couple years and play some meaningful games against each other.

I don't know your roster, so like I said I wasn't trying to downplay who you have there. Just pointing out the Sabres have former captain of a couple teams plus Stanley Cup winner in Gionta, a respected hard working O'Reilly, and a respected veteran in Gorges. Not saying Gionta and Gorges are much good anymore, but it's also not their stat sheet that is helping the younger guys.

Obviously Stamkos helps a bunch, and JVR, but do you guys have any former cup winners/10+ year NHL vets? Again, truly asking because I don't know your roster.

As many Sabres fans have said in our threads, we're excited for both teams to be good again in the next couple years and play some meaningful games against each other.
- stashu

Bernier only, as far as I know

Bernier only, as far as I know
- WingmanWillie

Soon to be Reimer as well.

Cornering the market on Cup winners as backups.

They are not the same human being, correct.
But they are similar players in the context of the convo
- Fakepartofme

Cept one is way better.

Bozak doesn't do anything better than kadri. Saying we have bozak we don't need kadri doesn't make any sense

He's regarded as one of the hardest working players in the NHL. Even while on the IR before game 7 Pierre Maguire was saying Stamkos was in the best shape of anyone on TB.
- Schennski

If so, my stance is softened somewhat. I still get a feeling the Leafs might not even table him an offer though. Just going by what Babcock was saying in interviews during the world cup. Nothing definitive, but some of his comments made me think they view this the same why I do... great player, a year too early.
I'll see if I can dig up the interview in question and post a link...

Pierre McGuire : is easily one of the biggest bonehead commentators working in NHL broadcasting. If you don't believe me, listen to his reaction when the Habs selected Price fifth overall at the 05 draft

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLNOtoJ8vb0
- winsix

He's terrible, but might have the best access of any hockey media.

If so, my stance is softened somewhat. I still get a feeling the Leafs might not even table him an offer though. Just going by what Babcock was saying in interviews during the world cup. Nothing definitive, but some of his comments made me think they view this the same why I do... great player, a year too early.
I'll see if I can dig up the interview in question and post a link...
- oldstyle

It was the Dreger interview right?

Why do you have to be a 10 yr vet with a cup ring that's useless as poop on the ice to be able to show the kids the way?

They are not the same human being, correct.
But they are similar players in the context of the convo
- Fakepartofme

If by similar you mean very different.. then yes I agree

Look at Jagr in FLA. He's showing the kids what it take to be a pro in the big league.
- zazzle

Yes, and he doesn't have a 10 million for 7 years contract.

There is leadership we can obtain if that is whats needed without spending that loot and term on one player. Who's health is a big question mark which most people are not talking about or dodging the issue.

He's terrible, but might have the best access of any hockey media.
- Schennski

You are correct, but using him as a reference point on this blog is not optimal. I have read very little in the way of positives about him. He is perhaps the most hated guy by both players, broadcasters and fans there is in media. Check out this site, it's quite funny.

http://awfulannouncing.co...most-awkward-moments.html