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golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 27 @ 1:33 AM ET
What are you talking about? they are the same, it's a Scooby/Dshiddy thing..............right??
- A_SteamingLombardi


I remember them both as posters well before the stripes came.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 27 @ 1:40 AM ET

- Makita




Over the five years I've been on these boards I've had lengthy conversations with both of you and I just came to this realization about four months ago.



What a (frank)ing revelation.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 27 @ 1:42 AM ET
I remember them both as posters well before the stripes came.
- golfingsince


You and I joined around the same time. This place has changed a lot since them days.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 27 @ 1:45 AM ET
You and I joined around the same time. This place has changed a lot since them days.
- bloatedmosquito


This is my 3rd account.

I never lost any of them, just had to stop using my original for reasons at the time. I had another one but can't remember the password.

It has changed a bunch.

There are a bunch of quality posters that simply have disappeared.......probably because of days like today.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 27 @ 1:48 AM ET
Agree.

I find Backes has the same temperament. Good players but really easy to throw off their game with a little bit of prodding.

One of the reasons I give the twins so much respect was they rarely ever rattled or fell for the tricks the rats of the league employ. As Lucic’s skills diminish he gets more and more unpredictable. I would rather have Marchand. And that’s not saying much because I can’t stand Marchand.

- bloatedmosquito

I posted this exact same thing a couple of weeks ago...Marchand grew on me watching the IIHL tournament.

I can feel a connection bloated
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 27 @ 1:56 AM ET
No I don't belong to the drama queen group...I'm part of the circle jerk gang
- Makita

Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 27 @ 1:58 AM ET
I remember them both as posters well before the stripes came.
- golfingsince


I got to admit sometimes I wonder why I agreed to take on this gig (like today), I remember the reason and it was sensnucksnocups having free reign here because Micah555 took on a new job or something and wasn't around as much as was needed at the time. But sometimes I just want to go back to calling out asinine posters instead of being the responsible one...
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 27 @ 2:03 AM ET
I got to admit sometimes I wonder why I agreed to take on this gig (like today), I remember the reason and it was sensnucksnocups having free reign here because Micah555 took on a new job or something and wasn't around as much as was needed at the time. But sometimes I just want to go back to calling out asinine posters instead of being the responsible one...
- Makita


I remember those days.

Even when you weren't a ref you were pretty responsible.


I bet you'd love to be able to tell people how you really feel sometimes though.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 27 @ 2:14 AM ET
I remember those days.

Even when you weren't a ref you were pretty responsible.


I bet you'd love to be able to tell people how you really feel sometimes though.

- golfingsince


Yes, there was one in particular today, but you guys dealt with him quite well...
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 27 @ 2:15 AM ET
I got to admit sometimes I wonder why I agreed to take on this gig (like today), I remember the reason and it was sensnucksnocups having free reign here because Micah555 took on a new job or something and wasn't around as much as was needed at the time. But sometimes I just want to go back to calling out asinine posters instead of being the responsible one...
- Makita


I can take over your responsibilities next time Benning makes a trade?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 27 @ 2:16 AM ET
Yes, there was one in particular today, but you guys dealt with him quite well...
- Makita


You can also just ignore those posters likeVantel ignores Marwood
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 27 @ 2:21 AM ET
You can also just ignore those posters likeVantel ignores Marwood
- CanuckDon

There's some that just can't be ignored, especially when a bunch of guys flag the same poster...and as the ref that's my advice to you guys..ignore and don't feed the trolls.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 27 @ 2:22 AM ET
There is another 2nd in there and Mallet and then Pedan on our side. Bieksa and Garrison moved out as well
- Retinalz



Since July 1, 2015 Benning has traded....

Lack
Mallet
Bieksa
Garrison
Ryan Kesler
Hunter Shinkaruk
Adam Clendenning
Nick Jensen
Zack Kassian
2nd rd Pick
2nd rd Pick
2nd rd Pick
2nd rd Pick
4th rd Pick
5th rd Pick
6th rd Pick

for

Sven Baertschi
Pedan
Linden Vey
Lucas Sbisa
Brandon Sutter
Markus Granlund
Erik Gudbranson
Emerson Etem
Philip Larsen
Brandon Prust
2nd rd Pick
3rd rd Pick
5th rd Pick

Fixed

(frank) that was a lot of reading
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 27 @ 2:35 AM ET
There is another 2nd in there and Mallet and then Pedan on our side. Bieksa and Garrison moved out as well
- Retinalz


Plus Eddie Lack.

Benning has moved lots of pieces for lots of other pieces. While I'm ok with the idea of upgrading, or even taking a stab in the dark once in a while (Etem) I think the problem with most of his deals is that we've yet to see a clear case where the quantity of assets given up brings back a correlating and obvious improvement in quality.

This McCann trade and the Bonino trade see Benning giving up more pieces for a player that is not well known in this market, and not seen as an immediate improvement in talent over what we've already got. Is Gudbranson that much better than what Tryamkin will be in 1-2 years? Is Sutter that much of an upgrade over Bonino? Too much uncertainty for the fans to get on board, so the price paid seems excessive relative to what we're getting back.

Throwing in the 33rd overall pick in this year's draft for a player that won't adequately address the team's desperate need for offense from the blueline, is arguably overpaid and will soon be expendable to his current team, doesn't look like fair market value.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 27 @ 2:36 AM ET
I posted this exact same thing a couple of weeks ago...Marchand grew on me watching the IIHL tournament.

I can feel a connection bloated

- Makita


It's a tumour, go see a doctor stat!!!
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 27 @ 2:38 AM ET
It's a tumour, go see a doctor stat!!!

- Pres.cup

Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

May 27 @ 2:47 AM ET
Plus Eddie Lack.

Benning has moved lots of pieces for lots of other pieces. While I'm ok with the idea of upgrading, or even taking a stab in the dark once in a while (Etem) I think the problem with most of his deals is that we've yet to see a clear case where the quantity of assets given up brings back a correlating and obvious improvement in quality.

This McCann trade and the Bonino trade see Benning giving up more pieces for a player that is not well known in this market, and not seen as an immediate improvement in talent over what we've already got. Is Gudbranson that much better than what Tryamkin will be in 1-2 years? Is Sutter that much of an upgrade over Bonino? Too much uncertainty for the fans to get on board, so the price paid seems excessive relative to what we're getting back.

Throwing in the 33rd overall pick in this year's draft for a player that won't adequately address the team's desperate need for offense from the blueline, is arguably overpaid and will soon be expendable to his current team, doesn't look like fair market value.

- YeOldTimer

Sort of. Our defense was horrible last season, not just offensively but defensively. With Tanev and Gudbranson now solidifying a defensive aspect for the team. Edler and Hutton can focus a bit more on being offensive. I could see Edler + Hutton combining for 70-80 pts next season.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 27 @ 2:49 AM ET
It's a tumour, go see a doctor stat!!!

- Pres.cup

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 27 @ 8:46 AM ET
As I stated earlier I think lucic is a hothead, I lost whatever respect I had for the meathead when he threatened a Montreal player during the handshake after Boston were eliminated in the playoffs a few years ago.

Also when LA needed him most to make the playoffs he's running around on a personal vendetta and putting his team shorthanded...people think the refs hate Vancouver now...just wait until meathead is signed.

- Makita


I would hope that as Lucic gets older and with a great coach (WD) that he could help him and the Sedins as mentors. Almost a perfect fit! lol.

I don't condon anything he has ever done in the past. I'm also not saying go out and sign him no matter what. I just don't like closed doors.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 27 @ 9:17 AM ET
While Small Marner is the best player in Junior hockey and one of the best prospects in the world.. not worried about him. Nylander should be an alright 2nd line center.
- ClarksonDavid

you should be. I have been watching him in the Mem.Cup. practices here he has work ethic issues.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 27 @ 9:24 AM ET
I got to admit sometimes I wonder why I agreed to take on this gig (like today), I remember the reason and it was sensnucksnocups having free reign here because Micah555 took on a new job or something and wasn't around as much as was needed at the time. But sometimes I just want to go back to calling out asinine posters instead of being the responsible one...
- Makita


What a piece of work
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 27 @ 9:30 AM ET
you should be. I have been watching him in the Mem.Cup. practices here he has work ethic issues.
- LordHumungous

I always wondered how much stock is put into that. It is a big problem when teams look prospects. Is it more about attitude as an 18 year old.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 27 @ 9:42 AM ET
One thing i'd really really like to see the canucks do is split up the sedins a bunch. May be just me but i thought last year when Henrik got injuired and McCann and Vey were playing first line that it was good. I'm not sure what the record was with Henrik missing. I'm not talking about weeks of playing apart but a period here or there. Even split them on different PP's.
69Mach1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Smokanagan
Joined: 10.24.2015

May 27 @ 9:46 AM ET
http://www.litterboxcats....-panthers-top-25-under-25

This is probably already posted in the previous 30 odd pages, still an interesting read from last year. Advanced stats can be eh eh interesting
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 27 @ 9:51 AM ET
McKenzie this morning on the trade about 1/2 way through. Pretty fair assessment.

http://www.tsn.ca/radio/m...lkin-was-a-force-1.496618
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