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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks Acquire Erik Gudbranson From Florida for Jared McCann
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 26 @ 8:43 PM ET
FYI JB said McCann took the trade hard & is up to 194#'s
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 26 @ 8:44 PM ET
FYI JB said McCann took the trade hard & is up to 194#'s
- Nighthawk


He's eating cheeseburgers to console himself?
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 26 @ 8:46 PM ET
When u get a seasoned young RH offensive D a 5OA is ballpark.
Takes jam but if a GM sees a fit & the need it makes sense.

- Nighthawk

Never would I trade the 5th for barrie. Thats crazy he isnt even a top pari dman on a junk avs team with a bad d.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 26 @ 9:01 PM ET
Come on, Sbisa isn't that bad. He's not that good either, but he's not a bad player.
- micah555


I didn't say anything aboutSbisa being bad or Gudbranson?

I'm saying that those guys had played around 300 games when the Canucks acquired them and by that point regardless of age or draft position you have a pretty decent idea of what the player will be. Sbisa has improved, although marginally IMO, Gudbranson will also improve but what's his realistic ceiling at this point? A more physical Garrison? Willie Mitchell?

Maybe I'm setting my bar low and those guys are useful players but I like the potential of McCann, the 33 and the 123 of getting a more impactful player or players than what Gudbranson is/potential and the 5th.

Who knows, I'm not upset about the trade, I'm just not confident it will work out for us.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 26 @ 9:04 PM ET
So pretty much like Vancouver.
- VANTEL

Vancouver has no top end prospects like those at forward.
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

May 26 @ 9:07 PM ET
Could this be part of a move to trade for a higher draft pick?
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

May 26 @ 9:09 PM ET
It would cost Tanev. That's what Linden said today.
- VANTEL


Just Tanev for Barrie? in a heartbeat id do that. Have Barrie for offense and Gudbranson as defensive
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

May 26 @ 9:11 PM ET
So pretty much like Vancouver.
- VANTEL


I do like Virtanen alot more then Nylander. But no way do we have a prospect who could even touch Matthews or Marner.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 26 @ 9:11 PM ET
Done!

I would have done this deal any day of the week.

McCann has youth and potential but did not shine for two shifts in a row all season.

I like this trend.... building from the Net out.

Besides... it's obvious now Vancouver will be drafting a forward OR they feel they have more than enough to cover McCann's loss.

McCann's can be replaced. Gudbranson is a huge-dman and a top 4 or 2 pairing... not an easy find.

I agree with Willie Mitchell "WTF!"

- Beatle_john




I'm very confused why Florida targeted McCann. They are stacked down the middle so I guess they see him as a 3rd line winger a few years down the road? I'll be very interested how he does in the AHL next year. The Panthers are getting shredded by their fans. Just a few weeks ago their was an article that he may be the future captain
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 26 @ 9:12 PM ET
Just Tanev for Barrie? in a heartbeat id do that. Have Barrie for offense and Gudbranson as defensive
- phyllee

mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 26 @ 9:13 PM ET
I do like Virtanen alot more then Nylander. But no way do we have a prospect who could even touch Matthews or Marner.
- phyllee

very true
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 26 @ 9:14 PM ET
Could this be part of a move to trade for a higher draft pick?
- docmorgan

I am hoping this means edler out for a high 1st and then we sign a replacement through free agency. Get younger add picks then the overall this deal makes way more sense to me.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 26 @ 9:16 PM ET
I didn't say anything aboutSbisa being bad or Gudbranson?

I'm saying that those guys had played around 300 games when the Canucks acquired them and by that point regardless of age or draft position you have a pretty decent idea of what the player will be. Sbisa has improved, although marginally IMO, Gudbranson will also improve but what's his realistic ceiling at this point? A more physical Garrison? Willie Mitchell?

Maybe I'm setting my bar low and those guys are useful players but I like the potential of McCann, the 33 and the 123 of getting a more impactful player or players than what Gudbranson is/potential and the 5th.

Who knows, I'm not upset about the trade, I'm just not confident it will work out for us.

- belcherbd


I think this is the general thoughts of most. I dont think anyone doesnt like gudbranson its just that we need to start and stock pile the picks and prospects and we are doing the opposite.

It will be an interesting summer for sure.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 26 @ 9:36 PM ET
If that happens, I will switch over to the hate JB side, I like JV as a prospect and hope he has 10+ years as a canuck.
- Retinalz


I'm on the fence with JV...I've seen him out in the town a few too many times. Hopefully the org can reel in his partyside so we don't have Kassian 2.0 on our hands
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 26 @ 9:38 PM ET
Makin a play for a top 4 RD happens when u can do it.
The price is stiff but its what it takes.
I can live with it i expect to see our prospects start to make waves asap.
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

May 26 @ 9:39 PM ET
I am hoping this means edler out for a high 1st and then we sign a replacement through free agency. Get younger add picks then the overall this deal makes way more sense to me.
- mauryballstein


Edler won't waive his ntc, this has discussed to death. However, I wouldn't be surprised to see more trades along the line of Sbisa and or Pedan
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 26 @ 9:40 PM ET
I'm on the fence with JV...I've seen him out in the town a few too many times. Hopefully the org can reel in his partyside so we don't have Kassian 2.0 on our hands
- CanuckDon


Lets see what he brings to the table at training camp & forward.
1 offseason he should show he's made strides.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 26 @ 9:45 PM ET
Edler won't waive his ntc, this has discussed to death. However, I wouldn't be surprised to see more trades along the line of Sbisa and or Pedan
- allsports

Never say never. If we threaten to leave him exposed and/or tell him we are going full rebuild he might. I havent heard him say one way or the other.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 26 @ 9:49 PM ET
Edler won't waive his ntc, this has discussed to death. However, I wouldn't be surprised to see more trades along the line of Sbisa and or Pedan
- allsports


Ways to force an NTC to name teams.
I can see Pedan being shopped.
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

May 26 @ 9:50 PM ET
Never say never. If we threaten to leave him exposed and/or tell him we are going full rebuild he might. I havent heard him say one way or the other.
- mauryballstein


Expose him then. I'm sure given his laid back personality and lifestyle he'd love playing in Vegas. We're not going on full rebuild based on yesterday's trade. I'd rather see what we can actually do in terms of trades or picks picked up that are going to be possible this off season not in the way distant future.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 26 @ 9:51 PM ET
Expose him then. I'm sure given his laid back personality and lifestyle he'd love playing in Vegas. We're not going on full rebuild based on yesterday's trade. I'd rather see what we can actually do in terms of trades or picks picked up that are going to be possible this off season not in the way distant future.
- allsports



He's a Swede & all about lifestyle i think
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

May 26 @ 9:54 PM ET
Edler won't waive his ntc, this has discussed to death. However, I wouldn't be surprised to see more trades along the line of Sbisa and or Pedan
- allsports


"in the end i get to decide for myself. If a team wants a trade then you get to decide whether you want to play for a team that does not want you"- Alex Edler after the trade rumors of his terrible torts season. Doesnt sound like it would be as hard for him to waive as some are saying
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 26 @ 9:59 PM ET
I don't know much about this but Price and Sekeres were just on the 1040 about twenty minutes ago and came right out and said , even argued with a caller that there were more than a few Canuck players that did not like McCann.
- VANTEL


But everybody in the know knew that it was a matter of time before Jared slept with Thatchers girlfriend so they nipped it in the bud and shipped that future cancer out now before we were forced to trade a future Vezina canidate.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 26 @ 10:10 PM ET
Since July 1, 2015 Benning has traded....

Ryan Kesler
Hunter Shinkaruk
Adam Clendenning
Nick Jensen
Zack Kassian
2nd rd Pick
2nd rd Pick
4th rd Pick
5th rd Pick
6th rd Pick

for

Sven Baertschi
Linden Vey
Lucas Sbisa
Brandon Sutter
Markus Granlund
Erik Gudbranson
Emerson Etem
Philip Larsen
Brandon Prust
3rd rd Pick
5th rd Pick

- BINGO!


Fixed, honestly it doesn't look that bad of a list.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

May 26 @ 10:14 PM ET
Fixed, honestly it doesn't look that bad of a list.
- Pres.cup

There is another 2nd in there and Mallet and then Pedan on our side. Bieksa and Garrison moved out as well
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