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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks Acquire Erik Gudbranson From Florida for Jared McCann
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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 26 @ 2:19 PM ET
@Marwood regarding succession plan for Henrik.

To that I'd say look at Bo Horvat's development curve, he's 21 next year and had issues with top six minutes. This years prospect won't be ready to be in a top six role and Horvat is only a second line center, you're still without a number one guy and you just traded a kid you've developed for two years.

Benning took five dollars out of his left pocket and put it in his right and said he's feels better about his financial situation.

Both the center and defense need fixing. Free agency looks to be the only three year window chance they have for another top six center. A lot of luck involved there though.

- LeftCoaster


Do you believe McCann is a better player than Horvat? Do you believe he has a brighter future?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 26 @ 2:20 PM ET
You talk about his size and yet you name two kids who are smaller than him in Keller and Jost?
- LeftCoaster


Are you comparing Mccanns skill to Jost and Keller?
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 26 @ 2:21 PM ET
stormey
Location: it is Babsy turning a boy into a man - JL0961
Joined: 10.13.2005

May 26 @ 2:21 PM ET
High price to pay, but JB is filling the age gap left by the poor drafting between 2007-2011:

11th overall from 2007 (Sutter)
19th overall from 2008 (Sbisa)
3rd overall from 2010 (Gudbranson)
29th overall from 2010 (Etem)
13th overall from 2011 (Sven)
45th overall from 2011 (Granlund)

The Kesler trade alone has brought in 3 of these players, so while we debated JB's ability to trade, he has moved many pieces and the result is more promising than the original deal of Bonino/Sbisa/1st rounder IMO. The top end talent on the roster in a few years will have come from the draft

- WhiteLie

and has traded Kassian, Jensen, Shinkaruk and McCann. All former first round picks.
As well as a very servicable player in Bonino, a couple of second rounds and several later picks.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 26 @ 2:23 PM ET
None are great but all are young enough to potentially improve from their current levels. You cant have a team of all stars, but you need a team of NHL players which they are
- WhiteLie

Etem, Sbisa and granlund are not nhl players on a half decent team.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 26 @ 2:23 PM ET
Trade Horvat for Bozak most likely.
- belcherbd


only if benning throw in a 2nd
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 26 @ 2:23 PM ET
and has traded Kassian, Jensen, Shinkaruk and McCann. All former first round picks.
As well as a very servicable player in Bonino, a couple of second rounds and several later picks.

- stormey

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 26 @ 2:23 PM ET
I've asked this already but I am genuinely curious, what would you guys want the Canucks to do if Dubois is picked again 4? There seems to be an assumption Van will draft him, but if they can't would you guys want Nylander, Tkatchuk or a defenceman?
- BetterCallSaul


BPA Tkachuk or trade down & pick say a Jost or Brown if the right deal
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 26 @ 2:24 PM ET
@Marwood regarding succession plan for Henrik.

To that I'd say look at Bo Horvat's development curve, he's 21 next year and had issues with top six minutes. This years prospect won't be ready to be in a top six role and Horvat is only a second line center, you're still without a number one guy and you just traded a kid you've developed for two years.

Benning took five dollars out of his left pocket and put it in his right and said he's feels better about his financial situation.

Both the center and defense need fixing. Free agency looks to be the only three year window chance they have for another top six center. A lot of luck involved there though.

- LeftCoaster

I said this years draft because I think the twins will sign a short extension. Just a feeling.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 26 @ 2:24 PM ET
Well, we'll see how you feel about that when he leaves the front of his net to hit some guy in the corner leaving the goaltender to fend for himself. Happens all....the....time.....
- Panthers88


Great! He's going to fit in just fine.

I think JBs putting a lot into character. From what I've read not one person has questioned the kids character or locker room presence. Good with the media and fans alike.

With an aging core being shifted out maybe JB wants team-first players populating the room, especially during the inevitable hard times ahead.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 26 @ 2:25 PM ET
Great! He's going to fit in just fine.

I think JBs putting a lot into character. From what I've read not one person has questioned the kids character or locker room presence. Good with the media and fans alike.

With an aging core being shifted out maybe JB wants team-first players populating the room, especially during the inevitable hard times ahead.

- bloatedmosquito


Bang onπŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»
stormey
Location: it is Babsy turning a boy into a man - JL0961
Joined: 10.13.2005

May 26 @ 2:25 PM ET
Great! He's going to fit in just fine.

I think JBs putting a lot into character. From what I've read not one person has questioned the kids character or locker room presence. Good with the media and fans alike.

With an aging core being shifted out maybe JB wants team-first players populating the room, especially during the inevitable hard times ahead.

- bloatedmosquito

I'll give you that.
Apparently he was well respected in the rooms....and the ladies loved him.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

May 26 @ 2:26 PM ET
Defenseman 1:
6.05 216 lbs. 24 years old
43 pts in 309 games

Defenseman 2:
6.04 225, 27 years old (at the time of trade, plus couple lbs lighter)
35 pts in 215 games (at the time: 29 in 162)


Defenseman 1:
Acquired along with 5th for McCann and a 2nd, 4th
Defenseman 2:
Acquired for a bum and a 4th rd pick


In all seriousness, I just think Benning doesn't like 2nd round picks or something
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 26 @ 2:26 PM ET
I said this years draft because I think the twins will sign a short extension. Just a feeling.
- Marwood


I expect 1yr deals til they retire.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 26 @ 2:26 PM ET
Do you believe McCann is a better player than Horvat? Do you believe he has a brighter future?
- CanuckDon

I believe he's more offensively gifted and has just as good a chance at being a top six center as Horvat. He just doesn't have man-strength yet, Horvat does.

Look he's not small, he's bigger than Joe Sakic was, he just needs strength and I don't like trading away skilled centers when your organization has none.

You've asked me this twice now...do you get what I'm saying?
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 26 @ 2:27 PM ET
BPA Tkachuk or trade down & pick say a Jost or Brown if the right deal
- Nighthawk

I say Dubois. If he is gone see if we can trade with the flames maybe get a 2nd so they can take tkachuk. Then maybe trade again with buffalo for another 2nd so they can jump the coyotes to get the dman they want then at 8 we get 2 additional 2nd rounders and our choice between brown/sergachev/chychrun/joulevi(which of the 3 dmen are left)
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 26 @ 2:27 PM ET
I said this years draft because I think the twins will sign a short extension. Just a feeling.
- Marwood

I hope not
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 26 @ 2:28 PM ET
only if benning throw in a 2nd
- Tumbleweed


Ok but you need to throw in a 5th.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

May 26 @ 2:28 PM ET

- Marwood

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 26 @ 2:28 PM ET
@Marwood regarding succession plan for Henrik.

To that I'd say look at Bo Horvat's development curve, he's 21 next year and had issues with top six minutes. This years prospect won't be ready to be in a top six role and Horvat is only a second line center, you're still without a number one guy and you just traded a kid you've developed for two years.

Benning took five dollars out of his left pocket and put it in his right and said he's feels better about his financial situation.

Both the center and defense need fixing. Free agency looks to be the only three year window chance they have for another top six center. A lot of luck involved there though.

- LeftCoaster

It sounds like you actually expect the Sedins to be gone after 2 years. I say 4 more years.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 26 @ 2:28 PM ET
I said this years draft because I think the twins will sign a short extension. Just a feeling.
- Marwood

i think so too. could see them doing 1 year deals until they just dont wana play anymore.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 26 @ 2:29 PM ET
I've asked this already but I am genuinely curious, what would you guys want the Canucks to do if Dubois is picked again 4? There seems to be an assumption Van will draft him, but if they can't would you guys want Nylander, Tkatchuk or a defenceman?
- BetterCallSaul


Totally off subject:

Just started watching Breaking Bad on Netflix. Saul Goodman just introduced.

I can't believe I didn't give it the time of day when it first aired. Incredible show. I don't know what's going to happen so really enjoying it.

Anyway, good name and avatar.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

May 26 @ 2:30 PM ET
Trade Horvat for Bozak most likely.
- belcherbd



Couldn't we just get draft picks from you?
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 26 @ 2:30 PM ET
Totally off subject:

Just started watching Breaking Bad on Netflix. Saul Goodman just introduced.

I can't believe I didn't give it the time of day when it first aired. Incredible show. I don't know what's going to happen so really enjoying it.

Anyway, good name and avatar.

- bloatedmosquito

great show was very addicting
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 26 @ 2:30 PM ET
It sounds like you actually expect the Sedins to be gone after 2 years. I say 4 more years.
- VANTEL

Please no
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