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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks Acquire Erik Gudbranson From Florida for Jared McCann
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LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 26 @ 6:06 PM ET
The Oilers model of building through the draft only is not sound. Unlike you, JB doesnt seem to think McCann has a good shot at replacing Henrik so that puts him into the log jam at C. Using him to acquire a young RD was something many felt was probably going to happen. Those people got a good read on the situation.

I just don't see JM being a 1 C that is going to be competitive in the West. 2nd C maybe... but we have Horvat and Sutter now.

With the draft just a few weeks away, Dubois will very likely be available and more of a type we want and if not,,, I still like Tkachuck as a winger over McCann which is what the scouts and GM's seem to think JM is better suited for.

After how many times you told me you don't think Sam Reinhart has top line potential because of foot speed... I'm going to have to say they have a better eye for this than you.

- boonerbuck

But that's what this board is for, to express our uneducated opinions

Booner…I'm not as wound up as it may seem, and truthfully, it's not really about the players per say, it's about the process. They're trying to cut corners and IMO it's just not the right way to go about it.

Benning is trying to find value where ever he can with pickups like Etem, Baertschi, Vey, Sutter, Sbisa, Granlund, Pedan etc. he's traded for all these guys and IMO only Baertschi and Sutter made them a better team. But the cost of acquiring these guys is a lot of picks.

And for the record, I stand by my statement that Sam Reinhart is still not a top six guy until his skating improves, which it can, Gaunce proved that to me. Almost half of his points last year where produced on the PP, he had 24 even strength points with 17 minutes of ice-time a game on average…oh and his face-off percentage was 33%.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 26 @ 6:07 PM ET
. . .
- DeflatedPucks

flashbacks to the milbury led isles era.

edit - I'm not suggesting the canucks are that bad, or that badly managed, more that I remember trying to find a silver lining around a turd.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

May 26 @ 6:07 PM ET
It's a beaut alright
- walshyleafsfan



the rest of the NHL will be licking their chops...
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

May 26 @ 6:08 PM ET
22yr old RHD is worth a shot at reclamation.
Tanev was not drafted.

- Nighthawk

Jesus man.

Ability levels don't seem to register with you at all.

Just someone under 25 and right handed. There's a pool of about 4 billion people that qualify.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

May 26 @ 6:09 PM ET
Done!

I would have done this deal any day of the week.

McCann has youth and potential but did not shine for two shifts in a row all season.

I like this trend.... building from the Net out.

Besides... it's obvious now Vancouver will be drafting a forward OR they feel they have more than enough to cover McCann's loss.

McCann's can be replaced. Gudbranson is a huge-dman and a top 4 or 2 pairing... not an easy find.

I agree with Willie Mitchell "WTF!"
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 26 @ 6:09 PM ET
Jesus man.

Ability levels don't seem to register with you at all.

Just someone under 25 and right handed. There's a pool of about 4 billion people that qualify.

- walshyleafsfan

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 26 @ 6:09 PM ET
Single biggest problem the team has, ownership mandating they spend and win now!
- LeftCoaster


Don't you hate it when the owner tells his GM to go out and try to build a winner.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 26 @ 6:10 PM ET
Jesus man.

Ability levels don't seem to register with you at all.

Just someone under 25 and right handed. There's a pool of about 4 billion people that qualify.

- walshyleafsfan


I'm a righty, and have good size.


Based on my career so far, I can best be described as "stay at home".


I'm exactly what Benning is looking for!!!
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 26 @ 6:10 PM ET
flashbacks to the milbury led isles era.

edit - I'm not suggesting the canucks are that bad, or that badly managed, more that I remember trying to find a silver lining around a turd.

- Isles_since_6


Milbury takes the cake & hard to beat 😜😂
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 26 @ 6:10 PM ET
Don't you hate it when the owner tells his GM to go out and try to build a winner.
- VANTEL

Yes….when they try to rush something that can't be rushed!
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 26 @ 6:10 PM ET
Don't you hate it when the owner tells his GM to go out and try to build a winner.
- VANTEL

It’s worse when the owner tells the gm to sell off everything and put a sumo wrestler in net
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 26 @ 6:10 PM ET
Done!

I would have done this deal any day of the week.

McCann has youth and potential but did not shine for two shifts in a row all season.

I like this trend.... building from the Net out.

Besides... it's obvious now Vancouver will be drafting a forward OR they feel they have more than enough to cover McCann's loss.

McCann's can be replaced. Gudbranson is a huge-dman and a top 4 or 2 pairing.

- Beatle_john

golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 26 @ 6:11 PM ET
But that's what this board is for, to express our uneducated opinions

Booner…I'm not as wound up as it may seem, and truthfully, it's not really about the players per say, it's about the process. They're trying to cut corners and IMO it's just not the right way to go about it.

Benning is trying to find value where ever he can with pickups like Etem, Baertschi, Vey, Sutter, Sbisa, Granlund, Pedan etc. he's traded for all these guys and IMO only Baertschi and Sutter made them a better team. But the cost of acquiring these guys is a lot of picks.

And for the record, I stand by my statement that Sam Reinhart is still not a top six guy until his skating improves, which it can, Gaunce proved that to me. Almost half of his points last year where produced on the PP, he had 24 even strength points with 17 minutes of ice-time a game on average…oh and his face-off percentage was 33%.

- LeftCoaster

Dude, you sound just like potential Canucks management.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 26 @ 6:11 PM ET
Jesus man.

Ability levels don't seem to register with you at all.

Just someone under 25 and right handed. There's a pool of about 4 billion people that qualify.

- walshyleafsfan


Minor league D r needed.
4b? Geez & the Leafs cannot find any?
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

May 26 @ 6:12 PM ET
flashbacks to the milbury led isles era.

edit - I'm not suggesting the canucks are that bad, or that badly managed, more that I remember trying to find a silver lining around a turd.

- Isles_since_6

They (not all) literally won't be told. They say it's just trolling. WTF does a Penguins, Islanders, Jets, Blue Jackets, and 24 (excluding Leafs) other fan bases have to gain in trolling the Nucks. Every more JB has made the majority loves them. If only you could take Leafs fans comments from 2005-14 and put them side by side with Nucks fans comments, they'd be nearly identical.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

May 26 @ 6:12 PM ET

- lumlums


DUDE!!!! Thats an obvious one.

He is Kevin Beiska 8 years ago....
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 26 @ 6:13 PM ET
I'm a righty, and have good size.


Based on my career so far, I can best be described as "stay at home".


I'm exactly what Benning is looking for!!!

- lumlums


The Leafs r calling for all to tryout. GL👍🏻
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 26 @ 6:13 PM ET
DUDE!!!! Thats an obvious one.

He is Kevin Beiska 8 years ago....

- Beatle_john


You just made Booner's day.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

May 26 @ 6:14 PM ET
Minor league D r needed.
4b? Geez & the Leafs cannot find any?

- Nighthawk

Exactly. But we haven't been harping on about under 25 RHD constantly
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

May 26 @ 6:14 PM ET
They (not all) literally won't be told. They say it's just trolling. WTF does a Penguins, Islanders, Jets, Blue Jackets, and 24 (excluding Leafs) other fan bases have to gain in trolling the Nucks. Every more JB has made the majority loves them. If only you could take Leafs fans comments from 2005-14 and put them side by side with Nucks fans comments, they'd be nearly identical.
- walshyleafsfan


Hey --- whatever makes you sleep better at night but that some top grade BS there.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

May 26 @ 6:14 PM ET
The Leafs r calling for all to tryout. GL👍🏻
- Nighthawk

Not enough contract space. You guys need more under 25 RHD men I've heard
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

May 26 @ 6:16 PM ET
Hey --- whatever makes you sleep better at night but that some top grade BS there.
- Beatle_john

Hey bud, where have you been?

We've had Spatso take over your late shift in the Leafs thread.

We take it all back BJ
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

May 26 @ 6:16 PM ET
I totally agree with Willie Mitchell's comment "WTF"

We in Vancouver have the same reaction to McCann except "WTF" = Win The Faceoff --- which he never ever did.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 26 @ 6:16 PM ET
Dude, you sound just like potential Canucks management.
- golfingsince

Stop calling me dude then







VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 26 @ 6:16 PM ET
The problem is that Gudbranson may or may not actually be a top 4 level D-man... not on a good team anyway.
- lumlums

His line mate WTF
His goalie WTF
His team mates WTF

Although I know everyone here is an expert , when I see his team shocked and openly expressing sadness to see him go, I will take their word over anyone here about the type of player he is
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