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sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

May 26 @ 3:35 PM ET
haha i know, i was only being sarcastic to poke fun. i think neilson would be a good fit. he would also be able to help free up coots for other chances as well.

appreciate it. my stomach has the most uneasy feeling.

- stayinthefnnet


at least your home, and the goalie controversy is laid to rest after Murray kept you guys alive. i gotta say im surprised it reached game 7. no bishop and you guys being the hottest team since the blackhawks in 2013, very surprised they beat you in game 5. hopefully its a good one tonight tho and not one like last night in SJ, although im sure you would take it, haha
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 26 @ 3:36 PM ET
5 mil per would almost be double his last contract, i agree though that in this day and age it may need to go that high. he does bring a lot of elements, and its really important that he still hasnt shown any signs of declining at 32, which makes me all the more confident of handing out 3 years as opposed to 2.

I would like to add Sceviour too but im secretly hoping konecny wows everyone and takes that 3rd line winger spot, maybe even a top 6 winger spot, pull a drouin possibly.

the main thing here is Hexy has us set up where the cap wont be a deterrent for us to sign someone, he has managed it as well as any executive in the whole league over the past 2 years.

- sjk540


what did carl soderberg get from the avs? i dont think hes an awful comparison. although id put neilsen as a nudge ahead.
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

May 26 @ 3:36 PM ET
50-50 I think on ConnectKnees. If he's ready, sure, I'd love to add him. That means Raffl or Schenn or Konecny would be on the third line. That'd be like Kessel on the third now though. It isn't a demotion, just ridiculous depth.
- Mononoke


exactly right
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

May 26 @ 3:38 PM ET
what did carl soderberg get from the avs? i dont think hes an awful comparison. although id put neilsen as a nudge ahead.
- stayinthefnnet


according to NESN was a 4.75 per for 5 years. hes also younger than Neilsen so the extra term probably dropped the AAV. so yea, maybe 5 mil is right on it.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 26 @ 3:38 PM ET
at least your home, and the goalie controversy is laid to rest after Murray kept you guys alive. i gotta say im surprised it reached game 7. no bishop and you guys being the hottest team since the blackhawks in 2013, very surprised they beat you in game 5. hopefully its a good one tonight tho and not one like last night in SJ, although im sure you would take it, haha
- sjk540


i mean no slight against TB. they are legit. they are extremely deep. they dont even miss bishop because vaselievsky is such a stud and on his game right now. but the pens full on had 0 urgency for games 4 and 5. utter joke. should have never been in this situation.

tampa can totally go in there and walk out with a win. but yeah. ill certainly sign up for the pens walking out with a 4 goal win haha. i dont need style points. and fleury did a lot of good for the franchise. but i will be fine if i never see him in the net again for the team.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 26 @ 3:39 PM ET
according to NESN was a 4.75 per for 5 years. hes also younger than Neilsen so the extra term probably dropped the AAV. so yea, maybe 5 mil is right on it.
- sjk540

yeah i think thats a reasonably expectation.
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

May 26 @ 3:57 PM ET
Nah, I'm sure they have people for that.

I remember the Eagles had paid interns who did nothing but listen and take notes on WIP everyday.

- mayorofangrytown


Jesus, that's worse than doing time @ Graterford.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 26 @ 4:04 PM ET
i mean no slight against TB. they are legit. they are extremely deep. they dont even miss bishop because vaselievsky is such a stud and on his game right now. but the pens full on had 0 urgency for games 4 and 5. utter joke. should have never been in this situation.

tampa can totally go in there and walk out with a win. but yeah. ill certainly sign up for the pens walking out with a 4 goal win haha. i dont need style points. and fleury did a lot of good for the franchise. but i will be fine if i never see him in the net again for the team.

- stayinthefnnet


CINDY CRYSBY
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 26 @ 4:06 PM ET
CINDY CRYSBY
- jmatchett383


GTFO of here already
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 26 @ 4:11 PM ET
GTFO of here already
- stayinthefnnet


THE NHL WANTS THE PENGUINS AND CINDY TO WIN!!!

CRYSBY IS SUCH A WHINER AND A DIVER!!!
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

May 26 @ 4:12 PM ET
Pierre loves this blob....why are Pitts and Tampons debating in this blob?
countreeman28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.10.2007

May 26 @ 4:17 PM ET
I love Kent Manderville. I will never forgive Bob Clarke for trading him to Pittsburgh for Billy Tibbetts. The horror, the horror.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 26 @ 4:17 PM ET
THE NHL WANTS THE PENGUINS AND CINDY TO WIN!!!

CRYSBY IS SUCH A WHINER AND A DIVER!!!

- jmatchett383


cant wait until they put their fate even out of the tender protecting hands of uncle gary when they roof the puck into the third level 4 times in 2 minutes.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 26 @ 4:28 PM ET
I guess it's asking too much to upgrade over sacred cow Vandevelde
- Just5


They have to be looking at that -- I'm not even worried

I always admire guys like VDV, who come in and create a role for themselves. But like the Kent Mandervilles and Jody Hulls of the world, you have to know when to fold them

This game continues to evolve. I would never have imagined, so many years ago, that the game would be what it has been at various points of time

But right now, skating and puck possession are at a premium. You have to be able to move, you have to be able to suppress shots or generate them

The model of the "trustworthy fourth line that doesn't hurt you" -- the game is evolving past that. They have to be able to do something tangible, something that is more than chemistry

Someone mentioned the Madden-Brylin-Pandolfo line. That's the kind of line you have to be looking for every seasons, and I can still admire VDV for playing in the NHL and still acknowledge that he is a player who the Flyers absolutely should be looking to upgrade -- it shouldn't even be a question
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 26 @ 4:29 PM ET
THE NHL WANTS THE PENGUINS AND CINDY TO WIN!!!

CRYSBY IS SUCH A WHINER AND A DIVER!!!

- jmatchett383

Yes. Yes. You told Brandt on the phone. And Brandt told me.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

May 26 @ 4:33 PM ET
I hope Tampa wears #91 patches on their chest to inspire them.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 26 @ 4:46 PM ET
cant wait until they put their fate even out of the tender protecting hands of uncle gary when they roof the puck into the third level 4 times in 2 minutes.
- stayinthefnnet


Uncle Gary will come down with the "newest" version of the rulebook which the league forgot to send to the refs prior to the game. The new one is just like the existing one, but has red sharpie omitting that rule.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 26 @ 4:51 PM ET
OCD?
Autism?

- Scoob


Leave Crims out of this
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 26 @ 4:54 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: VandeVelde, Wheat Kings, Zezel and More
- bmeltzer


I've been pretty spoiled for decade in terms of having pretty decent 4th line players. The current 4th line is probably the worst I've ever seen in all my years as a fan. I'm counting the days, the minutes, the seconds for Vandevelde's release from this team.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 26 @ 5:11 PM ET
Jesus, that's worse than doing time @ Graterford.
- flyguy12

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 26 @ 5:13 PM ET
You are all getting soft.

Sickening.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

May 26 @ 5:14 PM ET
Leave Crims out of this
- PhillySportsGuy


better to berate crim than talk penguins
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 26 @ 5:42 PM ET
better to berate crim than talk penguins
- -davies-

Preach!!!!
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 26 @ 5:42 PM ET
You are all getting soft.

Sickening.

- flyer_nutter

You're wrong! I'm still a complete bastard...
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

May 26 @ 6:11 PM ET
You are all getting soft.

Sickening.

- flyer_nutter

I'm now firmly in the Sanjose camp for the remainder of the playoffs.
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