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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 26 @ 3:31 PM ET
The kid hasn't put the Nucks jersey on yet or played a minute of hockey with his new team and him wanting more money is gonna kill them? What if he has a tremendous season, (not as great as Hamilton or GR of course:lol
It amazes me that NHL GM's don't throw out a trade on Hockey Buzz to see what kind of approval rating they get

- nyisles7

They're a rebuilding team that traded their highest 2nd round pick, and another, for a likely career bottom pairing defender that is going to end up getting $5M+ a year, long term AND traded one of their best young/cheap players to facilitate the trade.

That's not really conducive to rebuilding a successful team. Imagine if Snow traded Anders Lee, a 2nd rounder and a 4th rounder for Luke Schenn? That would have gone swimmingly.
roadworker
New York Islanders
Location: Hicksville, NY
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 26 @ 3:32 PM ET
If we can make one very good Dman Pickup it would huge
Leddy, Boychuck, Hamonic, UFA, Hickey and Pelech/DeHaan. would be nice defense.

I think DeHaan could be good trading chip for us. I was very disappointed with him in playoffs. Another coach could probably help him find his potential. cappy is not that guy.

- Spartiarti


My biggest worry will be what is Hamonics family member gets worse and then he decides he wants a trade again.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 26 @ 3:32 PM ET
They're a rebuilding team that traded their highest 2nd round pick, and another, for a likely career bottom pairing defender that is going to end up getting $5M+ a year, long term AND traded one of their best young/cheap players to facilitate the trade.

That's not really conducive to rebuilding a successful team. Imagine if Snow traded Anders Lee, a 2nd rounder and a 4th rounder for Luke Schenn? That would have gone swimmingly.

- eichiefs9

Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 26 @ 3:36 PM ET
My biggest worry will be what is Hamonics family member gets worse and then he decides he wants a trade again.
- roadworker


I seriously doubt he pulls that card twice. That's a one shot deal. Find something else to worry about
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 26 @ 3:36 PM ET

- mdw7413

nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 26 @ 3:36 PM ET
I don't know how anybody can judge this deal now instead of waiting a few years to see. As far as GR goes yeah right now it looks good for the isles but if you have to wait and see with these big young D-men like everybody on here is saying then doesn't that hold true for GR as well?
- Vukota


I though GR was a bust when we picked him at#5. Never liked him.
Saw him play on the OK's and at Bridgeport and every time I did, he didn't impress me. I thought he was slow but Again just my opinion.
And of course you need to wait on defensemen in general.
Even the forwards need to learn the defensive side of the game which is most young players achilles heel.
I just don't think looking at resent trades of young DMan the price was outlandish.
Also I think you said yesterday it also depends on what your team needs and whats available.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 26 @ 3:37 PM ET
I though GR was a bust when we picked him at#5. Never liked him.
Saw him play on the OK's and at Bridgeport and every time I did, he didn't impress me. I thought he was slow but Again just my opinion.
And of course you need to wait on defensemen in general.
Even the forwards need to learn the defensive side of the game which is most young players achilles heel.
I just don't think looking at resent trades of young DMan the price was outlandish.
Also I think you said yesterday it also depends on what your team needs and whats available.

- nyisles7



I sure hope he is
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 26 @ 3:39 PM ET

- mdw7413

Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 26 @ 3:39 PM ET

- eichiefs9


Reset the play clock?
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 26 @ 3:40 PM ET

- eichiefs9

mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 26 @ 3:40 PM ET
Reset the play clock?
- Vukota

nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 26 @ 3:47 PM ET
They're a rebuilding team that traded their highest 2nd round pick, and another, for a likely career bottom pairing defender that is going to end up getting $5M+ a year, long term AND traded one of their best young/cheap players to facilitate the trade.

That's not really conducive to rebuilding a successful team. Imagine if Snow traded Anders Lee, a 2nd rounder and a 4th rounder for Luke Schenn? That would have gone swimmingly.

- eichiefs9


He's top 4 Dman now and will be in the future maybe top 2. He's a shutdown guy. We will agree to disagree about him.

So McCann is Lee and Luke Schenn is Guddy?
Wow I have to give you credit you are very creative!
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 26 @ 3:47 PM ET
well would you look at the timing

http://www.todaysslapshot...mediate-dividends-oilers/
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 26 @ 3:47 PM ET
well would you look at the timing

http://www.todaysslapshot...mediate-dividends-oilers/

- eichiefs9

Crazy
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 26 @ 3:48 PM ET
He's top 4 Dman now and will be in the future maybe top 2. He's a shutdown guy. We will agree to disagree about him.

So McCann is Lee and Luke Schenn is Guddy?
Wow I have to give you credit you are very creative!

- nyisles7

It was an example and one that's not that far off. Not sure what's "creative" about that. Lee was at one point a raw but promising young player that had relative success early on in the NHL. Schenn and Gudbranson were both top-5 picks that were bigger "stay at home defenseman". It's not really all that much of a stretch to make those comparisons.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 26 @ 3:48 PM ET
I sure hope he is
- Vukota


Well I never hope anyone is a bust but I do hope Bazal and Buellivier turn out to be great for us !
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 26 @ 3:48 PM ET

- mdw7413


I didn't think Chief would get it because he is one of the few male's on this earth who doesn't like football
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 26 @ 3:50 PM ET
Crazy
- Vukota



mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 26 @ 3:51 PM ET
I didn't think Chief would get it because he is one of the few male's on this earth who doesn't like football
- Vukota


Doesn't like football, loves cats, hangs out in jorts and mesh half shirts at truck stops, likes fire island...................... I'm detecting a pattern here...
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 26 @ 3:51 PM ET
It was an example and one that's not that far off. Not sure what's "creative" about that. Lee was at one point a raw but promising young player that had relative success early on in the NHL. Schenn and Gudbranson were both top-5 picks that were bigger "stay at home defenseman". It's not really all that much of a stretch to make those comparisons.
- eichiefs9


That example sucked !

Lee scored 30 goals in a season already and is big!
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 26 @ 3:53 PM ET
Doesn't like football, loves cats, hangs out in jorts and mesh half shirts at truck stops, likes fire island...................... I'm detecting a pattern here...
- mdw7413

Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

May 26 @ 3:54 PM ET
Let's not forget the nucks failed to trade Vrbata at the deadline
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 26 @ 3:54 PM ET
Doesn't like football, loves cats, hangs out in jorts and mesh half shirts at truck stops, likes fire island...................... I'm detecting a pattern here...
- mdw7413



eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 26 @ 3:55 PM ET
That example sucked !
- nyisles7

your face sucked
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 26 @ 3:55 PM ET
I didn't think Chief would get it because he is one of the few male's on this earth who doesn't like football
- Vukota

When the (frank) did I ever say I don't like football?

You may be confusing that with basketball. I'd rather watch my parents (frank) than watch 10 minutes of any basketball game ever.
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