Thats not a good risk/reward sorry. You cant sign a guy to the biggest contract in the league on what ifs.
- kindlyrick

I think you are completely misunderstanding what I'm saying.

1st, horrible contract, not going to defend it.
2nd, Gomez is not as bad a player as people make him out to be.

I'm separating the 2. Most people can't, like you are doing now. When anyone brings up that he was a decent player, you go right to the contract.

Maybe FLA didn't want to add salary...?? They are already 3 deep at C
- Ur Not Me

The Oilers like the Isles are rife with prospects and picks, and both trying to build a winner. You're not going to "win trades" on paper, but you just gotta address your needs.

I think you are completely misunderstanding what I'm saying.

1st, horrible contract, not going to defend it.
2nd, Gomez is not as bad a player as people make him out to be.

I'm separating the 2. Most people can't, like you are doing now. When anyone brings up that he was a decent player, you go right to the contract.
- mdw7413

Lets get right to the source here.......I am saying he is that bad. Lazy, and soft....always was.

Lets get right to the source here.......I am saying he is that bad. Lazy, and soft....always was.
- kindlyrick

Matter of opinion.

If we can make one very good Dman Pickup it would huge
Leddy, Boychuck, Hamonic, UFA, Hickey and Pelech/DeHaan. would be nice defense.

I think DeHaan could be good trading chip for us. I was very disappointed with him in playoffs. Another coach could probably help him find his potential. cappy is not that guy.

Matter of opinion.
- Wildschwein

Hence "I am saying"

If we can make one very good Dman Pickup it would huge
Leddy, Boychuck, Hamonic, UFA, Hickey and Pelech/DeHaan. would be nice defense.

I think DeHaan could be good trading chip for us. I was very disappointed with him in playoffs. Another coach could probably help him find his potential. cappy is not that guy.
- Spartiarti

Im not so sure what kinda value has around the league. He's like one shoulder seperation away from calling it quits. (not literal).

Like all trades we shall see... Gudbranson is still pretty young (24 ish?) and will bet better IMO. He was already pretty solid stay home d-man. If He gets better over the next couple of years he may be a steal.

How did you feel about the Seth Jones trade? (not being a Richard.. just asking)
- niteislander

Seth jones trade was a fair trade. Also Gubranson is in his walk year

Just out of curiosity.....how can you make the assumption that a 24 year old dman has zero offensive upside? Thats just silly. Furthermore, big minute eating dman are a lot harder to come by than talented wingers.
- kindlyrick

He has been in the league 5 years, his top total is 13 points. The game for better or worse has moved away from "stay at home dmen" you have to bring more to the table and while I really like Gubranson. I'm simply not paying that much for this type of dmen in his walk year.. That's all

Im not comparing him to Chara, but lets be honest.....Chara's first 4 season didnt have him winning the Norris with his 10 pts seasons......and then VOILA, a little age a little experience etc, and hes a norris winner. You cant say a 24 year old dman has zero offensive upside....it literally makes no sense.
- kindlyrick

This is not the same league as it was 10 even 5 years ago

He has been in the league 5 years, his top total is 13 points. The game for better or worse has moved away from "stay at home dmen" you have to bring more to the table and while I really like Gubranson. I'm simply not paying that much for this type of dmen in his walk year.. That's all
- Dan Petriw

Is there really a difference between 4 years and 5 years???? The point is that you simply cannot say that a 24 year old defensemen has zero offensive upside.

This is not the same league as it was 10 even 5 years ago
- Dan Petriw

What does that even mean? The point was that Chara didnt develope until a few years into his career. So the same can go for Gudbranson.

What does that even mean? The point was that Chara didnt develope until a few years into his career. So the same can go for Gudbranson.
- kindlyrick

Let's just move on

Let's just move on
- Dan Petriw

Ha ok

Let's just move on
- Dan Petriw

Joel Ward last night with 2 goals in another big game. And he almost had the empty netter. The guy is just a big game player. Always scores goals in the big game. Too bad he wasnt scooped up by the isles.

Joel Ward last night with 2 goals in another big game. And he almost had the empty netter. The guy is just a big game player. Always scores goals in the big game. Too bad he wasnt scooped up by the isles.
- kindlyrick

This we agree on

If we can make one very good Dman Pickup it would huge
Leddy, Boychuck, Hamonic, UFA, Hickey and Pelech/DeHaan. would be nice defense.

I think DeHaan could be good trading chip for us. I was very disappointed with him in playoffs. Another coach could probably help him find his potential. cappy is not that guy.
- Spartiarti

Perhaps you are forgetting the new guy, Pulock? He's pretty good.

Seth jones trade was a fair trade. Also Gubranson is in his walk year
- Dan Petriw[/quote]

true.. but RFA I believe.. u might be right but I really liked Gud and am happy to not have him on Fla anymore.. go West young man.

Perhaps you are forgetting the new guy, Pulock? He's pretty good.
- David_Volek

can you please make sure Isles coach is aware of this.. ty

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One reason #FlaPanthers traded Erik Gudbranson: told he turned down four year deal worth $4.5m per before taking one-year bridge at $3.5.

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One reason #FlaPanthers traded Erik Gudbranson: told he turned down four year deal worth $4.5m per before taking one-year bridge at $3.5.
- Vukota

Should probably fire his agent

for the record.. i don't dislike Gubranson... i would just never trade that much for him
- Dan Petriw

Guys a big top 4 / 2 Dman playing 20 plus mins a game. Not gonna get that for peanuts and a coke. Fact is top four young Dman are hardly traded. I don't mind what they gave up he's a stud and play a big role in Vancouver.
Just have to wait and see how it turns out for each team

Guys a big top 4 / 2 Dman playing 20 plus mins a game. Not gonna get that for peanuts and a coke. Fact is top four young Dman are hardly traded. I don't mind what they gave up he's a stud and play a big role in Vancouver.
Just have to wait and see how it turns out for each team
- nyisles7

There wasn't one traded here

There wasn't one traded here
- eichiefs9

He will be in Vancouver.

There wasn't one traded here
- eichiefs9

GR wasn't even in the NHL and look what the Oilers gave up for him. Truth is Big young Dman rarely get traded.