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ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 26 @ 10:54 AM ET
I think Nash is a better player than Gomez ever was. When the Rangers signed Gomez for 8 million a year, i wanna say he was coming off a 12 goal season. Bananas!!!!
- kindlyrick


Still a lousy deal for the Habs.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 26 @ 10:56 AM ET
I think Nash is a better player than Gomez ever was. When the Rangers signed Gomez for 8 million a year, i wanna say he was coming off a 12 goal season. Bananas!!!!
- kindlyrick


Well Gomez was never really a goal scorer, except I believe 1 year with the Devils. Way more of a set up guy. Had somewhere around 60 pts the year before the Rangers signed him and I think around 70 pts the 1st year with the Rangers. Not defending the contract , but I think he wasn't as bad as people remember.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 26 @ 11:04 AM ET
Well Gomez was never really a goal scorer, except I believe 1 year with the Devils. Way more of a set up guy. Had somewhere around 60 pts the year before the Rangers signed him and I think around 70 pts the 1st year with the Rangers. Not defending the contract , but I think he wasn't as bad as people remember.
- mdw7413


He was more of a setup guy and he was a nice player, but the Rangers paid him as a big goal scorer. They overpaid Holik as well.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

May 26 @ 11:05 AM ET
Well Gomez was never really a goal scorer, except I believe 1 year with the Devils. Way more of a set up guy. Had somewhere around 60 pts the year before the Rangers signed him and I think around 70 pts the 1st year with the Rangers. Not defending the contract , but I think he wasn't as bad as people remember.
- mdw7413


He wasn't bad, no. Just the contract.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 26 @ 11:09 AM ET
He was more of a setup guy and he was a nice player, but the Rangers paid him as a big goal scorer. They overpaid Holik as well.
- ses111

Never forget

ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 26 @ 11:14 AM ET
Never forget


- eichiefs9




Some of those signing alone should have made Neil Smith try to stick it out a little longer with the committee thing.
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

May 26 @ 11:23 AM ET
Anyone see the Friedmen report on St Louis being upset with Tarasenko? If they move him over hitch they are stupid
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 26 @ 11:29 AM ET
Anyone see the Friedmen report on St Louis being upset with Tarasenko? If they move him over hitch they are stupid
- Danformo

What report was that?
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 26 @ 11:39 AM ET
What report was that?
- eichiefs9


He was just speculating that they might not be happy with him in one of his daily columns
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 26 @ 11:40 AM ET
Never forget


- eichiefs9

Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 26 @ 11:43 AM ET
Brett Cyrgalis ‏@BrettCyrgalis 14s14 seconds ago
#Isles sked includes first preseason game vs. #NYR since 2007 - Oct. 4 in Brooklyn. 1 game in B'port. Coliseum obviously not ready yet.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 26 @ 11:47 AM ET
He was just speculating that they might not be happy with him in one of his daily columns
- Vukota

Oh well in that case, better offer up Bailey and a conditional 2019 3rd
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 26 @ 11:50 AM ET
Brett Cyrgalis ‏@BrettCyrgalis 14s14 seconds ago
#Isles sked includes first preseason game vs. #NYR since 2007 - Oct. 4 in Brooklyn. 1 game in B'port. Coliseum obviously not ready yet.

- Vukota


I thought for sure the Coli would be ready?
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

May 26 @ 11:50 AM ET
Well Gomez was never really a goal scorer, except I believe 1 year with the Devils. Way more of a set up guy. Had somewhere around 60 pts the year before the Rangers signed him and I think around 70 pts the 1st year with the Rangers. Not defending the contract , but I think he wasn't as bad as people remember.
- mdw7413



That 8 million dollar a year contract was roughly around the leagues top paid guys at the time. Mind you all for an assist guy. I cant, but maybe you can recall when an NHL player was paid in the upper echelon for assists alone?
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

May 26 @ 11:52 AM ET
Never forget


- eichiefs9



The Holik contract was the worst of all of them. He was basically same numbers as Mike Peca who got 5 million a year.....and the Rags come in and scoop Holik for 10 million a season for a shut down center. Deplorable.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 26 @ 11:54 AM ET
That 8 million dollar a year contract was roughly around the leagues top paid guys at the time. Mind you all for an assist guy. I cant, but maybe you can recall when an NHL player was paid in the upper echelon for assists alone?
- kindlyrick


Thats why I said in my post I'm not defending the contract. Not saying you did it, but I think a lot of people forget Gomez was actually a pretty decent player. It gets lost because of the contract. Also I will defend that signing everyday of the week. Without we don't get McDonagh.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

May 26 @ 11:54 AM ET
That 8 million dollar a year contract was roughly around the leagues top paid guys at the time. Mind you all for an assist guy. I cant, but maybe you can recall when an NHL player was paid in the upper echelon for assists alone?
- kindlyrick



Backstrom currently and I believe Savard from Bruins
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 26 @ 11:55 AM ET
The Holik contract was the worst of all of them. He was basically same numbers as Mike Peca who got 5 million a year.....and the Rags come in and scoop Holik for 10 million a season for a shut down center. Deplorable.
- kindlyrick

Yeah but can anyone else do this?

mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 26 @ 11:56 AM ET
The Holik contract was the worst of all of them. He was basically same numbers as Mike Peca who got 5 million a year.....and the Rags come in and scoop Holik for 10 million a season for a shut down center. Deplorable.
- kindlyrick



Yup, way worse than the Gomez contract.

I'm just glad they finally learned don't go crazy in free agency
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 26 @ 11:57 AM ET
Yup, way worse than the Gomez contract.

I'm just glad they finally learned don't go crazy in free agency

- mdw7413


Holik probably fainted when he heard what the Rangers were willing to pay him.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

May 26 @ 11:58 AM ET
Thats why I said in my post I'm not defending the contract. Not saying you did it, but I think a lot of people forget Gomez was actually a pretty decent player. It gets lost because of the contract. Also I will defend that signing everyday of the week. Without we don't get McDonagh.
- mdw7413



Well then this is where we disagree......define a pretty decent player? 13 goals is not a decent player.....thats bottom 6 forward numbers. Yes he had wheels, but that does not mean he was a pretty decent player all around. Obviously I know you're not saying i signed the contract......im just saying it was a shameful contract for a guy who left a rival team for an absurd contract. I also truly believe that money was given under the table in the Mcdonough deal.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

May 26 @ 12:00 PM ET
Yeah but can anyone else do this?


- eichiefs9




Wow, thats pretty laughable. He's not even embaressed...
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 26 @ 12:00 PM ET
Nice all preseason games are in the division Rangers 2x Flyers 2x Devils 2x Caps 2x

http://islanders.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=884046
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

May 26 @ 12:05 PM ET
Backstrom currently and I believe Savard from Bruins
- Ur Not Me



I think the Gomez contract at the time was the highest in the NHL. Backstrom is a bigger producer and makes what 7 million.....thats 3-4 shmill less than the top paid guys. Savard makes 4 milliion i think.......so neither example compare to the abomination of Gomez.
Mancalledsting
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 26 @ 12:08 PM ET
Brett Cyrgalis ‏@BrettCyrgalis 14s14 seconds ago
#Isles sked includes first preseason game vs. #NYR since 2007 - Oct. 4 in Brooklyn. 1 game in B'port. Coliseum obviously not ready yet.

- Vukota



SHOCKER!!!!
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