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JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

May 27 @ 1:22 PM ET
The more I think about it, the more I see Stamkos re signing in Tampa. That team went to game 7 of the eastern finals without him. They're a good competative squad. I can see him staying.
- kindlyrick


Chiefs put up so many posts about how it would be possible for him become an Islander I was starting to think he was already an Islander.

I don't think stays with Tampa.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

May 27 @ 1:27 PM ET
Chiefs put up so many posts about how it would be possible for him become an Islander I was starting to think he was already an Islanders.

I don't think stays with Tampa.

- JimmyP



Ive always said he's Toronto bound......but I just think the Lightening are inches away from being a powerhouse in the NHL. Is there really a difference between say, 9 or 10 million vs 11 million. At that point you, your kids, your kids kids, and their kids kids are set.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 27 @ 1:27 PM ET
Chiefs put up so many posts about how it would be possible for him become an Islander I was starting to think he was already an Islanders.

I don't think stays with Tampa.

- JimmyP



It is possible. Just my opinion, but I don't think it's unrealistic to think it's plausible also. If he wants the biggest payday he'll go to TOR, but I don't foresee them being true contenders for the Cup while Stamkos still has his useful years left in him. I think we're the team closest to contending that can fit him under the cap with little work. We're a really good fit for him and he gets to play with his buddy, Tavares.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

May 27 @ 1:29 PM ET


It is possible. Just my opinion, but I don't think it's unrealistic to think it's plausible also. If he wants the biggest payday he'll go to TOR, but I don't foresee them being true contenders for the Cup while Stamkos still has his useful years left in him. I think we're the team closest to contending that can fit him under the cap with little work. We're a really good fit for him and he gets to play with his buddy, Tavares.

- eichiefs9



only on the PP.......lol
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 27 @ 1:30 PM ET


It is possible. Just my opinion, but I don't think it's unrealistic to think it's plausible also. If he wants the biggest payday he'll go to TOR, but I don't foresee them being true contenders for the Cup while Stamkos still has his useful years left in him. I think we're the team closest to contending that can fit him under the cap with little work. We're a really good fit for him and he gets to play with his buddy, Tavares.

- eichiefs9


Totally agree, and would be a huge move for the new owners coming in showing they mean business.

See we agree sometimes too you Dack !
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 27 @ 1:46 PM ET
only on the PP.......lol
- kindlyrick

He'll be centering the 4th line.
David_Volek
New York Islanders
Location: Trotzville, NY
Joined: 05.01.2013

May 27 @ 1:48 PM ET


It is possible. Just my opinion, but I don't think it's unrealistic to think it's plausible also. If he wants the biggest payday he'll go to TOR, but I don't foresee them being true contenders for the Cup while Stamkos still has his useful years left in him. I think we're the team closest to contending that can fit him under the cap with little work. We're a really good fit for him and he gets to play with his buddy, Tavares.

- eichiefs9

Talk about timing...

http://www.lighthousehock...nders-sign-steven-stamkos
NYI44
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.18.2013

May 27 @ 1:55 PM ET
He'll be centering the 4th line.
- Cptmjl

Well he did play with Matt Martin in juniors
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

May 27 @ 2:01 PM ET
He'll be centering the 4th line.
- Cptmjl



ha......well they can move cizikas to wing, cause Martins gonna want 2.6 million and i dont pay a dollar over 2.5
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

May 27 @ 2:08 PM ET
Talk about timing...

http://www.lighthousehock...nders-sign-steven-stamkos

- David_Volek

I said last night Tampa is already good without him so is it better to be as good as they are without him or sign him and lose 3 or 4 guys? As far as he and the isles I have to believe where there's smoke there's fire I mean legit guys are talking g about him here
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

May 27 @ 2:08 PM ET
ha......well they can move cizikas to wing, cause Martins gonna want 2.6 million and i dont pay a dollar over 2.5
- kindlyrick


Here we go again
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

May 27 @ 2:08 PM ET
I said last night Tampa is already good without him so is it better to be as good as they are without him or sign him and lose 3 or 4 guys? As far as he and the isles I have to believe where there's smoke there's fire I mean legit guys are talking g about him here
- Upstate_isles



Which guys?
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

May 27 @ 2:09 PM ET
Here we go again
- niteislander



Just a joke...
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

May 27 @ 2:10 PM ET


It is possible. Just my opinion, but I don't think it's unrealistic to think it's plausible also. If he wants the biggest payday he'll go to TOR, but I don't foresee them being true contenders for the Cup while Stamkos still has his useful years left in him. I think we're the team closest to contending that can fit him under the cap with little work. We're a really good fit for him and he gets to play with his buddy, Tavares.

- eichiefs9


It's not unrealistic and it is possible. I think the Isles will give it a shot. It would be great publicity for the new owners. On paper your points look good. He can get a big payday and play for an ascending team. Unfortunately I just don't see it happening.

I'm not sure what his priorities are. He's 26 so he may think he could make a cup run in TOR years from now.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

May 27 @ 2:12 PM ET
It's not unrealistic and it is possible. I think the Isles will give it a shot. It would be great publicity for the new owners. On paper your points look good. He can get a big payday and play for an ascending team. Unfortunately I just don't see it happening.

I'm not sure what his priorities are. He's 26 so he many think he could make a cup run in TOR years from now.

- JimmyP



With the money the isles will have available one would think Garths gonna make him an offer. Perhaps the possibility of playing with JT is enough to lure him. The two of them together could be the best 1/2 punch in the league.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

May 27 @ 2:15 PM ET
Brock/ JT/ Franz/ Franz
Strome/ Stamkos/ Lee
Kulemin/UFA / (Prince or Barzal or Quine)
mm/CC/CC

Leddy/Boychuk
Hamonic/deHaan
Pulock/Hickey

Greiss/Berube

traded Bailey, traded OK rights, traded Halak. Grab on LTIR ... plenty of cap room.



kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

May 27 @ 2:16 PM ET
Brock/ JT/ Franz/ Franz
Strome/ Stamkos/ Lee
Kulemin/UFA / (Prince or Barzal or Quine)
mm/CC/CC

Leddy/Boychuk
Hamonic/deHaan
Pulock/Hickey

Greiss/Berube

traded Bailey, traded OK rights, traded Halak. Grab on LTIR ... plenty of cap room.

- niteislander



So you have the isles re signing Matt Martin for 2.55 million? What about the cap?
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

May 27 @ 2:33 PM ET
So you have the isles re signing Matt Martin for 2.55 million? What about the cap?
- kindlyrick


I am the guy who thinks he is worth it... fyi. read my post.. no bailey, No Halak, no Grab, no zid, Strait, Bernier, etc. Plenty of money
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

May 27 @ 2:41 PM ET
I am the guy who thinks he is worth it... fyi. read my post.. no bailey, No Halak, no Grab, no zid, Strait, Bernier, etc. Plenty of money
- niteislander



Im totally being sarcastic.......i agree with you. I though it was funny that guys were very adamant about paying him up to 2.5 but not a penny more. Like theres a difference between 2.5 and 3 million for these owners. Ironically they prob spend that 500k in per diem money on these guys.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 27 @ 2:55 PM ET
It's not unrealistic and it is possible. I think the Isles will give it a shot. It would be great publicity for the new owners. On paper your points look good. He can get a big payday and play for an ascending team. Unfortunately I just don't see it happening.

I'm not sure what his priorities are. He's 26 so he many think he could make a cup run in TOR years from now.

- JimmyP

He most certainly could win in TOR and I genuinely do think that the future is bright for them, but they're in that phase right now where they think that all their prospects are all going to hit their ceilings. We were all in that phase once. Lee and Nelson were going to be big, physical 25-30 goal, 65pt power forwards and Strome was going to be a 60pt playmaking winger. Truth is, they don't all pan out and reach their projections.

Stamkos has a much clearer picture of what the Islanders are and what they've accomplished with a relatively small amount of noteworthy talent. He may feel that his talents could be the team that gets the Islanders over the hump and turns them into a true contender. Whether or not he feels that way is another story, but (like we agree on) it's wholly possible.

I don't know who I'm trying to sell this to, but someone will buy it.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

May 27 @ 2:58 PM ET
Which guys?
- kindlyrick

Hedman will be a Ufa next year and he's gonna getry paid also Killarney Johnson kucherov are gonna get money although rfa's along with 3 or 4 others. I think they want to keep them as a core and bishop they may let walk
special_k1074
New York Islanders
Location: Clifton, NJ
Joined: 01.22.2011

May 27 @ 3:00 PM ET
Ive always said he's Toronto bound......but I just think the Lightening are inches away from being a powerhouse in the NHL. Is there really a difference between say, 9 or 10 million vs 11 million. At that point you, your kids, your kids kids, and their kids kids are set.
- kindlyrick



So does Toronto's fans. Have you seen their blog recently? They are posting multiple pictures of him in a 91 Leafs uniform. They even had him on a hockey card.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 27 @ 3:06 PM ET
Im totally being sarcastic.......i agree with you. I though it was funny that guys were very adamant about paying him up to 2.5 but not a penny more. Like theres a difference between 2.5 and 3 million for these owners. Ironically they prob spend that 500k in per diem money on these guys.
- kindlyrick


Reason they have the money to buy the Islanders is they watch every penny they spend. They don't piss it away!
MM shouldn't be signed by any team for more than 2.0 to 2.5 Million. I love the guy, and what he brings on and off the ice but 2.5 Million would be an over payment but after that you have to say uncle!
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 27 @ 3:14 PM ET
So does Toronto's fans. Have you seen their blog recently? They are posting multiple pictures of him in a 91 Leafs uniform. They even had him on a hockey card.
- special_k1074



eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 27 @ 3:17 PM ET
Reason they have the money to buy the Islanders is they watch every penny they spend. They don't piss it away!
MM shouldn't be signed by any team for more than 2.0 to 2.5 Million. I love the guy, and what he brings on and off the ice but 2.5 Million would be an over payment but after that you have to say uncle!

- nyisles7

Martin is probably worth $2M. I'd give him $2.25M because of market demands. I wouldn't cry at $2.5M, but it's an overpayment. That's why I think a penny over $2.5M shouldn't happen.

Market demand will shift his perceived value further away from his actual value, but there has to be a point where you say enough is enough.
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