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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 27 @ 5:11 AM ET
Good points but the flip side is what if he has a great year and his price and demand go up? Not saying likely or even a stud type but like you said if it's reasonable cost it would be good
- Vukota

I get the thought process and I understand why Snow does it but at times to me it seems to be an unnecessary high risk move. All depends on the contract if there actually is one. If it's for a couple years at 3 million then I think it's fine. Much more than that as far as term and amount it doesn't make much sense imo.
Mr.Honcho
New Jersey Devils
Location: Something I want to get off my chest. Its about that summer, when you went away to community college, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2016

May 27 @ 9:21 AM ET
I get the thought process and I understand why Snow does it but at times to me it seems to be an unnecessary high risk move. All depends on the contract if there actually is one. If it's for a couple years at 3 million then I think it's fine. Much more than that as far as term and amount it doesn't make much sense imo.
- Cptmjl



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Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 27 @ 10:06 AM ET
If it is an extension for greiss, then moving halak becomes absolutely necessary so we don't have too much cap tied up in goaltending.

I'm still a bit cautious about banking our future on one good year, but it seems that's how it's going to go. I just hope greiss doesn't turn into Chad Johnson.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 27 @ 10:12 AM ET
If it is an extension for greiss, then moving halak becomes absolutely necessary so we don't have too much cap tied up in goaltending.

I'm still a bit cautious about banking our future on one good year, but it seems that's how it's going to go. I just hope greiss doesn't turn into Chad Johnson.

- Isles_since_6

I'm in no way saying that I would bank on this, under any circumstances...but JF Berube was an AHL all-star that led his team to the championship the year before we scooped him up. It's not like we have Nathan Lawson backing up, anymore.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

May 27 @ 10:18 AM ET
If it is an extension for greiss, then moving halak becomes absolutely necessary so we don't have too much cap tied up in goaltending.

I'm still a bit cautious about banking our future on one good year, but it seems that's how it's going to go. I just hope greiss doesn't turn into Chad Johnson.

- Isles_since_6


Please don't trade him to Calgary. You guys owe us that much for the GR trade.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 27 @ 11:01 AM ET
I'm in no way saying that I would bank on this, under any circumstances...but JF Berube was an AHL all-star that led his team to the championship the year before we scooped him up. It's not like we have Nathan Lawson backing up, anymore.
- eichiefs9


Brittney Greiss ‏@BrittneyGreiss1 4h4 hours ago
Sorry but no babies. It's hockey related you'll all know soon enough.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

May 27 @ 11:13 AM ET
Brittney Greiss ‏@BrittneyGreiss1 4h4 hours ago
Sorry but no babies. It's hockey related you'll all know soon enough.

- Vukota


eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 27 @ 11:28 AM ET
Brittney Greiss ‏@BrittneyGreiss1 4h4 hours ago
Sorry but no babies. It's hockey related you'll all know soon enough.

- Vukota

Looks like I'm right again.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 27 @ 11:29 AM ET
https://twitter.com/TheRe...status/736031876503179264

Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 27 @ 11:31 AM ET
https://twitter.com/TheRealScalia10/status/736031876503179264


- eichiefs9

Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

May 27 @ 11:42 AM ET
https://twitter.com/TheRealScalia10/status/736031876503179264


- eichiefs9



Like they wouldn't say "Bryan who?" if Stamkos said I'll sign as long as I can get 19.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 27 @ 11:43 AM ET
Please don't trade him to Calgary. You guys owe us that much for the GR trade.
- Wildschwein


we'll trade him anywhere that we don't have to retain salary. at least that would be my expectation.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 27 @ 11:50 AM ET
Like they wouldn't say "Bryan who?" if Stamkos said I'll sign as long as I can get 19.
- Mr.Bobby

I don't particularly give a damn about it, but I don't know any sports franchises in history that let someone take a retired number. Even Jordan couldn't get his own number back
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 27 @ 12:21 PM ET
I don't particularly give a damn about it, but I don't know any sports franchises in history that let someone take a retired number. Even Jordan couldn't get his own number back
- eichiefs9

Having a hard time thinking stamkos would give a sh!t what number he could wear if he signs for 70+ mil.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

May 27 @ 12:28 PM ET
Having a hard time thinking stamkos would give a sh!t what number he could wear if he signs for 70+ mil.
- Isles_since_6



The more I think about it, the more I see Stamkos re signing in Tampa. That team went to game 7 of the eastern finals without him. They're a good competative squad. I can see him staying.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 27 @ 12:31 PM ET
The more I think about it, the more I see Stamkos re signing in Tampa. That team went to game 7 of the eastern finals without him. They're a good competative squad. I can see him staying.
- kindlyrick


Yeah however Tampa has some people to sign other than Stamos in the next couple of years and they can't sign them all. Stevie Y has some tough decisions to make.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 27 @ 12:34 PM ET
Yeah however Tampa has some people to sign other than Stamos in the next couple of years and they can't sign them all. Stevie Y has some tough decisions to make.
- nyisles7

They have a scary list of players to re-sign this year and next.

This year's RFA's include:

- Killorn
- Brown
- Namestnikov
- Kucherov
- Paquette

and UFA:

- Stamkos

next offseason, RFA's:

- Johnson
- Palat
- Drouin
-Sustr

and UFA:

- Hedman


That's two brutal offseasons
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

May 27 @ 12:36 PM ET
They have a scary list of players to re-sign this year and next.

This year's RFA's include:

- Killorn
- Brown
- Namestnikov
- Kucherov
- Paquette

and UFA:

- Stamkos

next offseason, RFA's:

- Johnson
- Palat
- Drouin
-Sustr

and UFA:

- Hedman


That's two brutal offseasons

- eichiefs9



The lightening "chalk" board, in their dressing rooms keys to beating the isles said one thing. Shut down 91 ha
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 27 @ 12:40 PM ET
They have a scary list of players to re-sign this year and next.

This year's RFA's include:

- Killorn
- Brown
- Namestnikov
- Kucherov
- Paquette

and UFA:

- Stamkos

next offseason, RFA's:

- Johnson
- Palat
- Drouin
-Sustr

and UFA:

- Hedman


That's two brutal offseasons

- eichiefs9


Sure is!

I think looking at How Vasolesky played they can shed 6.5 next year by trading Bishop . But man Stevie y has his work cut out for him. Cap doing it job.
Honestly think Stammer is not a Bolt next year.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 27 @ 12:45 PM ET
Sure is!

I think looking at How Vasolesky played they can shed 6.5 next year by trading Bishop . But man Stevie y has his work cut out for him. Cap doing it job.
Honestly think Stammer is not a Bolt next year.

- nyisles7

I don't really see any way they could keep him. If they did, they'd essentially be saying good by to probably two, if not all three, triplets. Hedman is going to command a massive raise too.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 27 @ 12:46 PM ET
Sure is!

I think looking at How Vasolesky played they can shed 6.5 next year by trading Bishop . But man Stevie y has his work cut out for him. Cap doing it job.
Honestly think Stammer is not a Bolt next year.

- nyisles7


Probably help them gain some assets they didn't get by letting Stamkos walk
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 27 @ 12:51 PM ET
Probably help them gain some assets they didn't get by letting Stamkos walk
- Vukota


Yup, With Stamkos and Bishops money out of the equation it gives them relief and the fact that most of their FA's are restricted gives Stevie Y the upper hand, on those signings, however signing Hedman is gonna take a lot of $$$$$$$.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 27 @ 12:52 PM ET
Probably help them gain some assets they didn't get by letting Stamkos walk
- Vukota

Bishop has a NMC, curious if they can convince him to waive it. He could essentially demand to stay for next year and then walk for free.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 27 @ 12:53 PM ET
Bishop has a NMC, curious if they can convince him to waive it. He could essentially demand to stay for next year and then walk for free.
- eichiefs9


Good point I'm sure they could work out something if it came to that
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 27 @ 12:57 PM ET
Good point I'm sure they could work out something if it came to that
- Vukota

Assuming Bishop isn't a giant scumbag, they could probably just ask him to submit a list of teams that are, or may be, in the market for a goaltender that he'd be willing to go to.

Have to think DAL, CGY, TOR, ARI, CAR are all going to be looking for guys.

That said, hope he is a scumbag and refuses to be traded. Keep that market open for Halak.
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