Ty Anderson: Undisputed worst rule in hockey strikes again!
- Ty Anderson2

you are 100% correct.

and there's an easy fix - if the NHL wants to fix it.

the blue line rule should not be and should never have been enforced based on the skate being on the ice... rather "breaking the plain".

simple comparison... is a goal scored when the puck crosses the line ON THE ICE... or when it flies over the line at any point in the net.

should take about 15 seconds for any one half way intelligent to understand - and its easier to enforce for the officials.

but rest assured Gary and his collections of munchkins will spend months analyzing and legalizing over it.

It would suck if it happened to us but you live with it.

Sour grapes all over the place here.
- icedog97

they should review all the times linesmen call offsides when it actually wasn't and automatically award that team a goal whenever they screw it up in reverse

they should review all the times linesmen call offsides when it actually wasn't and automatically award that team a goal whenever they screw it up in reverse
- jimbro83

It's a legitimate reason for a challenge...so long as they have the ability to challenge...and they do

He was offside.

If they change it back and take it out of the challenge category then so be it.

Awarding a goal every time they call offsides and it's not...that might be the dumbest thing I have heard yet.

You do realize the discussion isn't about whether his right leg was over the line, it is about his back leg that was off the ice? If the tip of his skate was touching the ice, the goal would of been allowed.
- Glak18

It's all about a rule that's been enforced for how long? Is it a new rule? Or it's only now the technology is allowing the officials a better opportunity to enforce the rules?

I don't remember the bolts blog discussing the rule a few weeks ago when the same rule (offside), was enforced in the Hawks Blues series. As it wasn't, it does come across now as sour grapes.

It's a rule that is now being given the opportunity to be enforced, it's pretty simple.

It would suck if it happened to us but you live with it.

Sour grapes all over the place here.
- icedog97

Exactly, the whole point of discussion is to correct it so it doesn't happen to ANYONE again.

It's a legitimate reason for a challenge...so long as they have the ability to challenge...and they do

He was offside.

If they change it back and take it out of the challenge category then so be it.

Awarding a goal every time they call offsides and it's not...that might be the dumbest thing I have heard yet.
- icedog97

well, how much dumber is it to take goals away that sometimes are a minute or more after the offside that was missed?

One skate in the air a minute before a goal at the blueline has absolutely NOTHING to do with the skill it takes to score a goal in the NHL

So, as long as we are defending this dumb NHL rule, lets get even dumber

It's all about a rule that's been enforced for how long? Is it a new rule? Or it's only now the technology is allowing the officials a better opportunity to enforce the rules?

I don't remember the bolts blog discussing the rule a few weeks ago when the same rule (offside), was enforced in the Hawks Blues series. As it wasn't, it does come across now as sour grapes.

It's a rule that is now being given the opportunity to be enforced, it's pretty simple.
- Aussiepenguin

Well I enjoyed the blog because it discusses issues with the game and ways to make it better. If you want a recap of the failures of Tampa last night, someone else wrote a blog about it before this one.

Determining where a player is on the ice relative to the puck and the blue line is the intent of off-sides, not whether or not his skate is touching the surface. It makes no sense. Either you're behind the front edge of the blue line and on-side or you're not regardless of whether or not your skate is in the air.
- wolfhounds

exactly... cross the plain.

There was. Thought the rule/call was horrid then as well. Just makes no sense to me.
- wolfhounds

Without rules there would be anarchy............



.........& offside goals! Now no one wants offside goals!

So, If a football players foot is just off the ground an inch in the end zone, should we call that a dumb rule too and make all those touchdowns? How is this any different? Both could be game changers but no one complains about the rule when they call the football player out of bounds.. It's just an inch right? And offside is offside
- defabbo

In the NFL a touchdown is called as soon as the ball breaks the front plane of the goal line, so that point is not really valid.. The NHL could easily modify the offside rule in a similar way which makes more sense and allows more good goals....

It would suck if it happened to us but you live with it.

Sour grapes all over the place here.
- icedog97

If you want to look at it as sour grapes, you're free to do so. But putting a critical eye to it, many see it as just a really dumb rule that's created some unfortunate situations.

And if the rule is allowed to stand, every team is going to be bitten by these silly reviews multiple times. These things don't affect just one or two teams.

I'd be interested in your thoughts in a SCF, decisive game, third period, all tied up, Pens score with three minutes left to take the lead and you have to sit through fifteen minutes of a coach's challenge only to have it overturned because of one angle of a grainy blue line camera video viewed on a game boy size screen.

No, you wouldn't have any sour grapes.....not at all......

Without rules there would be anarchy............



.........& offside goals! Now no one wants offside goals!
- Aussiepenguin

but at the same time some people want to widen the nets to create more offense

In the NFL a touchdown is called as soon as the ball breaks the front plane of the goal line, so that point is not really valid.. The NHL could easily modify the offside rule in a similar way which makes more sense and allows more good goals....
- wilkobecks

Then what...how does the linesman call the game?

C'mon...the rules are fine.

Video review is fine.

SOUR GRAPES...you guys are whiners.

If you want to look at it as sour grapes, you're free to do so. But putting a critical eye to it, many see it as just a really dumb rule that's created some unfortunate situations.

And if the rule is allowed to stand, every team is going to be bitten by these silly reviews multiple times. These things don't affect just one or two teams.

I'd be interested in your thoughts in a SCF, decisive game, third period, all tied up, Pens score with three minutes left to take the lead and you have to sit through fifteen minutes of a coach's challenge only to have it overturned because of one angle of a grainy blue line camera video viewed on a game boy size screen.

No, you wouldn't have any sour grapes.....not at all......
- bcallaway

You take the decision and you move on...or if it's the case lose the game.

I don't have any problem with the review process.

Well I enjoyed the blog because it discusses issues with the game and ways to make it better. If you want a recap of the failures of Tampa last night, someone else wrote a blog about it before this one.
- Glak18

I'm just wondering why all of a sudden it's a huge issue in Bolts land now when only a couple of weeks ago a similar circumstance arose & nothing was said on here unless I missed it?? If it is such an issue, why wasn't there more disputing the rule or the adjudication of the rule back then. It does appear that there is only this heightened concern due to the decision going against the Bolts - which as I said makes it look like sour grapes.

How many goalie interferences either way are not called? I would think that goals disallowed due to a player being pushed into a goalie would be more an urgent rule needing fixing other than 1 that is clear & is a rule that has been around for how long?

well, how much dumber is it to take goals away that sometimes are a minute or more after the offside that was missed?

One skate in the air a minute before a goal at the blueline has absolutely NOTHING to do with the skill it takes to score a goal in the NHL

So, as long as we are defending this dumb NHL rule, lets get even dumber
- jimbro83

You made an apples and oranges comparison with that 'awarding a goal' proposal.

The offside rule HAS NOT CHANGED. You want to change the offside rule now that video replay allows us to see better when a guy was offside.

SOUR GRAPES man.

You take the decision and you move on...or if it's the case lose the game.

I don't have nay problem with the review process.
- icedog97

rrrrrriiiiiight.......

Sure you do.

but at the same time some people want to widen the nets to create more offense
- jimbro83

If they penalised the interference more that would open up the game a lot more wouldn't it? There would be a shyte load more PP (then again, that wouldn't help yours or my team ).

you are 100% correct.

and there's an easy fix - if the NHL wants to fix it.

the blue line rule should not be and should never have been enforced based on the skate being on the ice... rather "breaking the plain".

simple comparison... is a goal scored when the puck crosses the line ON THE ICE... or when it flies over the line at any point in the net.

should take about 15 seconds for any one half way intelligent to understand - and its easier to enforce for the officials.

but rest assured Gary and his collections of munchkins will spend months analyzing and legalizing over it.
- BorjeFan4Ever

I think this goes to the evolution of the rule. The offsides rule has worked, with very few exceptions, for years and years. The linesman is making a judgement call based upon a single line relative to a puck and multiple players moving at high rates of speed. With the use of cameras and slow speeds we are bastardizing the spirit of the original rule on technicalities.

Was he offsides? Absolutely...was offsides the reason he scored? Absolutely not. If the NHL is going to use cameras and replays to get calls right, then the rules will need to be adjusted so the spirit of the rule remains intact.

I agree that eventually the "breaking the plain" will be implemented into the rule and this will be rectified. But it doesn't happen overnight.

It could be worse...a team could score a Cup winning goal in overtime which was later seen as a skate in the crea....I mean offsides only for that not to be reversed.

What a moron you are. Off Side is Off Side There is no almost on side or almost off side or almost a goal or almost not a goal. It is no different trying to determine whether the puck enters the net. You a stupid to even bring it up. Rules are rules
Offside is offside and a goal is a goal The are not ALMOST

What a moron you are. Off Side is Off Side There is no almost on side or almost off side or almost a goal or almost not a goal. It is no different trying to determine whether the puck enters the net. You a stupid to even bring it up. Rules are rules
Offside is offside and a goal is a goal The are not ALMOST
- holeinone

Offside is the worst rule in hockey? Interesting. It's simple, if the players follow the rule that's been in place for fifty years and not cheat then there won't be a problem.

Just because we are now able to properly enforce the rule that has existed for decades doesn't make it a bad rule.

Okay you say, change the rule to "a plane instead of a foot on the line" there will still be insanely close calls that video review will overturn.

And the fans of the teams on the wrong end will always complain. Except when the call goes there way.

Oops Ty. Looks like it's not so undisputed after all.

I think this goes to the evolution of the rule. The offsides rule has worked, with very few exceptions, for years and years. The linesman is making a judgement call based upon a single line relative to a puck and multiple players moving at high rates of speed. With the use of cameras and slow speeds we are bastardizing the spirit of the original rule on technicalities.

Was he offsides? Absolutely...was offsides the reason he scored? Absolutely not. If the NHL is going to use cameras and replays to get calls right, then the rules will need to be adjusted so the spirit of the rule remains intact.

I agree that eventually the "breaking the plain" will be implemented into the rule and this will be rectified. But it doesn't happen overnight.

It could be worse...a team could score a Cup winning goal in overtime which was later seen as a skate in the crea....I mean offsides only for that not to be reversed.
- climbdenali12

If you are saying the 'spirit of the rule' then you have already missed the point.

The rule is the rule.

Without having any part of his body touching the ice behind the blue line, he is OFFISDE.

The only part of his body on the ice is...

wait for it....

wait for it....

OFFSIDE!!!

How about we abolish the blue lines and have basketball on ice NO offside Just have a guy camped at the other end of the ice cherry picking What a maroon you are

rrrrrriiiiiight.......

Sure you do.
- bcallaway

Some people don't 'sleep clown'...just saying

I don't worry about stuff like that.

Sometimes you win...sometimes you lose.

If you lose because the 'fair' rule...did not work in your favor...so be it.