I can't believe so many people have issue with the most simple, black and white rule in the game. It only proves that fans will always find something to complain about...
- Ttrex91

So black & white to you means multiple scenarios?

Offsides

A) One leg over the line and back foot planted - Onsides

B) One leg over the line and back foot off ice - Offsides

C) Skate backwards, whole body over line before puck with control - Onsides

D) Fall down, half the body over line - Onsides

[] <---- Box

Think outside of it, but make sure one leg is touching the ground

Instant replay was brought in by most sports to allow more commercial$. Period.
But....it was offsides.

Instant replay was brought in by most sports to allow more commercial$. Period.
But....it was offsides.
- hockey nut 28

But but I didn't get any commercials, I had to watch the refs watch the replay

So, If a football players foot is just off the ground an inch in the end zone, should we call that a dumb rule too and make all those touchdowns? How is this any different? Both could be game changers but no one complains about the rule when they call the football player out of bounds.. It's just an inch right? And offside is offside

What makes it such a failure? The fact that it can eliminate human error and gives refs the chance to make the right call? So what if it delays the game? Plenty of things in hockey can delay a game, goal reviews from Toronto (not coaches challenge), line brawls/fights, injuries, equipment malfunction,ice repair, glass/board repair, etc. The list goes on. It's pretty stupid that this is even a topic.

But but I didn't get any commercials, I had to watch the refs watch the replay
- Glak18

I also find it funny, a billion dollar game searching for the truth with an 8 inch tablet.

So, If a football players foot is just off the ground an inch in the end zone, should we call that a dumb rule too and make all those touchdowns? How is this any different? Both could be game changers but no one complains about the rule when they call the football player out of bounds.. It's just an inch right? And offside is offside
- defabbo

You know Football and Hockey are two different sports?

I also find it funny, a billion dollar game searching for the truth with an 8 inch tablet.
- hockey nut 28

but it was in 4K!

Not sure if I was the only one who actually laughed when they said that.

So black & white to you means multiple scenarios?

Offsides

A) One leg over the line and back foot planted - Onsides

B) One leg over the line and back foot off ice - Offsides

C) Skate backwards, whole body over line before puck with control - Onsides

D) Fall down, half the body over line - Onsides


- Glak18[] <---- Box

Think outside of it, but make sure one leg is touching the ground

Yeah, those are pretty black and white...shows what you can and cannot do. Why is that so hard to grasp??

Take your box and shove it...

So, If a football players foot is just off the ground an inch in the end zone, should we call that a dumb rule too and make all those touchdowns? How is this any different? Both could be game changers but no one complains about the rule when they call the football player out of bounds.. It's just an inch right? And offside is offside
- defabbo

Stupid argument. Thats determing a score. The NHL reviews goals and if the puck is an inch from scoring, it doesnt count here either.

I could not agree more. This is the rule of unintended consequences.

Reminds me of the late 90's when virtually every goal seemingly was reviewed to see if a player's shoelace might be in the crease.

At the very least this rule needs to be re-examined on how it's applied. Not only are you waiving off legit goals because of micro-millimeters of air space, but you're sucking the life out of the crowds as they sit around holding their breath.

Beyond stupid.

Wasn't there a similar call in the Hawks Blues series or did I miss this concern over the rule that you all must have showed then due to what you are all saying now?

The rule is there. If the players want to 'skate on thin ice' & skate close to the line & risk an offside then so be it. If there is a level of tolerance then the players will test that out as well. With the technology available they either change the rule to suit the technology or keep the rule & call offsides when it is 'offside'!

Yeah, those are pretty black and white...shows what you can and cannot do. Why is that so hard to grasp??

Take your box and shove it...
- Ttrex91

Black and White by definition means 2 options, I listed 4 without thinking hard about it.

4 > 2

Black & White would mean:
Puck must cross the line before any piece of an attacking player does or its offsides.

Obviously the rule is not that.

a league desperate for more offense taking away legitimate goals.

Isn't this the same league that has discussed widening the net and changing the sport just to get more offense?

the dumbest rule in any sport played on any inch of the earth

Stupid argument. Thats determing a score. The NHL reviews goals and if the puck is an inch from scoring, it doesnt count here either.
- Cloud

I think his point was valid, all goals where the player doesn't touch home plate must be disallowed.

That's true, but I just don't like the look of scape goating one particular thing after your team loses, and putting a disclaimer at the end of the blog doesn't redeem it. It comes off as whiney and childish, especially when the rule applies to all teams. Every team has been burned by the review at this point. It's like Penguins' fans over at our blog who like to chirp about the refs when we lose. Everyone knows that the refs suck equally for everyone and will call the score, not the game. It's nothing new. At this point offsides review is nothing new and the disallowed goal is on him for not knowing better.

I wouldn't have minded if this situation got a shout out on a blog about the game, but a whole blog dedicated to it? It's a bad look.
- Victoro311

I guess. There is a berth to the Stanley Cup at stake here. And that goal was a pretty big deal. 1st goal of the game. Pens playing from behind in a must-win situation. The Tampa fans losing their minds. That goal could have changed everything.

That said, I think the decision obviously followed the letter of the rule, but not the spirit. Bottom line, to me - Was Drouin behind the blue line? and Did his skate being off the ice (but still on/behind the line) significantly change anything?

Yes, I'm well aware that Hockey and football are two different sports just trying to draw a correlation between the two rules and how people think one is ridiculous and the other is a great rule. There is a line, correct if you are over the line you are either offside or out of bounds correct? What makes that ridiculous?

Wasn't there a similar call in the Hawks Blues series or did I miss this concern over the rule that you all must have showed then due to what you are all saying now?

The rule is there. If the players want to 'skate on thin ice' & skate close to the line & risk an offside then so be it. If there is a level of tolerance then the players will test that out as well. With the technology available they either change the rule to suit the technology or keep the rule & call offsides when it is 'offside'!
- Aussiepenguin

There was. Thought the rule/call was horrid then as well. Just makes no sense to me.

Wasn't there a similar call in the Hawks Blues series or did I miss this concern over the rule that you all must have showed then due to what you are all saying now?

The rule is there. If the players want to 'skate on thin ice' & skate close to the line & risk an offside then so be it. If there is a level of tolerance then the players will test that out as well. With the technology available they either change the rule to suit the technology or keep the rule & call offsides when it is 'offside'!
- Aussiepenguin

Yes there was. A GWG in game two called off because of back skate in the air.

All told, the Blues have had to sit through four of these challenges in this post season.

Hah...sour grapes.

Offsides is offsides.

Wasn't there a similar call in the Hawks Blues series or did I miss this concern over the rule that you all must have showed then due to what you are all saying now?

The rule is there. If the players want to 'skate on thin ice' & skate close to the line & risk an offside then so be it. If there is a level of tolerance then the players will test that out as well. With the technology available they either change the rule to suit the technology or keep the rule & call offsides when it is 'offside'!
- Aussiepenguin

You do realize the discussion isn't about whether his right leg was over the line, it is about his back leg that was off the ice? If the tip of his skate was touching the ice, the goal would of been allowed.

Penguin fans are the worst.

If this had happened to them, Mario would be getting Obama involved right now and the rule would be changed by noon

Yes, I'm well aware that Hockey and football are two different sports just trying to draw a correlation between the two rules and how people think one is ridiculous and the other is a great rule. There is a line, correct if you are over the line you are either offside or out of bounds correct? What makes that ridiculous?
- defabbo

Copy & Paste

You do realize the discussion isn't about whether his right leg was over the line, it is about his back leg that was off the ice? If the tip of his skate was touching the ice, the goal would of been allowed.

Penguin fans are the worst.

If this had happened to them, Mario would be getting Obama involved right now and the rule would be changed by noon
- jimbro83

It would suck if it happened to us but you live with it.

Sour grapes all over the place here.

Yes there was. A GWG in game two called off because of back skate in the air.

All told, the Blues have had to sit through four of these challenges in this post season.
- bcallaway

I missed the Bolts blog complaining about the rule then?