I think he was John, at least when he was here. Versatile guy. I liked him, and if this fng is anything like him that would help things out a bit.
- 6628

If you asked me to describe Spacek, classic two-way defenseman, guy was decent defensively, pretty tough too, and he had very good offensive instincts, real good sense of when and how to join the play.

If you asked me to describe Spacek, classic two-way defenseman, guy was decent defensively, pretty tough too, and he had very good offensive instincts, real good sense of when and how to join the play.
- John Jaeckel

He was tough. Took some huge hits to make plays and didn't fly off the handle like Roman Polak does once in a while.

Trading Darling and TT does not really help you. They make about 1.5 between the 2 of them. It does not free up any money unless the player is on a ELC for 2 years.

buying out bickell would be a very very bad move. We need to stop having bad money roll over.

Coming up next year on the cap:
darling $587
Gus $667
TT $894
Panarin $812
Kempny $700
LARS $575

If everybody on the list has a solid year, not spectacular.
Darling 1.5
Gus 1
TT 1.75
pan 6.5
Kempny 2.5
Lars ?? not even sure.

That is 10 mil we need to add next year. You need all of Bicks and Scuds 5.1 to come off cleanly, So you try and move Bicks this year so you can keep shaw one more year if the cost is 2 high you take the late 1st/early 2nd.

The Johansson contract is interesting, it is one-way and he will be UFA next year, right? I am not really sure what is the endgame there
- stonefire

Can't have 3 goalies on 1 way deals, so if they are going the Matt Murray route CC is gone and they save 5M. Or they deal Darling...

The Johansson contract is interesting, it is one-way and he will be UFA next year, right? I am not really sure what is the endgame there.

(BTW I just noticed, Drew MacIntyre, who spent some time in Rockford this year, signed a contract with Hamburg Freezers in Germany, but the club folded…)
- stonefire

All three of yesterday's signings will be RFAs after their 1 year deals expire.

Trading Darling and TT does not really help you. They make about 1.5 between the 2 of them. It does not free up any money unless the player is on a ELC for 2 years.

buying out bickell would be a very very bad move. We need to stop having bad money roll over.

Coming up next year on the cap:
darling $587
Gus $667
TT $894
Panarin $812
Kempny $700
LARS $575

If everybody on the list has a solid year, not spectacular.
Darling 1.5
Gus 1
TT 1.75
pan 6.5
Kempny 2.5
Lars ?? not even sure.

That is 10 mil we need to add next year. You need all of Bicks and Scuds 5.1 to come off cleanly, So you try and move Bicks this year so you can keep shaw one more year if the cost is 2 high you take the late 1st/early 2nd.
- kmw4631

I guess you're not a big fan of my posts, with all due respect. I was just speculating that it may be an option because it was a one way contract with that goalie. Just pure speculation. Again, no disrespect.

Can't have 3 goalies on 1 way deals, so if they are going the Matt Murray route CC is gone and they save 5M. Or they deal Darling...
- Sundevil

Johansson, 28, has played the last three seasons with Frolunda HC in the Swedish Hockey League, posting a 56-27-0 record with 11 shutouts in 93 games. During the 2015-16 season, he recorded a league-leading 1.74 goals-against average alongside a save percentage of .927 while going 27-6-0. Johansson picked up league honors for Goalie of the Year last season as Frolunda captured the league championship. In 10 playoff games last season, Johansson recorded a 1.27 GAA with a save percentage of .934.

Can't have 3 goalies on 1 way deals, so if they are going the Matt Murray route CC is gone and they save 5M. Or they deal Darling...
- Sundevil

If true, that's REAL interesting.

Tells me they see him as a surefire upgrade over Darling.

But then that raises a question, how good is he relative to Crawford (who makes $6 million a year)?

Can't have 3 goalies on 1 way deals, so if they are going the Matt Murray route CC is gone and they save 5M. Or they deal Darling...
- Sundevil

Sportrac lists Darling's deal as a two way contract. Not sure about that though.

Can't have 3 goalies on 1 way deals, so if they are going the Matt Murray route CC is gone and they save 5M. Or they deal Darling...
- Sundevil

Why can't a team have 3 goalies on one way deals?

Sportrac lists Darling's deal as a two way contract. Not sure about that though.
- Return of the Roar

Just the first year of his deal was two way according to generalfanager.com

If true, that's REAL interesting.

Tells me they see him as a surefire upgrade over Darling.

But then that raises a question, how good is he relative to Crawford (who makes $6 million a year)?
- John Jaeckel

No way to know how good he is compared to Crawford, or Darling for that matter, until he gets some ice time in the NHL.

The move CC crowd can relax. To me this is about knowing as a pending UFA next year Darling wants to get paid and the organization has no room to do so.

Can't have 3 goalies on 1 way deals, so if they are going the Matt Murray route CC is gone and they save 5M. Or they deal Darling...
- Sundevil

Why wouldn't you be able to have 3 on 1 way? Just means that one of them will get paid nhl money in ahl. 2 way just means they get ahl salary and nhl salary

The constant tweaking by this club is hopeful, we really need players like Gusto and Sved to improve. It would also be nice to see Kempny be all that and hold his own at the NHL level for 20 minutes a night.

Hate to say it but I just don't see Shaw being a member of this team this coming season unless they ship off a big contract, just too many big contracts on this team unless the cap goes up the max amount, fingers crossed

Why wouldn't you be able to have 3 on 1 way? Just means that one of them will get paid nhl money in ahl. 2 way just means they get ahl salary and nhl salary
- lunchbox2111

But with a two way deal, you don't have to go through waivers everytime, correct?

But with a two way deal, you don't have to go through waivers everytime, correct?
- CanOCorn

2 way one 1 way just means you make Less in the AHL or the same. Lars would have to pass thru waivers due to his age. No 28 year old is waiver Exempt if memory serves. I think Kempny and Lundberg do not have to pass thru waivers.

you can have 3 goalies on 1 ways you just cannot keep 3 on the roster (actually you can) just no one does I believe.

I guess you're not a big fan of my posts, with all due respect. I was just speculating that it may be an option because it was a one way contract with that goalie. Just pure speculation. Again, no disrespect.
- 93Joe

I did not mean to be harsh just that Darling and TT might bring back a asset (both good players) but the odds that he makes less then them which would be important seems unlikely unless you add Bickell.

Too much in terms of value or in terms of their percentage of the cap?

Remember, if the cap had increased as was originally expected their cap numbers would not be an issue. If the Cap had increased even $2mil more, then there isn't the discussion about "if they had both taken a million less each, we wouldn't be in the same cap hell".

In reality the Hawks will always spend to the cap, and there will always be the discussion about who is paid too much as it pertains to fitting needed pieces in under the cap or having to jettison wanted players, regardless of what the actual cap number is.
- TheTrob

I give up......questioning lower paid players who do EAT up space from other players who could be replaced is one thing......questioning arguably the 2 best forwards in hockey right now.....is a different animal.

I also understand that 19/88 had down playoff years by their standards, but it's funny that the heap of blame continues to fall on them because of what they earned......yet no finger pointing elsewhere.....last I checked hockey was a team sport and unsung heroes in the playoffs usually equate to long runs.....if you look at the remaining teams bet you could find a guy exceeding his out put.

Some how Pittsburgh kept winning when Malkin and Crosby went cold....amazing.

@JayZawakski670

From what I'm told, I wouldn't count on Nick Schmaltz signing with the Hawks this year. Looking more and more like he's headed back to ND.
- DarthKane

Roh-roh George........

Might see more and more of this if a college kid doesn't see an immediate spot available to him. While we can bash Hayes, no way Panarin signs here last year if he wasn't guaranteed a roster spot.

This from the other board, A few people that have followed Lundberg (just fans so take it with a grain of salt)

Martin Lundberg is a typical fouth line PK specialist. Clean hitting tough guy. One of few who has ever completed a Gordie Howe hattrick in the SHL.

Since he started playing hockey as a kid he has only ever represented my team. A HUGE fan favorite with how he sacrifices himself and stands up for his teammates. We've lost +15 players to the NHL in the last 5 years, all whom could be deemed to have more raw talent than Lundberg, but no loss will ever hurt as much as this.

Martin Lundberg is a physical monster. And he is trained in Swedens best team for the past 8 years Skellefteå AIK with the four straight regular season championships and six straight finals. And a team that plays with speed and puck possession. I don't believe anyone will be disappointed.

He's a great PKer, he works extremely hard both ways, he has excellent balance, is hard as **** and never complains.

Martin Lundberg will stop a puck with his mouth, spit out his teeth, stop the bleeding then go out on the next shift and stop another puck with his mouth. He's also ridiculously physically fit. (in the cardio way, not pumping iron muscles)




https://blackhawksbreakdo...wordpres...hawk-forwards/

First off you are correct about Kane and can't really argue the Toews evaluation either.

Tweeted the other day...When was the last time the best player on a team missed the entire playoffs due to injury yet his team won the Cup?

The question was in reference to Stamkos....But in reality Stamkos went from the best player on the Lightning to somewhere between #4-#6....

What this has set-up is the Leafs will get their guy for huge money and it could be very similar to the Phil Kessel signing. Really good player but one that has never led a team to a Cup.

Funny how history could repeat itself in Toronto and whether TB wins the Cup this year or not they are in great shape....Because they have their build around player in Hedman, while Kucherov is their best forward and they are only 25 and 22 respectively.
- Al

Thanks Al and I agree with you....that's why I just cringe each time I see 19/88 are "overpaid". The market will correct itself as HRR rises, teams have more money to spend and salaries to lower tiered guys slowly rises and forces a larger gap between them and stars.

The only thing that is interesting is that MOST of the elite talent in the NHL is locked up right now....but everyone assuming Panarin is a lock to come I think is overestimating his loyalty. IF you factor in his bonuses and cap hit, and then slot him where his skill set is compared to others around the league....you quickly end up very high....

So what I'm curious is how does Bowman avoid a Saad part 2 in regards to having 6-7 million AAV to slot for Panarin and keep this team 1. cap compliant and 2. cup contenders....

I don't envy Bowman's job at all. I am not his biggest fan but he has a VERY tough 12 months staring him in the face.

This from the other board, A few people that have followed Lundberg (just fans so take it with a grain of salt)

Martin Lundberg is a typical fouth line PK specialist. Clean hitting tough guy. One of few who has ever completed a Gordie Howe hattrick in the SHL.

Since he started playing hockey as a kid he has only ever represented my team. A HUGE fan favorite with how he sacrifices himself and stands up for his teammates. We've lost +15 players to the NHL in the last 5 years, all whom could be deemed to have more raw talent than Lundberg, but no loss will ever hurt as much as this.

Martin Lundberg is a physical monster. And he is trained in Swedens best team for the past 8 years Skellefteå AIK with the four straight regular season championships and six straight finals. And a team that plays with speed and puck possession. I don't believe anyone will be disappointed.

He's a great PKer, he works extremely hard both ways, he has excellent balance, is hard as **** and never complains.

Martin Lundberg will stop a puck with his mouth, spit out his teeth, stop the bleeding then go out on the next shift and stop another puck with his mouth. He's also ridiculously physically fit. (in the cardio way, not pumping iron muscles)




https://blackhawksbreakdo...wordpres...hawk-forwards/
- kmw4631

I'm wondering if Lundberg is a replacement for Rasmussen. There should be room for both but the seem like similar depth players (although Lundberg sounds more physical).

I have seen a shot (granted a couple of years ago) of Kruger without a shirt and he was pretty scrawny. That said, he looks to have a classic hockey player's build, very strong through the hips and thighs. Kruger gets a helluva lot out of his 180-185, and that is without question. He wins a lot of pucks against much bigger guys. So I would say while they appear similar, in terms of the down low work and battles along the wall, Kruger gets a lot more out of his size.
- John Jaeckel

100% agree with you and if you put Kruger's want/desire in Teuvo's body with his supposed skill set....you would have a top 6 player. No argument there. Problem is Teuvo hasn't shown the want to which is a very large portion of being a successful NHL player....aka the mental side as some others alluded to.

But with a two way deal, you don't have to go through waivers everytime, correct?
- CanOCorn

A deal being two way and waiver exemption are two separate things. Waiver eligibility is based on the years/number of games played. Here's an explanation from capfriendly.com:

https://www.capfriendly.com/waivers-faq

If true, that's REAL interesting.

Tells me they see him as a surefire upgrade over Darling.

But then that raises a question, how good is he relative to Crawford (who makes $6 million a year)?
- John Jaeckel

And as we both have mentioned you only have SO many WANTED assets on the roster that YOU could deal....Goaltending is quickly becoming one of them......

Given you are 2 wins away from young, back up/unknowns battling for the cup in Jones vs Murray I think other GMs may adapt a Wilson strategy and recall Darling bailing out the Hawks vs Nashville 13 months ago.....

Question is what can Bowman pry back....a pick or prospect? The cap room is a given as every $1 will count for him.....unless he goes all in and deals 50....