Gord Downie
- robin_steele264

Robin!

Gord Downie

Robin!

Gord Downie
- Aetherial

Brutal. Just, brutal.

Oh sorry, I simply meant our 3rd rounder not 3rd overall.....that would be crazy


cause trading marner....is not crazy.....not for yakapoop right....right?
- Fakepartofme

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Low percentage play that Lou and Shanny get fished in for Yakacrap for any price,
better chance that Leafs make a play for the 4th pick - will have to be a three way trade involving a defenseman going to the Oilers. Then Leafs can pick up any defenseman in the draft or re-unit Tkachuk with Marner - worked in junior.
Montreal is a sucker for underachieving Russians. They will overpay,

JVR and Turris were younger than Kane...should have picked them. Kane's age distorted his development curve.

Though Turris is as good as Toews if not better so...
- AdamFrench

Look it is Pronmon that cited age as the primary factor in dropping Matthews to number 2 on his list behind Laine. We know that Yakupov was older by draft standards and that Couturier dropped in the draft with age being a concern.

There are gifted older players. Also you have seen really young players like Huberdeau and Hamilton shoot up in the draft in the last few months.

Bob MacKenzie has a group of scouts that he polls over the year leading into the draft. Before the Worlds he reported that Matthews was no longer a unanimous pick by all the scouts. Scouts were obviously impressed by Laine in Finnish championship play.

The idea that everyone, universally and without any doubt simply and completely believes that Matthews alone is worthy of number 1 consideration is simply not true.

Look it is Pronmon that cited age as the primary factor in dropping Matthews to number 2 on his list behind Laine. We know that Yakupov was older by draft standards and that Couturier dropped in the draft with age being a concern.

There are gifted older players. Also you have seen really young players like Huberdeau and Hamilton shoot up in the draft in the last few months.

Bob MacKenzie has a group of scouts that he polls over the year leading into the draft. Before the Worlds he reported that Matthews was no longer a unanimous pick by all the scouts. Scouts were obviously impressed by Laine in Finnish championship play.

The idea that everyone, universally and without any doubt simply and completely believes that Matthews alone is worthy of number 1 consideration is simply not true.
- spatso

will you (frank)ing shut your hole

Look it is Pronmon that cited age as the primary factor in dropping Matthews to number 2 on his list behind Laine. We know that Yakupov was older by draft standards and that Couturier dropped in the draft with age being a concern.

There are gifted older players. Also you have seen really young players like Huberdeau and Hamilton shoot up in the draft in the last few months.

Bob MacKenzie has a group of scouts that he polls over the year leading into the draft. Before the Worlds he reported that Matthews was no longer a unanimous pick by all the scouts. Scouts were obviously impressed by Laine in Finnish championship play.

The idea that everyone, universally and without any doubt simply and completely believes that Matthews alone is worthy of number 1 consideration is simply not true.
- spatso

Still on this hobby horse, eh?

Look it is Pronmon that cited age as the primary factor in dropping Matthews to number 2 on his list behind Laine. We know that Yakupov was older by draft standards and that Couturier dropped in the draft with age being a concern.

There are gifted older players. Also you have seen really young players like Huberdeau and Hamilton shoot up in the draft in the last few months.

Bob MacKenzie has a group of scouts that he polls over the year leading into the draft. Before the Worlds he reported that Matthews was no longer a unanimous pick by all the scouts. Scouts were obviously impressed by Laine in Finnish championship play.

The idea that everyone, universally and without any doubt simply and completely believes that Matthews alone is worthy of number 1 consideration is simply not true.
- spatso

Awesome.

You know most of us have read all this stuff right?

Do you really think you are the only person here who follows this stuff and we all rely on you for up-to-the-minute, unbiased, wisdom.

Do you think any of us care? Opinions and discussions are fine, but not from you. Sorry dude.

roughly...
- Fruitcakenipple

Pretty sure that rabbit is just quietly hoping nobody notices he's on the wrong side of the horse.

Awesome.

You know most of us have read all this stuff right?

Do you really think you are the only person here who follows this stuff and we all rely on you for up-to-the-minute, unbiased, wisdom.

Do you think any of us care? Opinions and discussions are fine, but not from you. Sorry dude.
- Aetherial

guy sounds like a broken culture club record ffs

Look it is Pronmon that cited age as the primary factor in dropping Matthews to number 2 on his list behind Laine. We know that Yakupov was older by draft standards and that Couturier dropped in the draft with age being a concern.

There are gifted older players. Also you have seen really young players like Huberdeau and Hamilton shoot up in the draft in the last few months.

Bob MacKenzie has a group of scouts that he polls over the year leading into the draft. Before the Worlds he reported that Matthews was no longer a unanimous pick by all the scouts. Scouts were obviously impressed by Laine in Finnish championship play.

The idea that everyone, universally and without any doubt simply and completely believes that Matthews alone is worthy of number 1 consideration is simply not true.
- spatso

95 percent of mock drafts and scouts say Mathews.

Who cares about age. Doughty was an "older" player in his draft year and look how he turned out. Arguably the best. You are digging way too deep in this age thing. You are acting like its a huge secret and nobody knows he's half a year older. Who gives a (frank).

Oh sorry, I simply meant our 3rd rounder not 3rd overall.....that would be crazy


cause trading marner....is not crazy.....not for yakapoop right....right?
- Fakepartofme

but...but but... Yakapoop was the #1 pick overall... and Marner's not even as good as Perron...

so we better this deal done soon - before someone else steals him.

alternately we could just trade Marner for Perron.

Awesome.

You know most of us have read all this stuff right?

Do you really think you are the only person here who follows this stuff and we all rely on you for up-to-the-minute, unbiased, wisdom.

Do you think any of us care? Opinions and discussions are fine, but not from you. Sorry dude.
- Aetherial

Pretty sure that rabbit is just quietly hoping nobody notices he's on the wrong side of the horse.
- oldstyle

Horse is delicious

It's quite sad that he can't point out a single weakness in his game so he try's to pull out reasons out of his ass like how Mathews is half a year older than some of the players. Give it a rests

but...but but... Yakapoop was the #1 pick overall... and Marner's not even as good as Perron...

so we better this deal done soon - before someone else steals him.

alternately we could just trade Marner for Perron.
- BorjeFan4Ever

Hmm, Perron killing it in his overage year, 7th round pick, he's a Connor Brown at best, but probably not as good.

Look it is Pronmon that cited age as the primary factor in dropping Matthews to number 2 on his list behind Laine. We know that Yakupov was older by draft standards and that Couturier dropped in the draft with age being a concern.

There are gifted older players. Also you have seen really young players like Huberdeau and Hamilton shoot up in the draft in the last few months.

Bob MacKenzie has a group of scouts that he polls over the year leading into the draft. Before the Worlds he reported that Matthews was no longer a unanimous pick by all the scouts. Scouts were obviously impressed by Laine in Finnish championship play.

The idea that everyone, universally and without any doubt simply and completely believes that Matthews alone is worthy of number 1 consideration is simply not true.
- spatso

There were scouts that said Tavares couldn't skate well enough to be a 1st line centre and that Duchene was the obvious choice. Hedman was too soft to play the NHL game effectively. MacKenzie espoused that he had "Even seen lists with Duchene and Hedman ahead of Tavares!" Just like he had seen lists with Doughty ahead of Stamkos. Lists with Galchenyuk or Murray ahead of Yakupov. Lists with Drouin ahead of MacKinnon. Lists with Seguin over Hall Etc. etc. It happens every year. Right or wrong in hindsight the consensus number one pick going into the season is selected first overall. Off the top of my head the times the consensus going in wasn't picked in the past decade are 2006 (Kessel was the supposed 1st at years start). 2011 (Adam Larsson was the consensus) 2003 (Zero consensus)

Now I have NO doubt that some scouts have Laine ahead of Matthews. I'm sure you could find some scouts who have Puljarvi ahead of both of them. Or some extremely edgy scout with Sergachev at number one (likely the same guy who thinks Jankowski would be the best player in the draft *cough* Maguire *cough*).

However it doesn't change the fact that Matthews has been ranked 1st since 3 years ago and will almost assuredly be the Leafs pick. Whether it turns out alright is entirely unknown and superfluous since nobody on this board makes the decisions.

roughly...
- Fruitcakenipple

Rabbit is awesome, horse meat is pretty good too.

For something to live another thing needs to die. That's life.
Plants can communicate amongst themselves and with insects. They can express when they are happy or sad.
They too don't want to die, so where do you draw that line?

(frank) vegetarians right in their stupid faces.

Hmm, Perron killing it in his overage year, 7th round pick, he's a Connor Brown at best, but probably not as good.
- TheMussel

Connor brown wasn't an overager.

An overager is Dane fox. And look it up he went no where after lighting up the O

Rabbit is awesome, horse meat is pretty good too.

For something to live another thing needs to die. That's life.
Plants can communicate amongst themselves and with insects. They can express when they are happy or sad.
They too don't want to die, so where do you draw that line?

(frank) vegetarians right in their stupid faces.
- hunglikeapuck

I was at Lobster Clam Jam in mtl on the weekend and was lining up for some Oysters when protesters on the other side of the fence started harping on about how Lobsters have feelings with their megaphone. It was a pretty lame protest.

There were scouts that said Tavares couldn't skate well enough to be a 1st line centre and that Duchene was the obvious choice. Hedman was too soft to play the NHL game effectively. MacKenzie espoused that he had "Even seen lists with Duchene and Hedman ahead of Tavares!" Just like he had seen lists with Doughty ahead of Stamkos. Lists with Galchenyuk or Murray ahead of Yakupov. Lists with Drouin ahead of MacKinnon. Lists with Seguin over Hall Etc. etc. It happens every year. Right or wrong in hindsight the consensus number one pick going into the season is selected first overall. Off the top of my head the times the consensus going in wasn't picked in the past decade are 2006 (Kessel was the supposed 1st at years start). 2011 (Adam Larsson was the consensus) 2003 (Zero consensus)

Now I have NO doubt that some scouts have Laine ahead of Matthews. I'm sure you could find some scouts who have Puljarvi ahead of both of them. Or some extremely edgy scout with Sergachev at number one (likely the same guy who thinks Jankowski would be the best player in the draft *cough* Maguire *cough*).

However it doesn't change the fact that Matthews has been ranked 1st since 3 years ago and will almost assuredly be the Leafs pick. Whether it turns out alright is entirely unknown and superfluous since nobody on this board makes the decisions.
- AdamFrench

The fact that he's a potential franchise Center seals it.

I'm going to be happy that the Jets end up with Laine (I think) but if Matthews was available that's who I'd want.

Pretty sure that rabbit is just quietly hoping nobody notices he's on the wrong side of the horse.
- oldstyle

I was at Lobster Clam Jam in mtl on the weekend and was lining up for some Oysters when protesters on the other side of the fence started harping on about how Lobsters have feelings with their megaphone. It was a pretty lame protest.
- TheMussel

Yeah...but they're always so crabby.

Yeah...but they're always so crabby.
- stormey

Look it is Pronmon that cited age as the primary factor in dropping Matthews to number 2 on his list behind Laine. We know that Yakupov was older by draft standards and that Couturier dropped in the draft with age being a concern.

There are gifted older players. Also you have seen really young players like Huberdeau and Hamilton shoot up in the draft in the last few months.

Bob MacKenzie has a group of scouts that he polls over the year leading into the draft. Before the Worlds he reported that Matthews was no longer a unanimous pick by all the scouts. Scouts were obviously impressed by Laine in Finnish championship play.

The idea that everyone, universally and without any doubt simply and completely believes that Matthews alone is worthy of number 1 consideration is simply not true.
- spatso

Watch the video ;

Leafs picking Matthews; he is a dominant centre, he will score often. The Sens goalies facing him will have sunburn on the back of their necks from the red light going on so often.

Auston Matthews - Leaf superstar is coming. Ottawa can Eat their hearts out.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzFWmP7OLps

The fact that he's a potential franchise Center seals it.

I'm going to be happy that the Jets end up with Laine (I think) but if Matthews was available that's who I'd want.
- stormey

Both should be awesome players.

Laine has weaknesses and Matthews dosent. Easy pick.

Excited for the Jets though they have some good young studs. Absolutely robbed Buffalo in the Kane deal