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bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

May 24 @ 2:28 PM ET
He's a 2nd overall pick. Not a 10th or 15th. 1st forward drafted in his class.

I think he's already pretty good. But most of the forwards taken 1st in their class end up great. Not sure I see it with Reinhart. Look at what most of the 1st forwards taken over the last 10 years do when they are even just 18.

- sbroads24


Right now, two years after the draft he's probably the third best forward in his draft Larkin and Draisaitl being above him. I think Reinhart will have a better career than Draisaitl though.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

May 24 @ 2:29 PM ET
Foligno reminds me of the 2009-2012 teams where we were always banking on the potential of what our team could be if everything went right, and it never went right.
- chilliard77

He did step up his game towards the end of the season , as did most of the team. If I remember he had a nagging injury that finally got better. Or...realized his contract was up and I think he is arbitration eligible .
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 24 @ 2:30 PM ET
Right now, two years after the draft he's probably the third best forward in his draft Larkin and Draisaitl being above him. I think Reinhart will have a better career than Draisaitl though.
- bluengold12

Which is fine. Just probably a little underwhelming.

Like RNH is a little underwhelming for a 1st pick. He's not a bust like Yak, but he's not a superstar like Tavares or Stamkos etc
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

May 24 @ 2:32 PM ET
Isn't the raise rate 10% 2.75 would be greater and I would be fine with it 2-3yrs
- cabin


Hm... Don't know but makes sense. I assume he'll ask for 3 million and the Sabres will give it to him but I hope I'm wrong. They gave Larsson a 150,000 dollar raise increase which is somewhat significant given his abysmal offensive numbers.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

May 24 @ 2:33 PM ET
Hm... Don't know but makes sense. I assume he'll ask for 3 million and the Sabres will give it to him but I hope I'm wrong. They gave Larsson a 150,000 dollar raise increase which is somewhat significant given his abysmal offensive numbers.
- bluengold12


Edit. General Fanger has Foligno's cap hit at 1.875 4th period says he had a salary of 2.25. Assuming some of that must've been bonuses?
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 24 @ 2:34 PM ET
Right now, two years after the draft he's probably the third best forward in his draft Larkin and Draisaitl being above him. I think Reinhart will have a better career than Draisaitl though.
- bluengold12

It's only two years, give him time. We still got the best forward in the draft.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 24 @ 2:34 PM ET
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/buf160524.html

How much of a raise does he really deserve? I don't want to pay Foligno more than 2.5 a season...

- bluengold12



Give him 2.4 for 6. Nice cap control through his prime years. Can contribute either 3 or 4 line. These are the sort of contracts that round out the team.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

May 24 @ 2:34 PM ET
you guys said he belonged in the ahl

we got a new toy and you guys tossed the old toy under the bed

- homiedclown




Like one person said that. It it was one of those people that no one listens to
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

May 24 @ 2:35 PM ET
Which is fine. Just probably a little underwhelming.

Like RNH is a little underwhelming for a 1st pick. He's not a bust like Yak, but he's not a superstar like Tavares or Stamkos etc

- sbroads24


I think it's more of a product of the draft... Reinhart and Draistil are about even right now IMO. Larkin would've been a colossal mistake at the time he was drafted if he went 2nd overall. No way Murray could've known his potential. Reinhart went right about where he should've
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

May 24 @ 2:36 PM ET
Give him 2.4 for 6. Nice cap control through his prime years. Can contribute either 3 or 4 line. These are the sort of contracts that round out the team.
- Der Kaiser


six years for Foligno?!?! No thank you...
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 24 @ 2:37 PM ET
Like one person said that. It it was one of those people that no one listens to
- Fattony1187

it was much more than 1

fastek
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CA
Joined: 02.19.2016

May 24 @ 2:38 PM ET
Reinhart too, but I have serious questions about how good he will be. I think he's gonna be really good, just underwhelming for a 2nd overall pick
- sbroads24


Sam could be better than Jack in the long run......... seriously.
Grizzly12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.29.2016

May 24 @ 2:38 PM ET
He's a 2nd overall pick. Not a 10th or 15th. 1st forward drafted in his class.

I think he's already pretty good. But most of the forwards taken 1st in their class end up great. Not sure I see it with Reinhart. Look at what most of the 1st forwards taken over the last 10 years do when they are even just 18.

- sbroads24

I think Reinhart is too hard to judge at this age. His strength is his vision and smarts, but he lacked the body and speed needed for the NHL. Look at his 9 games compared to a whole season after working on his strength and skating...Every year that speed and power will only accent his knowledge of the game. I just don't think we can predict how good he can be, because we can't predict what will happen in the next few years. Will something happen to hinder his development? (injuries, offseason surgeries, etc) In my opinion, if something like this were to happen, it would be the only reason why Reinhart would only amount to just a good player.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 24 @ 2:39 PM ET
Sam could be better than Jack in the long run......... seriously.
- fastek

oh my


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 24 @ 2:39 PM ET
I think Reinhart is too hard to judge at this age. His strength is his vision and smarts, but he lacked the body and speed needed for the NHL. Look at his 9 games compared to a whole season after working on his strength and skating...Every year that speed and power will only accent his knowledge of the game. I just don't think we can predict how good he can be, because we can't predict what will happen in the next few years. Will something happen to hinder his development? (injuries, offseason surgeries, etc) In my opinion, if something like this were to happen, it would be the only reason why Reinhart would only amount to just a good player.
- Grizzly12

best vision since #16 IMO for a sabre
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 24 @ 2:40 PM ET
Rumor no one will believe. My source says we plan to offer max contract at 7 years to Stamkos on the first possible day.


Personally I don't like it.

- Buffalo--Sabres

I was told it will be close to 10 if not 10 a year, you won't get him to look at the Sabres for 8 a year. He makes 7.5 now.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 24 @ 2:40 PM ET
I think it's more of a product of the draft... Reinhart and Draistil are about even right now IMO. Larkin would've been a colossal mistake at the time he was drafted if he went 2nd overall. No way Murray could've known his potential. Reinhart went right about where he should've
- bluengold12

For a while I really was questioning the pick, but he played really good down the stretch. I don't think we made a mistake with him. Just wish he was a little more dynamic for a top forward
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 24 @ 2:40 PM ET
Sam could be better than Jack in the long run......... seriously.
- fastek

eichel (Kane) and Reinhart (Toews) can be the Eastern conference Chicago Blackhawks in a couple of years if they both max out on their supposed potential
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 24 @ 2:42 PM ET
eichel (Kane) and Reinhart (Toews) can be the Eastern conference Chicago Blackhawks in a couple of years if they both max out on their supposed potential
- Pegullaville

I have heard potential for 30 plus years
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 24 @ 2:43 PM ET
Sam could be better than Jack in the long run......... seriously.
- fastek

I would be shocked. Eichel is going to be an absolute superstar
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 24 @ 2:44 PM ET
I have heard potential for 30 plus years
- homiedclown

Just sit back and watch the show. Sabres haven't had players with the talent of a Reinahrt or Eichel since #16 and mogilny.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 24 @ 2:45 PM ET
I have heard potential for 30 plus years
- homiedclown

Now you are seeing it.

Next season we all realize it.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 24 @ 2:47 PM ET
I would be shocked. Eichel is going to be an absolute superstar
- sbroads24

Eichel will always be the more elite offensive player points wise much like a Patrick Kane, but Reinhart will have more of an impact on whether or not the team wins or loses on a given night with his leadership/ two way ability much like a Toews.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

May 24 @ 2:48 PM ET
Sam could be better than Jack in the long run......... seriously.
- fastek


I love Sam... but this won't happen. That's ok, he doesn't need to be. He reminds me of Adam Oats.
fastek
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CA
Joined: 02.19.2016

May 24 @ 2:49 PM ET
I would be shocked. Eichel is going to be an absolute superstar
- sbroads24


I agree with that ..... and I still stand by what I said.
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