BluemanGuruu
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Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO Joined: 06.28.2007
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Just saw the hit on Hertl and the one on Fabbri. Both hits were fine. If anyone is the blame for the negative aspects of the hit it was the players receiving the hits who both put themselves into terrible positions. Hertl leans into the play where you know contact is coming. Fabbri has his back turned the play admiring his pass. He got hit in the shoulder area.
Keep your head up and don't lead into physical contact with your face. Like a fist fight where a guy comes at the other guy like a bull. |
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Jason Millen
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Location: Saint Louis, MO Joined: 01.28.2016
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Just saw the hit on Hertl and the one on Fabbri. Both hits were fine. If anyone is the blame for the negative aspects of the hit it was the players receiving the hits who both put themselves into terrible positions. Hertl leans into the play where you know contact is coming. Fabbri has his back turned the play admiring his pass. He got hit in the shoulder area.
Keep your head up and don't lead into physical contact with your face. Like a fist fight where a guy comes at the other guy like a bull. - BluemanGuruu
So you don't see potential principal point of contact as the head in Brouwer's hit or that the hit on Fabbri was pretty late and from behind? |
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Jason Millen
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Location: Saint Louis, MO Joined: 01.28.2016
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Hitch on when Troy Brouwer emerged as a leader for the Blues - "It was early in the season when he told me to shut up." |
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ssullivan28
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Location: Antioch, CA Joined: 10.01.2006
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About 10 seconds later, the puck goes behind the Blues net and Troy Brouwer puts a big hit on Thomas Hertl, taking the puck in the process. Brouwer looks like he made contact high and I’m surprised he didn’t get called for a penalty.
Officiating was exceptionally bad that game....both ways. I thought that particular hit on Hertl was both high and interference (being Brouwer hit Hertl before he had a chance to get anywhere near the puck.)
There were plenty of non-calls both ways (the very obvious high stick from Burns on Tarasenko....and then the hip check he put into Brouwer's back along the boards seemed to cross the line as well.)
Then again, what should we expect, the NHL has always had pretty bad officiating. Hell I've seen better officiating in roller hockey tournaments. |
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Jason Millen
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Location: Saint Louis, MO Joined: 01.28.2016
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Lighting head Coach John Cooper on Malkin "guaranteeing" a game 7 - "What is he supposed to say? 'Ah, we're done? We're just coming down here for a formality?'" |
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BluemanGuruu
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Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO Joined: 06.28.2007
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The hit by Burns on Brouwer was illegal. He hit him from behind. Now that is a bad hit. That should have cost him a game. |
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BluemanGuruu
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Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO Joined: 06.28.2007
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So you don't see potential principal point of contact as the head in Brouwer's hit or that the hit on Fabbri was pretty late and from behind? - Jason Millen
If you put your face into the contact before the rest of your body with plenty of time to put your shoulder there then the principle point of contact does not matter. That would be like diving to hit your face on a stick for a high stick. Some of it has got to be put on the guy getting hit.
Fabbri was hit from the side not from behind. Again you cannot simoly shield yourself by just continuously putting your back to the play to avoid contact. Wiengels hit him from the side which I think is a perfectly legit way to hit someone who turns their back to the play.
A hit from behind is the one Burns does on Brouwer in the second period. Brouwer is going to play the puck and as soon he touches it the entire time the numbers are facing Burns and he makes a play on him.
I do not like dirty hits and will be the first one to call a hit dirty. I think Hertl caused his face to be the principle point of contact like if we were fighting and I came at you and ducked my head and lead with my head what is going to happen?
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carcus
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Location: #Winnington Joined: 02.12.2009
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Hitch on when Troy Brouwer emerged as a leader for the Blues - "It was early in the season when he told me to shut up." - Jason Millen
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BluemanGuruu
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Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO Joined: 06.28.2007
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Officiating was exceptionally bad that game....both ways. I thought that particular hit on Hertl was both high and interference (being Brouwer hit Hertl before he had a chance to get anywhere near the puck.)
There were plenty of non-calls both ways (the very obvious high stick from Burns on Tarasenko....and then the hip check he put into Brouwer's back along the boards seemed to cross the line as well.)
Then again, what should we expect, the NHL has always had pretty bad officiating. Hell I've seen better officiating in roller hockey tournaments. - ssullivan28
It's called a reverse hit. Hertl does not need the puck only to try and make a play on the player possessing the puck. The closest argument you can make is Brouwer did not really have possession of the puck but that is a close one leaning to him not.
Punchin a player who is down in the liver is dangerous and cheap. |
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BluemanGuruu
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Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO Joined: 06.28.2007
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Just saw the r the Hertl shooting it in the goal after the whistle.
Thorton straight up skates by Petro and smokes him in the face and skates away. Nice sucker punch. But you know when I call not a good person I am obviously incorrect. Because good people sucker punch others because that is not at all cowardly and cheap. |
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BluemanGuruu
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Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO Joined: 06.28.2007
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Lighting head Coach John Cooper on Malkin "guaranteeing" a game 7 - "What is he supposed to say? 'Ah, we're done? We're just coming down here for a formality?'" - Jason Millen
So you want me to make some sort of sound byte for you to make some extra drama because someone said something they are going to say?
I love how the media is full of idiots and these hockey guys have been giving it back to them. Now that you apre the media Jammer I can say you have not fallen into the trap so far. |
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Jason Millen
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Location: Saint Louis, MO Joined: 01.28.2016
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Officiating was exceptionally bad that game....both ways. I thought that particular hit on Hertl was both high and interference (being Brouwer hit Hertl before he had a chance to get anywhere near the puck.)
There were plenty of non-calls both ways (the very obvious high stick from Burns on Tarasenko....and then the hip check he put into Brouwer's back along the boards seemed to cross the line as well.)
Then again, what should we expect, the NHL has always had pretty bad officiating. Hell I've seen better officiating in roller hockey tournaments. - ssullivan28
Agreed it was poor and sort of par for the course but I don't like when they let all that go in games where the score is lopsided. Seems to feed on itself and a good way for the probability of injuries to increase imho. |
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Jason Millen
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Location: Saint Louis, MO Joined: 01.28.2016
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So you want me to make some sort of sound byte for you to make some extra drama because someone said something they are going to say?
I love how the media is full of idiots and these hockey guys have been giving it back to them. Now that you apre the media Jammer I can say you have not fallen into the trap so far. - BluemanGuruu
The last coach you should try that with is Cooper who is a lawyer by trade, lol.
And nope, I'll still not media here. No press pass here, just a regular joe. |
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BluemanGuruu
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Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO Joined: 06.28.2007
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The last coach you should try that with is Cooper who is a lawyer by trade, lol.
And nope, I'll still not media here. No press pass here, just a regular joe. - Jason Millen
I do believe henis not the only layer that coaches.
I was in Fairbanks when he won the JRs Championship for Chase's team.
No press pass but publishing makes you a part of the media. Not all media is bad just the newspaper writers and apparently the staff at NBC and much of the NHL network.
If you ever feel like having some fun check out Michael Crichton's critique of the New York Times and their articles relating to science. I broke one such article down for a class and actually did the research. It was not even close. |
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Jason Millen
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Location: Saint Louis, MO Joined: 01.28.2016
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I do believe henis not the only layer that coaches.
I was in Fairbanks when he won the JRs Championship for Chase's team.
No press pass but publishing makes you a part of the media. Not all media is bad just the newspaper writers and apparently the staff at NBC and much of the NHL network. - BluemanGuruu
Publishing? Aw man. I just thought this was "Deep Thoughts by jammer"
Like maybe Hitch and DeBoer should heed this - "Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you are a mile away from them and you have their shoes." (I realize both were joking in their media banter and it wasn't really bad)
Changed one word in this one...
"To me, hockey is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other."
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Jason Millen
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Location: Saint Louis, MO Joined: 01.28.2016
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Are you guys ready?
Hoping the team is ready.
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carcus
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Location: #Winnington Joined: 02.12.2009
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Are you guys ready?
Hoping the team is ready.
- Jason Millen
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BluemanGuruu
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Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO Joined: 06.28.2007
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You guys are silly. When you are arguing with San Jose fans about the dirty acts their players committed what do you think the result will be of such an argument?
So it makes me wonder what the purpose is and I can only think it has more to do with someone believing you can punish Sharks fans for their playrs actions. That is not reality.
Just gripe about that stuff here and get you catharsis out right here with understanding friends who share the same care.
This is essentially why I consider what many of the Sharks fans did after game two as nothing more than trolling. They shownup in droves after a win and after a loss you have one or two guys that are usually really into hockey. Except of course the one guy whose behavior fits the kind of person that gets off on setting fires and torturing small animals.
Those punches should cost games. I want to say especially the Thorton sucker punch because that coud actually kill a person. I know a guy who is jail for such a punch though not in a hockey game.
Let it be.
Remember our team is one of four left battling for the Cup. Enjoy the moment. Yeah if it is taken away from us because Burns gave Backes cross checks that cross the line and two handed him with incredible force on the back of the knee. I have rarely seen anyone make those moves with that level of ferocity.
But have fun nonetheless. We have no control. |
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BluemanGuruu
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Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO Joined: 06.28.2007
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Publishing? Aw man. I just thought this was "Deep Thoughts by jammer"
Like maybe Hitch and DeBoer should heed this - "Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you are a mile away from them and you have their shoes." (I realize both were joking in their media banter and it wasn't really bad)
Changed one word in this one...
"To me, hockey is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other." - Jason Millen
That is some good stuff.
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mxgsfmdpx
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: CA Joined: 03.17.2009
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The hit by Burns on Brouwer was illegal. He hit him from behind. Now that is a bad hit. That should have cost him a game. - BluemanGuruu
Dear Lord... You are like the Blues version of the "BeastMode" guy who frequents the Sharks blogs on here.
Lots of babble... Little intellect. |
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mxgsfmdpx
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: CA Joined: 03.17.2009
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Hull16
St Louis Blues |
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Location: St.Louis, MO Joined: 07.04.2006
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JMO, but Allen doesn't look good early. We're lucky they have missed the net on some quality chances. He looks lost. |
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Hull16
St Louis Blues |
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Location: St.Louis, MO Joined: 07.04.2006
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JMO, but Allen doesn't look good early. We're lucky they have missed the net on some quality chances. He looks lost. - Hull16
He made 2 monster saves right after I posted that. Maybe I should say that about everyone on the team. |
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howiehandles
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Location: IL Joined: 06.18.2010
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Why do I have to say it all the time? Told you guys you'd love Troy.
While I miss the Hawks not being in the party, it certainly is less stressful. Just remember to breathe guys. This is supposed to be fun. |
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Antilles
St Louis Blues |
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Joined: 10.17.2008
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Terrible call. As Kerry Fraser said on twitter, should have been 4 min each. |
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