I don't think I have ever compared Perron and Marner. I am amused by your allowing me to play Pelagius to your arguments of Christian orthodoxy. But, if you want to put words in mouth you can say "My friend Spatso might have said." In this way you give me a form of soft philosophical attribution even though we both know that I never actually said what was noted.
- spatso

This probably doesn't even make sense to you either. Please. Don't spatso my Giroux with your Pageau.

When I need some help in changing the team I root for, I'll be sure to send you a PM.
- RickJames77

c'mon... we all know you are a Whalers fan at heart.
- BorjeFan4Ever

Send help immediately:

Perhaps it is more complicated than that. I have always liked the Leaf team. I grew up in Northern Ontario watching the Leafs every Saturday night with my grandfather. We both loved the Leafs. We also watched wrestling together.

I was the last in family to migrate over to become a Sens fan. I live in a small village outside Ottawa and it is all Senators. Most people still think I am a Leaf fan and the love to tease me over the Leaf struggles. I don't have the heart to take away their fun. So, I still play the role of the wounded Leaf fanatic.

In some ways it gives me a more objective perspective than a lot of Leaf fans who are prepared to organize a Stanley Cup parade each time Leaf management comes to a decision. I, as many of you know, do not have a lot of patience for those who drink the blue kool aid and then try to sell the agenda without any further thought.

I am hugely impressed by Shanahan and all the guys he has hired. They seem to be going about their jobs in a very professional way. No excessive hype, no over the top promises. But we need to still face the reality that the Leafs are a last place team. Remember Edmonton has drafted first many, many times and they still struggle. Nobody in the Leaf front office has suggested that this is going to be an easy or short process. Sometimes I wonder why fans allow their hopes to become so unrealistic.
- spatso

And yet you're pleased your gm traded for Phaneuf, an over paid vet, just to miss the playoffs. You drank that all down in one shot then came here to piss it out.

And the Oilers are the only example you site of a rebuilding team with a first overall pick. As if the Islanders, Tampa, Hawks, Pens etx never happened.

absolutely ... get it done before the draft

btw...

we need to understand if Phaneuf is now significantly better than he was in Toronto - and if so - why?

while we're at it .. we should increase the package ... definitely need to also get Pageau because he's better than Giroux.

Do It Now...







- BorjeFan4Ever

Need Perron..... He's making marner look bad. How can we get giroux pageau and Perron and cecci?


You think Matthews and marner and Reilly and nylander gets it done of we have to add our 1st next year too?

wait... wait..

who was it that compared Pageau to Giroux?
- BorjeFan4Ever

I only ever compared their junior careers having watched them both play for the Piques. Said Pageau was a wizard with the puck like Giroux. However you might want to compare Pageau and Giroux numbers for their first full year in NHL. They are surprisingly similar.

Do you honestly know how much a defenseman that lead ALL in scoring at the worlds, but actually fisnished 4th?


Priceless.
- burn

not just anyone can do that... its an accomplishment.

but I'd forgotten - we have Corrado - who according to a portion of the Canuckleheads is a future Olympian - so we don't need to acquire Ceci... let's stay with Olympian ...

Perhaps it is more complicated than that. I have always liked the Leaf team. I grew up in Northern Ontario watching the Leafs every Saturday night with my grandfather. We both loved the Leafs. We also watched wrestling together.

I was the last in family to migrate over to become a Sens fan. I live in a small village outside Ottawa and it is all Senators. Most people still think I am a Leaf fan and the love to tease me over the Leaf struggles. I don't have the heart to take away their fun. So, I still play the role of the wounded Leaf fanatic.

In some ways it gives me a more objective perspective than a lot of Leaf fans who are prepared to organize a Stanley Cup parade each time Leaf management comes to a decision. I, as many of you know, do not have a lot of patience for those who drink the blue kool aid and then try to sell the agenda without any further thought.

I am hugely impressed by Shanahan and all the guys he has hired. They seem to be going about their jobs in a very professional way. No excessive hype, no over the top promises. But we need to still face the reality that the Leafs are a last place team. Remember Edmonton has drafted first many, many times and they still struggle. Nobody in the Leaf front office has suggested that this is going to be an easy or short process. Sometimes I wonder why fans allow their hopes to become so unrealistic.
- spatso

Perhaps it is more complicated than that. I have always liked the Leaf team. I grew up in Northern Ontario watching the Leafs every Saturday night with my grandfather. We both loved the Leafs. We also watched wrestling together.

I was the last in family to migrate over to become a Sens fan. I live in a small village outside Ottawa and it is all Senators. Most people still think I am a Leaf fan and the love to tease me over the Leaf struggles. I don't have the heart to take away their fun. So, I still play the role of the wounded Leaf fanatic.

In some ways it gives me a more objective perspective than a lot of Leaf fans who are prepared to organize a Stanley Cup parade each time Leaf management comes to a decision. I, as many of you know, do not have a lot of patience for those who drink the blue kool aid and then try to sell the agenda without any further thought.

I am hugely impressed by Shanahan and all the guys he has hired. They seem to be going about their jobs in a very professional way. No excessive hype, no over the top promises. But we need to still face the reality that the Leafs are a last place team. Remember Edmonton has drafted first many, many times and they still struggle. Nobody in the Leaf front office has suggested that this is going to be an easy or short process. Sometimes I wonder why fans allow their hopes to become so unrealistic.
- spatso

What hopes are fans allowing to be unrealistic? Pretty sure most on here understand there is still a long ways to go. At least they're going somewhere..

I only ever compared their junior careers having watched them both play for the Piques. Said Pageau was a wizard with the puck like Giroux. However you might want to compare Pageau and Giroux numbers for their first full year in NHL. They are surprisingly similar.
- spatso

So we can expect Pageau to get 90 pts now? You know since they're so similar? Oh look Kadri is a Giroux now too!

And yet you're pleased your gm traded for Phaneuf, an over paid vet, just to miss the playoffs. You drank that all down in one shot then came here to piss it out.

And the Oilers are the only example you site of a rebuilding team with a first overall pick. As if the Islanders, Tampa, Hawks, Pens etx never happened.
- systemtool

Yes, I like the deal a lot. Ceci is ready to play #3 and Phaneuf is great support for him. It is not like he will be logging the kind of minutes he did with the Leafs.

Yes, I like the deal a lot. Ceci is ready to play #3 and Phaneuf is great support for him. It is not like he will be logging the kind of minutes he did with the Leafs.
- spatso

Keep drinking the kool aid.

A 7 million dollar number 4 Dman. Good job Ottawa. Take pride. Be happy.

Yes, I like the deal a lot. Ceci is ready to play #3 and Phaneuf is great support for him. It is not like he will be logging the kind of minutes he did with the Leafs.
- spatso

Phaneuf won't be very good. Might have an ok year this year then it's going to be bad

What hopes are fans allowing to be unrealistic? Pretty sure most on here understand there is still a long ways to go. At least they're going somewhere..
- ClarksonDavid

I have a buddy who believes Leafs will contend this coming year.

I have a buddy who believes Leafs will contend this coming year.
- spatso

You also believe the Sens can contend this coming year. No wonder you're buddies.

Need Perron..... He's making marner look bad. How can we get giroux pageau and Perron and cecci?


You think Matthews and marner and Reilly and nylander gets it done of we have to add our 1st next year too?
- burn

Two firsts and a second.

and those are Oiler firsts.

I have a buddy who believes Leafs will contend this coming year.
- spatso

You have one buddy who thinks that so must mean all leaf fans think so

You have one buddy who thinks that so must me all leaf fans think so
- ClarksonDavid

Yea. Kinda weird how his boyfriend speaks for millions.

Perhaps it is more complicated than that. I have always liked the Leaf team. I grew up in Northern Ontario watching the Leafs every Saturday night with my grandfather. We both loved the Leafs. We also watched wrestling together.

I was the last in family to migrate over to become a Sens fan. I live in a small village outside Ottawa and it is all Senators. Most people still think I am a Leaf fan and the love to tease me over the Leaf struggles. I don't have the heart to take away their fun. So, I still play the role of the wounded Leaf fanatic.

In some ways it gives me a more objective perspective than a lot of Leaf fans who are prepared to organize a Stanley Cup parade each time Leaf management comes to a decision. I, as many of you know, do not have a lot of patience for those who drink the blue kool aid and then try to sell the agenda without any further thought.

I am hugely impressed by Shanahan and all the guys he has hired. They seem to be going about their jobs in a very professional way. No excessive hype, no over the top promises. But we need to still face the reality that the Leafs are a last place team. Remember Edmonton has drafted first many, many times and they still struggle. Nobody in the Leaf front office has suggested that this is going to be an easy or short process. Sometimes I wonder why fans allow their hopes to become so unrealistic.
- spatso

Put
The
Glue
Away

You
(frank)ing
Elmer

If spending your time on here looking for attention makes you feel like you're a somebody, maybe you should get someone to titbow you and throw you down the hallway like the shopsy you are

Phaneuf won't be very good. Might have an ok year this year then it's going to be bad
- ClarksonDavid

See the Chara contract

and at least he was #1 defenseman for the majority of it

See the Chara contract

and at least he was #1 defenseman for the majority of it
- RickJames77

Remember Redden?

Perhaps it is more complicated than that. I have always liked the Leaf team. I grew up in Northern Ontario watching the Leafs every Saturday night with my grandfather. We both loved the Leafs. We also watched wrestling together.

I was the last in family to migrate over to become a Sens fan. I live in a small village outside Ottawa and it is all Senators. Most people still think I am a Leaf fan and the love to tease me over the Leaf struggles. I don't have the heart to take away their fun. So, I still play the role of the wounded Leaf fanatic.

In some ways it gives me a more objective perspective than a lot of Leaf fans who are prepared to organize a Stanley Cup parade each time Leaf management comes to a decision. I, as many of you know, do not have a lot of patience for those who drink the blue kool aid and then try to sell the agenda without any further thought.

I am hugely impressed by Shanahan and all the guys he has hired. They seem to be going about their jobs in a very professional way. No excessive hype, no over the top promises. But we need to still face the reality that the Leafs are a last place team. Remember Edmonton has drafted first many, many times and they still struggle. Nobody in the Leaf front office has suggested that this is going to be an easy or short process. Sometimes I wonder why fans allow their hopes to become so unrealistic.
- spatso

I have an unrealistic hope that maybe you'll (frank) off...?

See the Chara contract

and at least he was #1 defenseman for the majority of it
- RickJames77

It's hilarious that leafs were able to dump that contract, the fact he went to the Sens is just hilarious actually.

Remember Redden?
- systemtool

How can you not? Isn't there a Redden Rule that is about not burying players' contracts in the A? Or something like that?

Perhaps it is more complicated than that. I have always liked the Leaf team. I grew up in Northern Ontario watching the Leafs every Saturday night with my grandfather. We both loved the Leafs. We also watched wrestling together.

I was the last in family to migrate over to become a Sens fan. I live in a small village outside Ottawa and it is all Senators. Most people still think I am a Leaf fan and the love to tease me over the Leaf struggles. I don't have the heart to take away their fun. So, I still play the role of the wounded Leaf fanatic.

In some ways it gives me a more objective perspective than a lot of Leaf fans who are prepared to organize a Stanley Cup parade each time Leaf management comes to a decision. I, as many of you know, do not have a lot of patience for those who drink the blue kool aid and then try to sell the agenda without any further thought.

I am hugely impressed by Shanahan and all the guys he has hired. They seem to be going about their jobs in a very professional way. No excessive hype, no over the top promises. But we need to still face the reality that the Leafs are a last place team. Remember Edmonton has drafted first many, many times and they still struggle. Nobody in the Leaf front office has suggested that this is going to be an easy or short process. Sometimes I wonder why fans allow their hopes to become so unrealistic.
- spatso

Let us know where the parade is going... I want to be sure to get a good spot.

Ya - I know the Leafs are definitely winning the cup this year... I'm surprised the Gary hasn't come out and announced already... we'll just forgo the season altogether.




seriously, you know the Habs are winning the cup next year don't you... they are just a goalie away from contention