Both have hit their stride and they both kick ass
- AdamFrench

Well Tavares did that one game anyway.

Yeah. What bothered me earlier was the usual suspects rehashing the trade. Some fans were intelligent enough to know any deal sending Kessel away wouldn't return what we hoped, others want to believe there was or would eventually have been a better deal.
- BetterCallSaul

It's like how you always will lose on selling a used car, even if it's a valuable one. Unless it's a collector car. And athletes aren't collector cars.

That's part of the risk of big contracts in the cap era too, you are going to sacrifice talent value to claw back cap commitments, it's just a law of the universe now.

To be fair, would you?

We seem to be on the extreme ends of the scale
- walshyleafsfan

I can't believe Tanner does

At least you got the Puft part.
- the_eye

Well because I liked Phil and I don't care much for Bozak, JVR and Bernier.
If they were going for culture change why did they even re-sign Bernier and I care for him the least so It kind of pissed me off.
- the_eye

What options were there at the time

Well because I liked Phil and I don't care much for Bozak, JVR and Bernier.
If they were going for culture change why did they even re-sign Bernier and i care for him the least so It kind of pissed me off.
- the_eye

I liked (I mean loved Grabbo and Ian White). Glad as (frank) they are gone though. The thing with the Kessel trade is the big picture. That, along with the Clarkson and Dion deals have helped this club immensely going forward.

What were we gonna do. Have Kessel play out these 3 or 4 seasons for poops and giggles and then trade him after 3 more subpar seasons?

Both have hit their stride and they both kick ass
- AdamFrench

Anyone 25yrs old or older is past their prime

-Glucky

The thing with Kessel too is that it makes sense for Pittsburgh to go all-in right now, they have to, it's the Crosby/Malkin window. The timing with where the Leafs were in a cap system was a totally different situation.
- Zezel

But if they want to sign Stamkos why would they dump Kessel?
The 14 million Bozak, JVR and Bernier make would have been more than enough.

I don't understand why people aren't grasping why Phil got traded. Our fan base.

Shouldn't have traded Phil
Shouldn't have traded Colbourne
Shouldn't have traded Panik.

Stamkos is too old for a rebuild, but Kessel isn't


- walshyleafsfan

With Leafs Nation, if the day ever comes, some fans will be complaining about the parade route.

Anyone 25yrs old or older is past their prime

-Glucky
- Symba007

They need to lower the draft age to 13

Well Tavares did that one game anyway.
- the_eye

When the (frank) will the Isles fire that poop stain Capuano?

With Leafs Nation, if the day ever comes, some fans will be complaining about the parade route.
- Zezel

Anyone 25yrs old or older is past their prime

-Glucky
- Symba007

I'm almost doubly past my prime then.

(frank) YOU GLUCKY

With Leafs Nation, if the day ever comes, some fans will be complaining about the parade route.
- Zezel

What do you mean "if"?

When the (frank) will the Isles fire that poop stain Capuano?
- AdamFrench

Just after the GM for acquiring such a poope lineup. Look at the names on that team. They did bloody well to make the playoffs

But if they want to sign Stamkos why would they dump Kessel?
The 14 million Bozak, JVR and Bernier make would have been more than enough.
- the_eye

Matthews is the correct answer.

But if they want to sign Stamkos why would they dump Kessel?
The 14 million Bozak, JVR and Bernier make would have been more than enough.
- the_eye

You said yourself Bernier is untradeable. So we gotta keep that money. Who's taking Bozak without giving salary back?

Anyone 25yrs old or older is past their prime

-Glucky
- Symba007

Glucky should stop watching Logan's Run.

I'm almost doubly past my prime then.

(frank) YOU GLUCKY
- Garnie

Youngen, I'll be 53 June 6th, yeah D-Day.

Anyone 25yrs old or older is past their prime

-Glucky
- Symba007

There is one of these believers too on the Sabres threaad.

Travis Yost was on our local radio this afternoon and said that he is 85% sure Stamkos is going to Toronto.

Alfsly, great post.

The politics guy has made the Epic Thread.

But if they want to sign Stamkos why would they dump Kessel?
The 14 million Bozak, JVR and Bernier make would have been more than enough.
- the_eye

Because they decided to reset and rebuild. They couldn't count on Stamkos at the time. They were going to cut bait and rebuild anyway. Stamkos could possibly be a bonus to bring in now, after the rebuild appears to be doing well.

But if they want to sign Stamkos why would they dump Kessel?
The 14 million Bozak, JVR and Bernier make would have been more than enough.
- the_eye

Cuz Berniers done after this year...JVR is worth his contract...if Bozo can stay healthy...he'll be traded too.

What do you mean "if"?
- Steven_Seagull

You're right, of course, it's when. The prophecy will be fulfilled.

Youngen, I'll be 53 June 5th, yeah D-Day.
- the_eye

No wonder you're so cranky

You said yourself Bernier is untradeable. So we gotta keep that money. Who's taking Bozak without giving salary back?
- walshyleafsfan

Bernier is now, but I was talking about when the management was bringing up culture change before the new contract.
Some GM would have given him a shot.