There's a word for that, isn't there?
- 1979AD

A couple come to mind, yeah.

- daeth

The Jet Fuel argument is possibly the most moronic argument there is. Which is why it is the argument that is constantly being repeated (I'm sure a lot of the time by government shills), while actual information that without a doubt proves that it was a false flag are brushed aside.

The Jet Fuel argument is possibly the most moronic argument there is. Which is why it is the argument that is constantly being repeated (I'm sure a lot of the time by government shills), while actual information that without a doubt proves that it was a false flag are brushed aside.
- cesareborgia

you're like the hipster of conspiracy theorists. i feel bad for you though, i honestly do. i won't continue the convo, i just hope you eventually get the help you need. not trolling, i mean it.

There is no right side. We're completely (frank)ed. There would need to be a global revolution to change anything, unfortunately people are just too busy in their everyday lives to understand just how (frank)ed we really are.
- cesareborgia

Is that because people's everyday lives are generally too comfortable/enjoyable to drop everything for the purpose of fighting a global revolution?

This guy has you all spinning for fun.

I used to do this stuff when I was a kid. He's not preaching, he's bored.
- BetterCallSaul

I genuinely want to wake up fellow human beings. If just one person reading this forum decides to look for the truth, and ignores all the "where's your tinfoil hat" idiots, I've succeeded.

Pull it
- cesareborgia

Punches? I refuse, sir. Please elaborate on your "theory". I'm all ears.

you're like the hipster of conspiracy theorists. i feel bad for you though, i honestly do. i won't continue the convo, i just hope you eventually get the help you need. not trolling, i mean it.
- daeth

So what do you suggest Cesare (sister (frank)er)
- Seanook

Just get informed. Realize what is happening. That everything is a lie and a smokescreen. Then, wake up your fellow man. It's frustrating as we're taught to automatically dismiss those "crazy ol' conspiracy theorists" and most people haven't got a clue. But eventually you'll intrigue someone, and it can start a domino effect.

Things are more than likely hopeless anyways, but I can't just stand by idly.

- burn

I know, right?

Where do you get your info from

Alright, I'll bite.

During Obama’s first term, the number of Americans on food stamps increased by an average of about 11,000 per day.

At the beginning of the Obama era, 32 million Americans were on food stamps. Today, more than 47 million Americans are on food stamps.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, more than 146 million Americans are either “poor” or “low income” at this point.

During the first four years of Obama, the number of Americans “not in the labor force” soared by an astounding 8,332,000. That far exceeds any previous four year total.

The Obama years have been absolutely devastating for small businesses in America. According to economist Tim Kane, the following is how the number of startup jobs per 1000 Americans breaks down by presidential administration…

Bush Sr.: 11.3

Clinton: 11.2

Bush Jr.: 10.8

Obama: 7.8

Median household income in America has fallen for four consecutive years. Overall, it has declined by over $4000 during that time span.

The United States has fallen in the global economic competitiveness rankings compiled by the World Economic Forum for four years in a row.

Under Barack Obama, the United States has lost more than 300,000 education jobs.

Electricity bills in the United States have risen faster than the overall rate of inflation for five years in a row.

Health insurance costs have risen by 29 percent since Barack Obama became president.

The U.S. government has run a budget deficit of well over a trillion dollars every single year under Barack Obama.

When Barack Obama was first elected, the U.S. debt to GDP ratio was under 70 percent. Today, it is up to 103 percent.

During Obama’s first term, the federal government accumulated more debt than it did under the first 42 U.S presidents combined.

Carried out military interventionism in Libya without Congressional approval

Gave a no-bid contract to Halliburton – just like Bush did

Has an administration full of lobbyists, after promising he wouldn’t have any

Allowed abuse of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay to become even worse than it was under Bush

Supported the $700 billion TARP corporate-welfare bailout just like Bush

Gave tax dollars to AIG executives, then pretended to be outraged about it

Supported Bush’s unconstitutional Patriot Act

Agrees with Bush’s support of unconstitutional, indefinite detention of U.S. citizens without filing any charges

Avoided prosecution of Wall. St criminals

Just like Bush, Obama has done an excellent job of helping his handlers destroy his country. Except he's doing it a much more accelerated pace than Bush. Neither is better than the other. Both are equally (frank)ed.

Arguing which one is better is about the most pointless thing you can do.
- cesareborgia

Wow, you've done some incredible independent thinking here.

Or maybe not:

http://www.goldworth.com/...e-wrecked-the-u-s-economy

I genuinely want to wake up fellow human beings. If just one person reading this forum decides to look for the truth, and ignores all the "where's your tinfoil hat" idiots, I've succeeded.
- cesareborgia

Are you 10 years ago me? I used to be able to carry this on for days.

you're like the hipster of conspiracy theorists. i feel bad for you though, i honestly do. i won't continue the convo, i just hope you eventually get the help you need. not trolling, i mean it.
- daeth

Yes, I'm the hipster of conspiracy theorists because I talk about the one that is beyond a doubt BS. The one where you need half a brain to see. All the info is out there, you're just to ignorant to take 20 minutes of your life to discover it.

Start with the Gulf of Tonkin, and Operation Northwoods, admitted false flags. That's how I got my buddy to wake up. Maybe it will work with you.

If in 2016 you still think 9/11 was a legit act of terrorism, and not an inside job, you are likely hopeless, or just extremely ignorant. All you need is half a brain to see the truth, really.

But I guess 2 planes knocking down 3 skyscrapers is just natural.
- cesareborgia

Are you gonna shut the (frank) up already you (frank)ing idiot?

Just get informed. Realize what is happening. That everything is a lie and a smokescreen. Then, wake up your fellow man. It's frustrating as we're taught to automatically dismiss those "crazy ol' conspiracy theorists" and most people haven't got a clue. But eventually you'll intrigue someone, and it can start a domino effect.

Things are more than likely hopeless anyways, but I can't just stand by idly.
- cesareborgia

Did you ever consider that dropping into a hockey blog thread and conducting yourself like a "crazy ol' conspiracy theorist" might actually be more counterproductive to your quest than just standing idly by?

Punches? I refuse, sir. Please elaborate on your "theory". I'm all ears.
- PepinoPamplemousse

Haven't you heard silverstein's famous "pull it" for building 7, where there was only a small fire

Because 90% of people (probably more, I'm being optimistic) cannot, or just refuse to see the big picture.
- cesareborgia

So.... You're saying that there's more than meets the eye... that's it's an elaborate conspiracy...


STEE, YOU'RE FINALLY BACK!!!

you're like the hipster of conspiracy theorists. i feel bad for you though, i honestly do. i won't continue the convo, i just hope you eventually get the help you need. not trolling, i mean it.
- daeth

I'm so using this as my location!

Are you gonna shut the (frank) up already you (frank)ing idiot?
- Pecafan Fan

People like you make me sad. So deceived. So clueless.

Wow, you've done some incredible independent thinking here.

Or maybe not:

http://www.goldworth.com/...e-wrecked-the-u-s-economy
- Atomic Wedgie

Have you ever been a high school teacher?

Wow, you've done some incredible independent thinking here.

Or maybe not:

http://www.goldworth.com/...e-wrecked-the-u-s-economy
- Atomic Wedgie

And boom goes the dynamite...

Wow, you've done some incredible independent thinking here.

Or maybe not:

http://www.goldworth.com/...e-wrecked-the-u-s-economy
- Atomic Wedgie

d0pps = cesare?

this guy is great

Can't believe you're all letting him troll you