Heres the full Kessel interview from TSN. Its the actual broadcast, not recorded off a TV screen.

http://www.tsn.ca/must-se...m-about-bad-breath~873432

Every time I think of Hagelin I think of that insane poster who came in and wrote a novel about how Hagelin is a psychopath and we shouldn't get too attached to him because he's a sadist and will screw us over on purpose for pleasure. Not sure if he was a Rangers or a Michigan fan but it was (frank)ig hilarious
- Victoro311

I remember that too. I think he was also saying he would just end up breaking our hearts or some sh!t...

I remember that too. I think he was also saying he would just end up breaking our hearts or some sh!t...
- MattStrat

It was easily the weirdest post I've ever read on hockey buzz. He was convinced Hagelin was a cereal killer or some poop.

back in january: sammy: Im sorry but look at the roster and honestly tell me its that great?

Once again a few are asked to carry the many.

Kunitz-old
Kessel-disoppointment
Bonino-Sucks
Plot-not a NHL player
BB- sucks and on IR (surprise)
Cullen-Old
Fehr-Vanilla
PH-fell off a cliff
Lovejoy-sucks
Cole - Sucks
Dumo-good
Maata-Not what he was 2 yrs ago
Daley-a step above Scuds

Every time I think of Hagelin I think of that insane poster who came in and wrote a novel about how Hagelin is a psychopath and we shouldn't get too attached to him because he's a sadist and will screw us over on purpose for pleasure. Not sure if he was a Rangers or a Michigan fan but it was (frank)ig hilarious
- Victoro311

Reading through the comments when the Hagelin trade happened is comical.

It was easily the weirdest post I've ever read on hockey buzz. He was convinced Hagelin was a cereal killer or some poop.
- Victoro311

Sorry, Murray what?

Reading through the comments when the Hagelin trade happened is comical.
- cap1681

Refresh my memory. IIRC, a lot of us thought Perron needed to be sent packing because absent his first 2.5 weeks here, he sucked ass. I thought many liked the Hagelin deal.

back in january: sammy: Im sorry but look at the roster and honestly tell me its that great?

Once again a few are asked to carry the many.

Kunitz-old
Kessel-disoppointment
Bonino-Sucks
Plot-not a NHL player
BB- sucks and on IR (surprise)
Cullen-Old
Fehr-Vanilla
PH-fell off a cliff
Lovejoy-sucks
Cole - Sucks
Dumo-good
Maata-Not what he was 2 yrs ago
Daley-a step above Scuds

- martox

Gotta give credit where credit is due. Kunitz and Cullen are old and he was right about Plotnikov

back in january: sammy: Im sorry but look at the roster and honestly tell me its that great?

Once again a few are asked to carry the many.

Kunitz-old
Kessel-disoppointment
Bonino-Sucks
Plot-not a NHL player
BB- sucks and on IR (surprise)
Cullen-Old
Fehr-Vanilla
PH-fell off a cliff
Lovejoy-sucks
Cole - Sucks
Dumo-good
Maata-Not what he was 2 yrs ago
Daley-a step above Scuds

- martox

Well, in fairness to him, at the time when he posted this, a lot of this was true. Then the coaching changed happened; Hagelin was brought in and the HBK line took flight. Before that, Bonino wasn't good. PK wasn't doing what he is doing now.

He was right about Plot and Bennett and still is. He is right about Maatta too unfortunately.

Gotta give credit where credit is due. Kunitz and Cullen are old and he was right about Plotnikov

- Victoro311

He was right about Bennett and Maatta too.

Refresh my memory. IIRC, a lot of us thought Perron needed to be sent packing because absent his first 2.5 weeks here, he sucked ass. I thought many liked the Hagelin deal.
- Oneonta Penguin

Not at the time because if you remember Hagelin had 9 points with the ducks by the time he was traded and was on the books for 4 years at 4 mil. It was definitely a very risky play. I wasn't thrilled with it at all because I thought Perron was doing a lot of things right and was going to break out soon, but I understood the logic as an asset strapped team turning a top 6 winger that was going to walk on us at the end of the season into a top 9 winger we had locked up long term. It was risky but it panned out, thank the Lord.

He was right about Bennett and Maatta too.
- Oneonta Penguin

When someone makes that many negative claims at once, a few are bound to be right, or almost right.

Well, in fairness to him, at the time when he posted this, a lot of this was true. Then the coaching changed happened; Hagelin was brought in and the HBK line took flight.

He was right about Plot and Bennett and still is. He is right about Maatta too unfortunately.
- Oneonta Penguin

ye I'll give him that. at the same time pretty much every person exccept me and a few others said horny was a 3rd line player... we are really quick being down on players on this board

Refresh my memory. IIRC, a lot of us thought Perron needed to be sent packing because absent his first 2.5 weeks here, he sucked ass. I thought many liked the Hagelin deal.
- Oneonta Penguin

No, it was about 50/50. According to the people upset with it, giving up Perron and a "defensive prospect" in Clendening and taking a guy with term was a bad trade. Aussie Penguins and Dcoms (who hasn't posted here in a while) were the big advocates against the trade.

Refresh my memory. IIRC, a lot of us thought Perron needed to be sent packing because absent his first 2.5 weeks here, he sucked ass. I thought many liked the Hagelin deal.
- Oneonta Penguin

it was about 50/50. I am reading the old blogs atm to find that crazy NYR comment

Not at the time because if you remember Hagelin had 9 points with the ducks by the time he was traded and was on the books for 4 years at 4 mil. It was definitely a very risky play. I wasn't thrilled with it at all because I thought Perron was doing a lot of things right and was going to break out soon, but I understood the logic as an asset strapped team turning a top 6 winger that was going to walk on us at the end of the season into a top 9 winger we had locked up long term. It was risky but it panned out, thank the Lord.
- Victoro311

Even if Hags wasnt producing as much as he is I'd still want him on the team. His defensive game is stellar and he's one of the best PK'ers I've ever seen the Pens have. Ever.

Every time I think of Hagelin I think of that insane poster who came in and wrote a novel about how Hagelin is a psychopath and we shouldn't get too attached to him because he's a sadist and will screw us over on purpose for pleasure. Not sure if he was a Rangers or a Michigan fan but it was (frank)ig hilarious
- Victoro311

That guy was great. It was like he was Hagelin's scorned lover.

No, it was about 50/50. According to the people upset with it, giving up Perron and a "defensive prospect" in Clendening and taking a guy with term was a bad trade. Aussie Penguins and Dcoms (who hasn't posted here in a while) were the big advocates against the trade.
- cap1681

That's cus Aussie was obsessed with "dinger" and Dcoms automatically assumes any prospect that isn't in the lineup is the savior of the team and the coaching staff are being idiots for not playing them.

Refresh my memory. IIRC, a lot of us thought Perron needed to be sent packing because absent his first 2.5 weeks here, he sucked ass. I thought many liked the Hagelin deal.
- Oneonta Penguin

Hagelin wasn't liked at first because he had term. I remember being hammered at 3am or so and seeing we made the trade. At first I was ecstatic. Woke up the next day and was still pumped on the trade. Oh and we also gave up the great Adam Clendening. That was too much for some to handle.

it was about 50/50. I am reading the old blogs atm to find that crazy NYR comment
- martox

That comment was long after he was acquired. I think it was at the beginning of the HBK dominance in March. Maybe late February.

found this gem by our aussie when we got hags:
rutherford is a (frank)ING JOKE!!!

Hagelin is worse than Peron, but JR throws in a capable young Dman just because!

Wow

Dinger has completed one of the best breakout passes that any of the D have (some haven't even), plays 2 games & is benched for guys playing average.

Oh well. Where's Sammy, I want some pessimism! Hagelin is garbage this season from what I've seen (reported - don't listen to or watch Ducks games)!

(frank) if I'm the Ducks GM, I'm warming up a coffee for a Malkin trade for a 2nd round pick!

Hagelin wasn't liked at first because he had term. I remember being hammered at 3am or so and seeing we made the trade. At first I was ecstatic. Woke up the next day and was still pumped on the trade. Oh and we also gave up the great Adam Clendening. That was too much for some to handle.
- znagle58

Yeah I had just come back from a long night of drinking in Nashville. I wasn't pissed or extatic. I was mostly confused and wasn't super thrilled about it. It was a very even kiel reaction for how drunk I was.

That comment was long after he was acquired. I think it was at the beginning of the HBK dominance in March. Maybe late February.
- Victoro311

you sure?

Not at the time because if you remember Hagelin had 9 points with the ducks by the time he was traded and was on the books for 4 years at 4 mil. It was definitely a very risky play. I wasn't thrilled with it at all because I thought Perron was doing a lot of things right and was going to break out soon, but I understood the logic as an asset strapped team turning a top 6 winger that was going to walk on us at the end of the season into a top 9 winger we had locked up long term. It was risky but it panned out, thank the Lord.
- Victoro311

Perron sucked. There was no denying that. Hagelin was in a terrible position in Anaheim. As someone brought it up, people were more pissed about some random eighth/ninth Dman being sent packing in that deal along with Perron. What was his name again? Exactly. He never played a single game for Anaheim; was released not too long after ... claimed by Edmonton, which has the worst defense in the league and only played 20 games for them. So ... people got up in arms for losing a Dman that couldn't see much action on the Edmonton blueline. That should tell people about Clendenning.