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Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 18 @ 9:16 AM ET
That's a lot of work for PC to screw himself over. No way. Edmonton ends up with the poop end of the stick.

How about the Oilers trade RNH for Brodin and Grandlund and call er square?

- Jeropotato


ya even i can admit after looking at it again, there was not enough going to Edmontn. although a line of Laine McDavid Hartnell would be fun for Oiler fans to watch. I do think RNH ends up in Minny.
striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

May 18 @ 10:27 AM ET
JETSWIN

Only as there isn't any room on the 23 man roster for Connor yet baring a trade. Wavers starts to play an issue with almost all of these players & not certain Winnipeg currently has room. Connor may have to play in the AHL briefly. I didn't have Armia on the 12 man forward roster either & he's also ready to start his NHL career. Some of these prospects may be held back solely for business reasons essentially waver eligibility. Being allowed to be sent down as opposed to Winnipeg wanting to expose a player that would have to clear & wouldn't.

That said, I did stash him; Connor, away in 2 of my 3 fantasy leagues months before he was really on anyone's radar except I got scooped in my 3rd fantasy league by a GM that is in 1 of the others a week after selecting him in the other 2 & there is always room at the top. If he steals a job say like Larkin did in Detroit, Winnipeg will make room very quickly.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 18 @ 10:37 AM ET
you're better than this. you're trying to reason with spatso, ffs.
- Gramps28


That's... You raise a good point.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

May 18 @ 11:01 AM ET
and why would columbus do this? waiting in the bushes
- redsfanhere


I dont think they would at all, it doesnt make any sense for CBJ to make any moves at all with this pick unless somehow they have Laine ranked absurdly higher than the entire draft. CBJ is in the most comfortable position because they get the last of the consensus top 3, zero risk there and no second guessing. They have a potential 1st liner who will likely be in the NHL next season and they dont even need to pretend to think about their pick.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

May 18 @ 11:02 AM ET
The debate on Laine and Puljujarvi rages on. I have watched much of the World's and the World Junior tourneys and IMHO this is not a closed case debate for Laine as best choice for 2nd.

Laine is obviously a natural goal scorer and you can't teach that. He also has decent passing skill and at 6'4" is still filling out his frame. However watching the games he seems rather lazy player , especially in the defensive zone. He never seems to be digging for or racing to a loose puck but rather hangs along the boards waiting for other players to do the dirty work and then get the puck to him. He doesn't play big minutes nor is he put on the ice in the final minutes of close games.

Puljujarvi is the complete package in every other way with exceptional Gretzky like vision that can play all three forward posistions. Much better defensively than Laine and more heart. He is a natural leader but ultimately lacks Laine's shot and scoring ability. He can play big minutes and is an asset defensively . It comes down to Puljujarvi being a better player in every way except the lethal shot.

As for the Jets, its simply a matter of which hole they want to fill. Do they need an Ovechkin /Stamkos like shot on the power play which was one of the worst PP's in the league OR do they want a much more complete all-around player like a Johnathan Toews ? Right now the JEts are a great 5 vs 5 Team and they have lost many one goal games last year mostly because their PP was dreadful ( and because of Stuart...but thats another topic) . There is an obvious hole to fill on that PP that might turn losses into wins. That is why I think Chevy picks Laine. However if I were a team which needed to improve 5 vs 5 then the better pick by far is Puljujarvi.
JetsAvs
Location: Kelowna, BC
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 18 @ 11:59 AM ET
http://www.isshockey.com/
- Hunkulese


Like I said, in every ranking that I had seen. I stand corrected

Grinder6
Location: MB
Joined: 09.15.2013

May 18 @ 1:43 PM ET
Matthews>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Laine>Puljujarvi
- cesareborgia


ceasarborgia is one scared Leafs fan lol
Grinder6
Location: MB
Joined: 09.15.2013

May 18 @ 1:47 PM ET
Puljajarvi may be the more complete player but Jets need an assassin so Laine is the man.
cesareborgia
Joined: 02.23.2015

May 18 @ 7:09 PM ET
ceasarborgia is one scared Leafs fan lol
- Grinder6


Why would I be scared? There's never been a clearer #1 overall pick, so much more dominant than every other player in the draft.


I'd be scared if we were 2nd, as there's a very good chance Puljujarvi turns out better than Laine
Grinder6
Location: MB
Joined: 09.15.2013

May 18 @ 9:22 PM ET
Why would I be scared? There's never been a clearer #1 overall pick, so much more dominant than every other player in the draft.


I'd be scared if we were 2nd, as there's a very good chance Puljujarvi turns out better than Laine

- cesareborgia


never in the history of the NHL draft! Mathews is Gretzky, Laine is Mike Brown.

You know what has happened a lot of the time though? Someone in the top 3 ends up being the real keeper.
cesareborgia
Joined: 02.23.2015

May 19 @ 2:11 AM ET
never in the history of the NHL draft! Mathews is Gretzky, Laine is Mike Brown.

You know what has happened a lot of the time though? Someone in the top 3 ends up being the real keeper.

- Grinder6


I'm betting on Matthews and maybe Puljjarvi to be the superstars.

Laine is a Kessel. No heart.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

May 19 @ 10:19 AM ET
The Jets current roster is better suited to having Laine on the LW. Except for Ehlers, all of our playmakers are right handed shots - Schiefele, Little, Wheeler, Buff.

Best solution - get them both !
Offer Columbus, our other 1st round pick, and next year's 1st round pick plus their choices of Burmistrov, Dano, Peluso, Postma,

Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 19 @ 10:42 AM ET
The Jets current roster is better suited to having Laine on the LW. Except for Ehlers, all of our playmakers are right handed shots - Schiefele, Little, Wheeler, Buff.

Best solution - get them both !
Offer Columbus, our other 1st round pick, and next year's 1st round pick plus their choices of Burmistrov, Dano, Peluso, Postma,

- bennythehat


would you take that deal if Columbus offered it to us? Doubt it. Columbus needs a centreman, and I have no doubt the asking price would be very high!! probably Little, Connor and our 22nd overall pick. I'll pass
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

May 19 @ 10:51 AM ET
I wouldn't want to part with Little as we are weak up the middle without him.
Connor would be tradeable in this scenario....
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

May 19 @ 12:09 PM ET
There is little doubt Chevy is willing to trade both his 22nd pick and 36th pick. He has publicly said as much. He will field all offers in order to move up . That may be anything from 3rd pick all the way to 12th. I would be willing to bet that Burmistrov, Dano, De Leo, Postma, Lemieux, and Lipon are all on the table here...pick any one of them depending on how high a pick. I'm sure he would like one of those top 3-5 defensman preferably a left shot. Kyle Connor is absolutely not being traded.

Keep in mind that Chevy also covets Drouin and he is no lock to stay in Tampa. Therefore a similar package to Tampa for Drouin is likely on the table as well.

The likely 2017 entry draft looms large in this equation as well. He needs to unload some players and improve on quality.

Look for something like 22nd and 36th pick plus Dano for Drouin OR for a top 6 pick. Add another player for 3rd pick.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 19 @ 12:55 PM ET
There is little doubt Chevy is willing to trade both his 22nd pick and 36th pick. He has publicly said as much. He will field all offers in order to move up . That may be anything from 3rd pick all the way to 12th. I would be willing to bet that Burmistrov, Dano, De Leo, Postma, Lemieux, and Lipon are all on the table here...pick any one of them depending on how high a pick. I'm sure he would like one of those top 3-5 defensman preferably a left shot. Kyle Connor is absolutely not being traded.

Keep in mind that Chevy also covets Drouin and he is no lock to stay in Tampa. Therefore a similar package to Tampa for Drouin is likely on the table as well.

The likely 2017 entry draft looms large in this equation as well. He needs to unload some players and improve on quality.

Look for something like 22nd and 36th pick plus Dano for Drouin OR for a top 6 pick. Add another player for 3rd pick.

- jetsnation


my thoughts on your post;

I can not see Lemieux being offered in any trade, reports had him as a key piece in the Kane/Bogo deal and we dont have any guys like him in our system, Lipon probably plays the closest style but not the same level.

if their is only one expansion team we can only lose one player, not to huge a deal if its one of young forwards like Dano, Armia, Burmi

No way that deal gets you Drouin, none!! Tampa probably already turned down multiple offers exactly like that. If the Jets were interested Tampa would demand one of Connor, Ehlers, Trouba as part of the package

Burmi, Lipon, De Leo, Postma have very little to no trade value.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

May 19 @ 1:11 PM ET
What do we need Drouin for ?
He is a LW. We have enough of them (Ehlers, Perreault, Connor, Laine ?, Lemieux)
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 19 @ 7:17 PM ET
There is little doubt Chevy is willing to trade both his 22nd pick and 36th pick. He has publicly said as much. He will field all offers in order to move up . That may be anything from 3rd pick all the way to 12th. I would be willing to bet that Burmistrov, Dano, De Leo, Postma, Lemieux, and Lipon are all on the table here...pick any one of them depending on how high a pick. I'm sure he would like one of those top 3-5 defensman preferably a left shot. Kyle Connor is absolutely not being traded.

Keep in mind that Chevy also covets Drouin and he is no lock to stay in Tampa. Therefore a similar package to Tampa for Drouin is likely on the table as well.

The likely 2017 entry draft looms large in this equation as well. He needs to unload some players and improve on quality.

Look for something like 22nd and 36th pick plus Dano for Drouin OR for a top 6 pick. Add another player for 3rd pick.

- jetsnation


I'd like to see Chevy pull a Burke (circa 1999) type move and land the 3rd overall pick then draft both Finns.
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

May 19 @ 7:48 PM ET
I'd like to see Chevy pull a Burke (circa 1999) type move and land the 3rd overall pick then draft both Finns.
- DarthKane

I feel like the jets are actually in a position where they could do that
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

May 20 @ 11:15 PM ET
Nothing makes a lot of sense in this analysis. I think Laine is the best player in the draft. Imagine if he drops to 3rd. Everything about this kid screams Ovechkin. I understand the Leafs screwing up on him, they are the Leafs. I just don't believe that the Jets would miss.
- spatso



Grinder6
Location: MB
Joined: 09.15.2013

May 25 @ 10:52 PM ET
I'm betting on Matthews and maybe Puljjarvi to be the superstars.

Laine is a Kessel. No heart.

- cesareborgia


Kessel has a good chance to win a Cup now that he's on a good team.

Laine has plenty of "heart" but "heart" is a bullshat narrative anyway. Scoring goals wins games and Kessel and Laine score goals.
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