Jeropotato
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batjester
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Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI Joined: 03.09.2013
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Hey, your teams looking good this spring. You stoked or what? - Jeropotato
Welcome back jabroni king. :p
I'm happy they made it this far. Tampa is going to be a tough out, but even if they don't make the finals I'm content (didn't even think they'd make the playoffs beginning of the year). |
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batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI Joined: 03.09.2013
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I could care less if they're "vegan" it's the pretentious and preachy attitudes they have. If they would just eat a (frank)ing steak they wouldn't be so angry. - LittleRickyV2
If bacon were a vegetable I'd eat salads every day. |
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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder Edmonton Oilers |
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If Reveens bumhole was a vegetable I'd toss salads every day. - batjester
Whoa! I knew you guys were close, but.. |
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batjester
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Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI Joined: 03.09.2013
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Whoa! I knew you guys were close, but.. - Jeropotato
What can I say. I can't say no to the hair. |
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Not get rid of it, but trade and exchange for it. Washington has poopty depth in prospect centermen (Keep in mind the difference between prospect and NHL depth; Washington has great NHL depth at center right now, but their prospect pool at center is a poopbasket). They have good depth at center right now, but in 2-4 years down the road, they'll only have an aging Backstrom, Kuznetsov and veteran players. Even if they hang onto Johansson, their depth at centre will still be above par, maybe good at best. By then, they will be worrying about Backstrom's contract and signing Kuznetsov to a big contract.
As for Yakupov, Washington can definitely take a gamble on a piece like him. They have an aging Beagle , an aging Williams, T.J. Oshie, and perhaps a Joel Ward in Tom Wilson. Yakupov's projection at this point is hard to configure and pinpoint. He can turn into a blue chip elite winger or he might be the next Daigle or maybe he might be just a 3rd liner for the rest of his career.
It all depends on how much Washington wants to gamble. They get some prospects that shore up their depth and those prospects are either gonna be hit, miss, or 50/50. A Yakimov, 2nd or 3rd (Maybe a 4th included?), and Yak might get things started.
Edit: This is all contingent on if we trade RNH. Keep that in mind. - EdmHockeyMan
They don't give a (frank) about their prospect depth and why would they? Their window to win is now. What are they gonna tell Ovechkin? Sorry but we need to worry about our prospects instead of attempting to win the cup this year. Your trade ideas just aren't realistic at all. |
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Just spit balling for poops and giggles.....
Trade Ryan Nugent Hopkins to the Hurricanes for Justin Faulk and a 2016 3rd
Trade the Oilers 2016 1st round ,*conditional 2018 2nd, Brandon Davidson and Anton Slepychev to the St.Louis Blues for Kevin Shattenkirk and Patrick Berglund.
(* Condition being that if KS doesn't an extension prior to July 1st the pick becomes a 4th rounder).
Trade Nail Yakupov (+?)to the New York Rangers for RFA Chris Kreider
Trade Benoit Pouliot to the Anaheim Ducks for a 2016 2nd round pick
Resign Pakarainen , Kassian and Gryba
Sign UFA Jonas Enroth to a 2 yrs, 3.8 million dollar contract.
Sign UFA Loui Erikson to a 5 year, 25 Million Dollar contract.
Erikson McDavid Eberle
Hall Draisaitl Kreider
Maroon Berglund Kassian
Hendricks Letestu Pakarainen
Shattenkirk Klerfbom
Faulk Sekeras
Gryba Nurse/Reinhart
Talbot
Enroth
The way I see it is the defence is obviously much improved , the forwards are tougher and a bit harder to play against, and we added some offence.
No idea if this works cap wise because I didn't do any math. - Jeropotato
Interesting ideas. The Shattenkirk trade would be a pretty steep gamble. Faulk going anywhere may just be sandwich talk. Yak for Kreider seems pretty realistic.
Enroth might be able to keep the Oil in some important "should win" games that the Oilers tend to blow. Those points make a difference.
Then again: what is a "should win" game for the Oilers.. After this long I don't know anymore.
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EdmHockeyMan
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Location: Lumbridge, AB Joined: 06.24.2013
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They don't give a (frank) about their prospect depth and why would they? Their window to win is now. What are they gonna tell Ovechkin? Sorry but we need to worry about our prospects instead of attempting to win the cup this year. Your trade ideas just aren't realistic at all. - Ihatebrianburke
Most of them try to be if you read in between the lines. There is more to a trade than what just meets the eye. That is the difference between good management and bad management.
They are still a highly competitive team even with just Kuznetsov and backstrom as their top 2 for now. They have a fantastic top 6 group led by Ovi, a great defense led by Carson, stellar goaltending led by Holtby, and a good veteran presence. There is a reason as to why they were #1, I believe, in the standings at the end of the year.
A good GM recognizes and knows that prospect depth is crucial for a team to stay competitive, so don't tell me that they don't give a raccoon's ass about prospect depth. Go look at Detroit and Chicago. They are the pillars that fundament how valuable prospect depth and scouting is. |
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Well, yeah, obviously I'm in agreement with you. - Jeropotato
Ah, okay. The wording just seemed a bit off how I read it. My bad. |
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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 01.03.2013
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Ah, okay. The wording just seemed a bit off how I read it. My bad. - MaximumBone
It's all good. I'm getting a kick out of these threads again, especially the Oulers fans that think we can turn this around by moving The 4th and (frank) all else. I just don't see improvements without moving a major piece.
Chances of players moving?
Yak 100%
Hall 25%
Eberle 50%
Nuge 60%
4th overall 75% |
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It's all good. I'm getting a kick out of these threads again, especially the Oulers fans that think we can turn this around by moving The 4th and (frank) all else. I just don't see improvements without moving a major piece.
Chances of players moving?
Yak 100%
Hall 25%
Eberle 50%
Nuge 60%
4th overall 75% - Jeropotato
I bet we could fleece Sakic into taking 4th OA and Fayne for Barrie and then re-visit the Poo and Yak for Vatanen trade that was rumoured to being on the table before Poo got hurt. |
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Most of them try to be if you read in between the lines. There is more to a trade than what just meets the eye. That is the difference between good management and bad management.
They are still a highly competitive team even with just Kuznetsov and backstrom as their top 2 for now. They have a fantastic top 6 group led by Ovi, a great defense led by Carson, stellar goaltending led by Holtby, and a good veteran presence. There is a reason as to why they were #1, I believe, in the standings at the end of the year.
A good GM recognizes and knows that prospect depth is crucial for a team to stay competitive, so don't tell me that they don't give a raccoon's ass about prospect depth. Go look at Detroit and Chicago. They are the pillars that fundament how valuable prospect depth and scouting is. - EdmHockeyMan
And because the trades you propose got accepted on your playstation, you think they're good ones? You don't trade away your NHL talent for prospects, unless you can't afford them. Washington is in no cap trouble at all, so they don't need to. They're set at every position pretty well. It's highly doubtful that they make any major roster shakeups after being the best team in the league for most of the year. |
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I bet we could fleece Sakic into taking 4th OA and Fayne for Barrie and then re-visit the Poo and Yak for Vatanen trade that was rumoured to being on the table before Poo got hurt. - LittleRickyV2
I really don't think Barrie is worth the 4th overall. Sure he's an offensive dynamo and a top 4, but he's small, not great defensively, and not a top pairing guy. |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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I bet we could fleece Sakic into taking 4th OA and Fayne for Barrie and then re-visit the Poo and Yak for Vatanen trade that was rumoured to being on the table before Poo got hurt. - LittleRickyV2
Interested in acquiring any defenders of quality, but if we got Barrie, I'd certainly move off vatanen and look towards a minute eating defensive guy
Also, I do think we may be able to entice the avs starting with the 4th overall, but I doubt they're much interested in also taking a substantial salary dump in fayne. Why let a really good defender walk cause you're unwilling to pay him 6, but take a sh1tty depth guy at almost 4 for 2 years ? Might get a small prospect/bit player dump, but I think gaining that much space is part of the value |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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I really don't think Barrie is worth the 4th overall. Sure he's an offensive dynamo and a top 4, but he's small, not great defensively, and not a top pairing guy. - Ihatebrianburke
I do
49 points in less than 82 games
Brilliant skater, pp qb, can move the puck
Admittedly, I'd certainly hope we also have a line on a defensive guy, but Barrie Checks off so many boxes. And he's young. At worst a great top 4 offensive guy with the potential for more
His offensive acumen alone puts him in select company
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I do
49 points in less than 82 games
Brilliant skater, pp qb, can move the puck
Admittedly, I'd certainly hope we also have a line on a defensive guy, but Barrie Checks off so many boxes. And he's young. At worst a great top 4 offensive guy with the potential for more
His offensive acumen alone puts him in select company - HB77
I'd still like to throw an offer sheet at Seth Jones as well. 7 years x 7-8 mill. It would cost 2- 1sts, a 2nd, and a 3rd. Columbus hasn't left themselves in the greatest cap position with all their overpriced, underperforming forwards. I don't care what it takes or who we piss off, we just need a couple of solid Dmen this offseason. |
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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whats up you chubby chasers and Lady Boy Lovers |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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Just checking in...
Is RNH dead yet? Still hope for him?
If you guys don't want him, there are about 29 other teams who could find a place for him.
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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whats up you chubby chasers and Lady Boy Lovers - DDM-Coga
I cleared my cache!
How?
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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I do
49 points in less than 82 games
Brilliant skater, pp qb, can move the puck
Admittedly, I'd certainly hope we also have a line on a defensive guy, but Barrie Checks off so many boxes. And he's young. At worst a great top 4 offensive guy with the potential for more
His offensive acumen alone puts him in select company - HB77
but with 4th overall, you could trade down a couple spots, get a return for that, and then take one of Chycrun, Juolevi or that Russian guy whose name I can't spell.
I think those guys have at least the upside of Barrie and you get them on ELC's longer.
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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I cleared my cache!
How?
- Aetherial
Capt EO is always watching |
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Just checking in...
Is RNH dead yet? Still hope for him?
If you guys don't want him, there are about 29 other teams who could find a place for him. - Aetherial
It will be a mistake to trade him away for anything less than a stud defenseman. Just because we have McDavid and Draisaitl, doesn't make the guy a 3rd line center like some are saying. He'll still be playing big minutes in all situations against the other teams best line. I would much rather try to trade Eberle and the 4th overall before the Nuge. |
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Capt EO is always watching - DDM-Coga
You scurred? |
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EdmHockeyMan
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Location: Lumbridge, AB Joined: 06.24.2013
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And because the trades you propose got accepted on your playstation, you think they're good ones? You don't trade away your NHL talent for prospects, unless you can't afford them. Washington is in no cap trouble at all, so they don't need to. They're set at every position pretty well. It's highly doubtful that they make any major roster shakeups after being the best team in the league for most of the year. - Ihatebrianburke
I agree with that, but like you just said, if they are set a every position pretty well, it all depends on how willing they are to take a gamble on a couple few players, especially prospects. Even if they give up just Johansson, they still have a stellar top6, a good veteran presence, a great defence, and amazing goaltending, and now they have some prospects in the bank that bolster their depth (Yakimov, Yak, and possibly a third).
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EdmHockeyMan
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Location: Lumbridge, AB Joined: 06.24.2013
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It will be a mistake to trade him away for anything less than a stud defenseman. Just because we have McDavid and Draisaitl, doesn't make the guy a 3rd line center like some are saying. He'll still be playing big minutes in all situations against the other teams best line. I would much rather try to trade Eberle and the 4th overall before the Nuge. - Ihatebrianburke
If RNH is traded, it will either be to Winnipeg, Carolina or Detroit (Darkhorse here). |
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