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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

May 17 @ 8:12 AM ET
Leon's gonna be a center going forward

It's great that he can play wing, and I think he will from time to time, but the organization is looking at him as the big 2c we want going forward. His size and ability to outmuscle opponents down low makes it almost silly to not play him in his natural role.

And I'd bet the organization puts more pure value in him than rnh going forward. And probably rightly so. The blog mentioned proven track record a few times, but the thing is rnh's track record has never put up jaw dropping numbers. Or even anything impressive enough to consider him a great 2c just yet.

I think it's probably prudent that we deal eberle or the 4th before nuge. But if we've dealt yakupov, I keep ebs and look to move Rnh

The best thing about keeping nuge is the depth factor he gives us. But then we dont wanna use it and just try and stack a line while playing him against all the toughest competition? Weird

- HB77


He's worth more than Ebs, and we NEED a massive return
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

May 17 @ 8:22 AM ET
Issue is, what teams are willing to trade #1 Dmen at the moment, even the non-elite ones? Can't think of many that are rumored to be available besides Barrie. Maybe Subban if Montreal is stupid.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

May 17 @ 8:35 AM ET
He's worth more than Ebs, and we NEED a massive return
- Jeropotato


Holy (frank) you're alive! Welcome back.

For the sake of argument, why is Nuge worth more than Eberle? Is it because he is a center or his two way play? It certainly can't be because of his offensive production.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

May 17 @ 8:36 AM ET
Playoffs next season is a bit over the top. But not being eliminated by new years would be nice.

On another note, I mentioned the idea of moving Leon back to the wing about a month ago. If the Oilers lose both Eberle and Yakupov in an effort to improve defence it's not impossible to see Leon as the #1 RW and adding someone like Brouwer to take the 2nd or 3rd RW. Adds a lot of size and grit over Eberle.

Something like:

Hall-RNH-Drai
Pou-CMD-Brouwer

Wouldn't be a bad top 6 combo of skill, speed, size, and grit. As long as they do some work to upgrade the bottom 6 and defense it should be a team that can tease us with flirting with a playoff position. Would also give them a 2nd face off option when RNH gets kicked out of the dot. Not a horrible option.

- wreckage

Why would Brouwer sign in Edmonton?
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

May 17 @ 8:39 AM ET
Why would Brouwer sign in Edmonton?
- K-man25


Because Oiler management will probably be willing to pay him more than he's worth for longer than he's worth having.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 17 @ 9:03 AM ET
Holy (frank) you're alive! Welcome back.

For the sake of argument, why is Nuge worth more than Eberle? Is it because he is a center or his two way play? It certainly can't be because of his offensive production.

- Wildschwein

I think perception. and the possibility of reaching another level or two

And being a center (which has some truth to it, but as I've mentioned before, the whole center value vs worthless winger value thing hae gotten ridiculous.

But yeah, there's nothing he's really done thus far that make him better or more valuable in a tangible sense than eberle. It's crazy how quickly we forget seasons of 76, 65, 63 and on pace for another 63 during lockout. And he's more durable

Not saying we certainly shouldn't trade him, just that it's pretty obvious perception does not always equal reality
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 17 @ 9:06 AM ET
Why would Brouwer sign in Edmonton?
- K-man25

For money


Longshot or not, unless you can prove 100% that he wont, move along son
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

May 17 @ 9:15 AM ET
For money


Longshot or not, unless you can prove 100% that he wont, move along son

- HB77

I think he's definitely a guy we should take a run at.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 17 @ 9:16 AM ET
Matt Henderson: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins: Not Dead Yet
- Matt_Henderson

RipNH
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

May 17 @ 9:22 AM ET
RipNH
- eichiefs9

Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

May 17 @ 9:25 AM ET

- Ihatebrianburke


eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 17 @ 9:28 AM ET

- Ihatebrianburke

Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

May 17 @ 9:35 AM ET
I think perception. and the possibility of reaching another level or two

And being a center (which has some truth to it, but as I've mentioned before, the whole center value vs worthless winger value thing hae gotten ridiculous.

But yeah, there's nothing he's really done thus far that make him better or more valuable in a tangible sense than eberle. It's crazy how quickly we forget seasons of 76, 65, 63 and on pace for another 63 during lockout. And he's more durable

Not saying we certainly shouldn't trade him, just that it's pretty obvious perception does not always equal reality

- HB77


Yarp.

Can't remember the last time I was this excited about a draft, without actually giving a poop if the Oilers draft anybody. Mostly I just want to see where Chia is going to make his mark, for better or worse.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 17 @ 10:05 AM ET
Yarp.

Can't remember the last time I was this excited about a draft, without actually giving a poop if the Oilers draft anybody. Mostly I just want to see where Chia is going to make his mark, for better or worse.

- Wildschwein

For sure

Not unusually stoked about any one player that we have available to us. Wouldn't hate to see chycrun if he can't move the pick I guess. But moreso, I wanna see what chiarelli is able to accomplish
Razzdazzle1
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.17.2015

May 17 @ 10:08 AM ET
Yarp.

Can't remember the last time I was this excited about a draft, without actually giving a poop if the Oilers draft anybody. Mostly I just want to see where Chia is going to make his mark, for better or worse.

- Wildschwein



If it's not #1 you don't even want it anymore. That's sad.



HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 17 @ 10:09 AM ET
If it's not #1 you don't even want it anymore. That's sad.
- Razzdazzle1

Your weak azz trolling skillz is what's sad
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

May 17 @ 10:13 AM ET
Sploogent Mopkins...Clap Clap Clap

Sploogent Mopkins...Clap Clap Clap
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 17 @ 10:15 AM ET
Sloogent Mopkins...Clap Clap Clap

Sloogent Mopkins...Clap Clap Clap

- DDM-Coga

You forgot a "P"
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

May 17 @ 10:18 AM ET
You forgot a "P"
- eichiefs9


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Number 3
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 17 @ 10:21 AM ET
http://www.urbandictionar...om/define.php?term=slooge
Number 3

- DDM-Coga



Stoolgent Plopkins
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

May 17 @ 10:26 AM ET


Stoolgent Plopkins

- eichiefs9


Poogent Slopkins
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 17 @ 10:34 AM ET
Poogent Slopkins
- DDM-Coga

I can't believe I didn't say Stoolgent Droppings
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

May 17 @ 10:36 AM ET
Poogent Slopkins
- DDM-Coga



Jero Blumpkins?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

May 17 @ 10:43 AM ET
I can't believe I didn't say Stoolgent Droppings
- eichiefs9


delete your account
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

May 17 @ 10:51 AM ET
delete your account
- DDM-Coga


Too harsh a penalty.
I suggest that the removal of his left nut would be more humane and fitting considering his past posting history.
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