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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 18 @ 2:56 PM ET
I think for sure Kekalainen wants the young Finn. And I wouldn't trade Nuge for that pick. When I think Nuge in his prime I think Patrice Bergeron or Pavel Datsyuk, an elite 2 way center.
- Ihatebrianburke


Wow, that is pretty high expectations. You just listed maybe the 2 best 2-way centers in this generation of players.
NEONDOUBLEDION
Anaheim Ducks
Location: EDMONTON, AB
Joined: 02.04.2015

May 18 @ 3:07 PM ET
Wow, that is pretty high expectations. You just listed maybe the 2 best 2-way centers in this generation of players.
- Aetherial



So IHATEBRIANBURKE is an alt for James Tanner. Good to know.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

May 18 @ 3:23 PM ET
How do you figure he is a number 1? He went from being a number 5 in Nashville to being a top 2 for half a season in CBJ. And you are already going to back the Brinks truck up eh.
- NEONDOUBLEDION

Him and Murray are the top pairing in Columbus. Just because he was buried on the depth chart in Nashville doesn't mean he's not a good player. RNH is the 3rd center on our depth chart going forward. Does that mean he's only a 3rd line center?
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

May 18 @ 3:25 PM ET
Wow, that is pretty high expectations. You just listed maybe the 2 best 2-way centers in this generation of players.
- Aetherial

1st overall picks usually turn into pretty good players. They're not all Yakupov's.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 18 @ 3:26 PM ET
1st overall picks usually turn into pretty good players. They're not all Yakupov's.
- Ihatebrianburke


Agreed... but you picked some impressive targets and I think both those guys, as good as they were, were actually underrated.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

May 18 @ 3:27 PM ET
So IHATEBRIANBURKE is an alt for James Tanner. Good to know.
- NEONDOUBLEDION

And you must me a JB alt, with all the gay porn you watch.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

May 18 @ 3:34 PM ET
Agreed... but you picked some impressive targets and I think both those guys, as good as they were, were actually underrated.
- Aetherial

He's already a good 2way center and is not in his prime yet. I know those 2 are elite 2way guys and I think Nuge will be too.
NEONDOUBLEDION
Anaheim Ducks
Location: EDMONTON, AB
Joined: 02.04.2015

May 18 @ 3:56 PM ET
Him and Murray are the top pairing in Columbus. Just because he was buried on the depth chart in Nashville doesn't mean he's not a good player. RNH is the 3rd center on our depth chart going forward. Does that mean he's only a 3rd line center?
- Ihatebrianburke



According to Kelly Hrudey he is a third liner and that guy is never wrong
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

May 18 @ 4:00 PM ET
According to Kelly Hrudey he is a third liner and that guy is never wrong
- NEONDOUBLEDION

Funny how all the ex goalies on tv are the worst analysts. Healy, Hrudey, Weekes, Hirsch. All terrible goalies. All horrible analysts.
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

May 18 @ 4:08 PM ET
Why those 3?
- Wildschwein


Carolina needs a replacement for Eric Staal and it would help with Lindholm's development. Jordan Staal is great, but imo, he seems to be an excellent 2nd line center rather than a good 1st line center. The only player Edmonton would want in return though is Faulk though.

Detroit needs replacements for Datsyuk (He said he is retiring too, but we'll see what actually happens) and Zetterberg (Whose natural position is at wing, but has to play center due to the lack of depth Detroit has at that position) very soon and badly. Larkin is a good start at redevelopment of the center position for the Wings, but not enough in the long run. The only problem is that Detroit is a little thin on defense (Many good veterans who will likely retire in a few years, but barely any very good prospects at the moment), especially after Lindstrom left (That left a huge gap to fill). This is what makes the Wings a dark horse candidate. Only player(s) I see Edmnoton wanting in return are Alexei Marchenko and Dekeyser, both of which still need development (Marchenko, imo, has been highly underrated and he could be yet another steal by the Red Wings).

As for Winnipeg, Dano needs much more development, Little is their best Center atm but he only has about 2 more years into his prime until he will most likely begin to decline and then there is Scheifele in second place (For now), who has yet to be signed. Other than that, they don't have any other notable mentions. The player returning to us would definitely have be Trouba without question, or else the entire deal would be a waste of time, however, I do wonder if Chia will try to acquire Dano to bolster our prospect depth at center (He could be that 3rd line center that can play 2nd line minutes due to injury that we would need in the long run). Overall, it would bolster Edmonton's depth at defense and Winnipeg gets a boost in NHL center depth as well. One thing to note here is that Eberle could be the player that goes if Winnipeg looks at dealing with Edmonton in an entirely different perspective.
NEONDOUBLEDION
Anaheim Ducks
Location: EDMONTON, AB
Joined: 02.04.2015

May 18 @ 5:13 PM ET
Carolina needs a replacement for Eric Staal and it would help with Lindholm's development. Jordan Staal is great, but imo, he seems to be an excellent 2nd line center rather than a good 1st line center. The only player Edmonton would want in return though is Faulk though.

Detroit needs replacements for Datsyuk (He said he is retiring too, but we'll see what actually happens) and Zetterberg (Whose natural position is at wing, but has to play center due to the lack of depth Detroit has at that position) very soon and badly. Larkin is a good start at redevelopment of the center position for the Wings, but not enough in the long run. The only problem is that Detroit is a little thin on defense (Many good veterans who will likely retire in a few years, but barely any very good prospects at the moment), especially after Lindstrom left (That left a huge gap to fill). This is what makes the Wings a dark horse candidate. Only player(s) I see Edmnoton wanting in return are Alexei Marchenko and Dekeyser, both of which still need development (Marchenko, imo, has been highly underrated and he could be yet another steal by the Red Wings).

As for Winnipeg, Dano needs much more development, Little is their best Center atm but he only has about 2 more years into his prime until he will most likely begin to decline and then there is Scheifele in second place (For now), who has yet to be signed. Other than that, they don't have any other notable mentions. The player returning to us would definitely have be Trouba without question, or else the entire deal would be a waste of time, however, I do wonder if Chia will try to acquire Dano to bolster our prospect depth at center (He could be that 3rd line center that can play 2nd line minutes due to injury that we would need in the long run). Overall, it would bolster Edmonton's depth at defense and Winnipeg gets a boost in NHL center depth as well. One thing to note here is that Eberle could be the player that goes if Winnipeg looks at dealing with Edmonton in an entirely different perspective.

- EdmHockeyMan



Dano is not a center. Can you please do your homework before you decide to write a useless paragraph.
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

May 18 @ 5:30 PM ET
Dano is not a center. Can you please do your homework before you decide to write a useless paragraph.
- NEONDOUBLEDION


He is listed as a center on the Winnipeg jets website...

http://jets.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8477448

He is also listed as a center (and right wing) on the elite prospects website as well...

http://www.eliteprospects...m/player.php?player=94946

So, do your homework before making yourself look bad. He can play centre AND right wing, which only make things BETTER if Eberle is traded too.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

May 18 @ 5:54 PM ET
He is listed as a center on the Winnipeg jets website...

http://jets.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8477448

He is also listed as a center (and right wing) on the elite prospects website as well...

http://www.eliteprospects...m/player.php?player=94946

So, do your homework before making yourself look bad. He can play centre AND right wing, which only make things BETTER if Eberle is traded too.

- EdmHockeyMan

Chiarelli has already stated he want's to get bigger multiple times. Dano doesn't fit into that at all.
LittleRickyV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 01.26.2016

May 18 @ 5:55 PM ET
What's going down you bunch of grape smugglers
LittleRickyV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 01.26.2016

May 18 @ 5:56 PM ET
Chiarelli has already stated he want's to get bigger multiple times. Dano doesn't fit into that at all.
- Ihatebrianburke


Does he like "truculence"
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

May 18 @ 6:31 PM ET
Does he like "truculence"
- LittleRickyV2

He'd better like defensemen that play the right side, cause that's what we need. Not to be wasting assets on more small forwards, when that's what we already have an abundance of.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

May 18 @ 6:42 PM ET
He is listed as a center on the Winnipeg jets website...

http://jets.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8477448

He is also listed as a center (and right wing) on the elite prospects website as well...

http://www.eliteprospects...m/player.php?player=94946

So, do your homework before making yourself look bad. He can play centre AND right wing, which only make things BETTER if Eberle is traded too.

- EdmHockeyMan


If you havent been watching the Jets lately, mark scheifele is a beast, he is their best C now, the guy has really started to pick it up now. I dont even consider him their 2nd best C anymore
NEONDOUBLEDION
Anaheim Ducks
Location: EDMONTON, AB
Joined: 02.04.2015

May 18 @ 6:53 PM ET
He is listed as a center on the Winnipeg jets website...

http://jets.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8477448

He is also listed as a center (and right wing) on the elite prospects website as well...

http://www.eliteprospects...m/player.php?player=94946

So, do your homework before making yourself look bad. He can play centre AND right wing, which only make things BETTER if Eberle is traded too.

- EdmHockeyMan



He plays wing. I watch games I don't just look at websites and beat off to terrible trade proposals. Chicago he was on the wing, with the Jets he played wing. The guy is a winger. Hell even with CBJ he was on the wing. I am sure you can find a website that say Bigg Buff is a winger as well but he has played more D in the last 3 years than the wing. You can find whatever you want on websites to fit your dipsh1t idea for a trade.
NEONDOUBLEDION
Anaheim Ducks
Location: EDMONTON, AB
Joined: 02.04.2015

May 18 @ 6:54 PM ET
If you havent been watching the Jets lately, mark scheifele is a beast, he is their best C now, the guy has really started to pick it up now. I dont even consider him their 2nd best C anymore
- DDM-Coga



I have had him since he has been a rookie in a hockey pool and that looks like it is finally going to pay off.
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

May 18 @ 7:21 PM ET
He plays wing. I watch games I don't just look at websites and beat off to terrible trade proposals. Chicago he was on the wing, with the Jets he played wing. The guy is a winger. Hell even with CBJ he was on the wing. I am sure you can find a website that say Bigg Buff is a winger as well but he has played more D in the last 3 years than the wing. You can find whatever you want on websites to fit your dipsh1t idea for a trade.
- NEONDOUBLEDION


My point is that his natural position is at Center. He can play wing due to depth. This was talked about before on the Winnipeg forums during the time he was traded. He was drafted with the concept of him playing center, but if he needs to play wing, he can definitely play wing.

I've seen some Winnipeg games this season and I gotta tell you, he is a very versatile and effective player that can, imo, play any forward position. The only downfall is that his frame doesn't suit the west, but I don't see that as an issue in the games I've seen him play in.

As for trade proposals, I have yet to mention anything about trade proposals in that post, only perspectives and ideas about players that would help the Oilers if RNH was the player on the trading block. Everything else I talked about in that post made actual, logical sense. The Dano talk is more about just an option that Chia could try to explore, so next time, instead of trying to be an bumhole, try to actually communicate like a civilized, normal person that can argue and debate with reason and logic.
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

May 18 @ 7:23 PM ET
Chiarelli has already stated he want's to get bigger multiple times. Dano doesn't fit into that at all.
- Ihatebrianburke


I agree with this, but Dano is more than just what his frame tells you. He is very versatile and a great piece for depth.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

May 18 @ 7:26 PM ET
I have had him since he has been a rookie in a hockey pool and that looks like it is finally going to pay off.
- NEONDOUBLEDION


the dudes a player, and finally using that big body to create space. In 2 years hes going to be considered a legit 1c in this league
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

May 18 @ 7:28 PM ET
If you havent been watching the Jets lately, mark scheifele is a beast, he is their best C now, the guy has really started to pick it up now. I dont even consider him their 2nd best C anymore
- DDM-Coga


I know Scheifele is a beast, I'm just saying that Little is also a beast as well. Winnipeg has a very good tango of Little and Scheifele, but Little's time will be done in maybe 4 years, perhaps even earlier. By then, Winnipeg will be looking for a candidate to fill that 2C spot and imo, RNH fits the bill perfectly for the type of game Winnipeg plays. Winnipeg adds in NHL center depth while Trouba, the only possible player that Edmonton would want back in any deal with WPG (Cap wise, shot wise, and term wise), bolsters our defense.
NEONDOUBLEDION
Anaheim Ducks
Location: EDMONTON, AB
Joined: 02.04.2015

May 18 @ 7:32 PM ET
I know Scheifele is a beast, I'm just saying that Little is also a beast as well. Winnipeg has a very good tango of Little and Scheifele, but Little's time will be done in maybe 4 years, perhaps even earlier. By then, Winnipeg will be looking for a candidate to fill that 2C spot and imo, RNH fits the bill perfectly for the type of game Winnipeg plays. Winnipeg adds in NHL center depth while Trouba, the only possible player that Edmonton would want back in any deal with WPG (Cap wise, shot wise, and term wise), bolsters our defense.
- EdmHockeyMan


So your trading Nuge who is in the three hole here to the Jets who will also put him in the three hole. Solid logic AlfieSalad
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

May 18 @ 7:33 PM ET
the dudes a player, and finally using that big body to create space. In 2 years hes going to be considered a legit 1c in this league
- DDM-Coga


In my books, he might be replacing Little for the 1C spot by next season.
Not only is he a great player, but his hockey IQ is what really marks him as a legit 1C.
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