Mine as well keep Nash if that is the case.

Fortunately, I really don't think that is the case with the club.
- MidnightMarauder

Yep the Rangers really want to try and get younger this offseason...going after high price UFAs, ins't gonna help that cause

The best thing to do with Nash is trade him for whatever you get and use that money for 2 players. i.e.- Brouwer, Shaw, Lucic, Weise. The players they add have to have some piss and vinager. Think about guys for the playoffs, NOT regular season. Players you need in the playoffs, players that are hard to play against. Players that score garbage goals. Players that have an intimidation factor. I've been saying this for years so hopefully they finally do that. I firmly believe this current group is a grade A regular season team, but the playoffs it lacks something. Its been mostly speed and skill for years now and it truly only takes you so far. Mcilrath needs to play in the top 6 and that would surely help in this regard. We always have issue with bigger forwards crashing around or deflecting pucks because we can't push anyone out of there.

Tom what is Kreiders ext looking like 4 years or more?
- TPC

between 4 and 4.5 million. Something similar to Bryan Bickell's extension. But Kreider is younger and has had better regular seasons.

between 4 and 4.5 million. Something similar to Bryan Bickell's extension. But Kreider is younger and has had better regular seasons.
- tomburton99

I can't wait til I see it done

I'll take the over on that one, Cotton.
- MidnightMarauder

Thats a bold strategy.....

Gas & squirts
- mdw7413

Picture an eight year old MM, eating corned beef hash and cabbage, having an awful stomach, destroying a friend's bathroom about an hour after consumption, on St. P's Day.

Not a pretty sight.

Don't think the Rangers are going the high price free agent route this summer. McGinn has been heavily mentioned in the Ranger media, and multiple times at that, as a prime target for Gorton and Co.
- MidnightMarauder

Well you would need to replace Nash's production/role if you trade him. Granted he had a bad season, but there's no reason to think he won't rebound to 30+ goals. Not to mention the attention he takes away from his teammates including attracting the oppositions top defensive pair away from the 2nd line.

The best thing to do with Nash is trade him for whatever you get and use that money for 2 players. i.e.- Brouwer, Shaw, Lucic, Weise. The players they add have to have some piss and vinager. Think about guys for the playoffs, NOT regular season. Players you need in the playoffs, players that are hard to play against. Players that score garbage goals. Players that have an intimidation factor. I've been saying this for years so hopefully they finally do that. I firmly believe this current group is a grade A regular season team, but the playoffs it lacks something. Its been mostly speed and skill for years now and it truly only takes you so far. Mcilrath needs to play in the top 6 and that would surely help in this regard. We always have issue with bigger forwards crashing around or deflecting pucks because we can't push anyone out of there.
- Slimtj100

I wouldn't mind Weise. Rangers should have never traded him. God damn Torts hated him.

The best thing to do with Nash is trade him for whatever you get and use that money for 2 players. i.e.- Brouwer, Shaw, Lucic, Weise. The players they add have to have some piss and vinager. Think about guys for the playoffs, NOT regular season. Players you need in the playoffs, players that are hard to play against. Players that score garbage goals. Players that have an intimidation factor. I've been saying this for years so hopefully they finally do that. I firmly believe this current group is a grade A regular season team, but the playoffs it lacks something. Its been mostly speed and skill for years now and it truly only takes you so far. Mcilrath needs to play in the top 6 and that would surely help in this regard. We always have issue with bigger forwards crashing around or deflecting pucks because we can't push anyone out of there.
- Slimtj100

F the piss and vinager players. I want speed. Speeeeed.

Thats a bold strategy.....
- mdw7413

You might want to get checked out
- TPC

I love eating a ton of sauerkraut and carpet bombing the hell out of public places.

F the piss and vinager players. I want speed. Speeeeed.
- rangerdanger94

agreed, we have to much finesse guys to play a grinding game, we need to play a speed/skill game

Picture an eight year old MM, eating corned beef hash and cabbage, having an awful stomach, destroying a friend's bathroom about an hour after consumption, on St. P's Day.

Not a pretty sight.
- MidnightMarauder

Yeah man, cabbage is bad news. No two ways about it.

F the piss and vinager players. I want speed. Speeeeed.
- rangerdanger94

The point is you saw us at the peak of that identity and it was utterly dominated by a bigger badder piss n vinager team in LA. And we don't have Towes, Kane or Crosby to make that work, that's what you need.

Well you would need to replace Nash's production/role if you trade him. Granted he had a bad season, but there's no reason to think he won't rebound to 30+ goals. Not to mention the attention he takes away from his teammates including attracting the oppositions top defensive pair away from the 2nd line.
- rangerdanger94

Nash has been a yo yo with his production since being in NY.

His first season, the lockout year, he was a force in the regular season. Second year, gets hurt, misses significant amount of time and doesn't break the 30 goal barrier. 2014-15, he was beastly and set a career season high in goals. This past season, scored his lowest goal total since his rookie season. So technically you are right, he would be on pace to have a bounce back season upcoming. But, combine his inconsistency, injury issues and the fact he is a complete no show come playoff time, it's hard to keep validating his being the second highest paid player on a team that is desparate for offensive game breaker.

Mine as well trade him, get some needed assets, acquire a lesser player but for less money and instill a scoring by committee approach instead of trying to rely on a player, that quite frankly, isn't all that reliable.

I wouldn't mind Weise. Rangers should have never traded him. God damn Torts hated him.
- tomburton99

Didn't he hate everyone ? Haha

The point is you saw us at the peak of that identity and it was utterly dominated by a bigger badder piss n vinager team in LA. And we don't have Towes, Kane or Crosby to make that work, that's what you need.
- Slimtj100

We were not utterly dominated by LA

LA can't even make the playoffs or do damage if they do anymore with how fast the NHL is getting

Nash has been a yo yo with his production since being in NY.

His first season, the lockout year, he was a force in the regular season. Second year, gets hurt, misses significant amount of time and doesn't break the 30 goal barrier. 2014-15, he was beastly and set a career season high in goals. This past season, scored his lowest goal total since his rookie season. So technically you are right, he would be on pace to have a bounce back season upcoming. But, combine his inconsistency, injury issues and the fact he is a complete no show come playoff time, it's hard to keep validating his being the second highest paid player on a team that is desparate for offensive game breaker.

Mine as well trade him, get some needed assets, acquire a lesser player but for less money and instill a scoring by committee approach instead of trying to rely on a player, that quite frankly, isn't all that reliable.
- MidnightMarauder

Well when you put it like that...

The point is you saw us at the peak of that identity and it was utterly dominated by a bigger badder piss n vinager team in LA. And we don't have Towes, Kane or Crosby to make that work, that's what you need.
- Slimtj100

Most teams that are consistent playoff performers have a nice blend of skill and team toughness. In this day and age, team toughness is not defined by how many pure pugilists you have on your fourth line but rather how many players, up and down the lineup, don't back down form physical play.

We were not utterly dominated by LA

LA can't even make the playoffs anymore with how fast the NHL is getting
- rangerdanger94

I hate when I agree with you.

We were not utterly dominated by LA

LA can't even make the playoffs or do damage if they do anymore with how fast the NHL is getting
- rangerdanger94

Hank gave us a chance there is nothing else that did. just like the pens series a few years ago

Most teams that are consistent playoff performers have a nice blend of skill and team toughness. In this day and age, team toughness is not defined by how many pure pugilists you have on your fourth line but rather how many players, up and down the lineup, don't back down form physical play.
- MidnightMarauder

That's the thing, we have nothing to intimidate. No one sees this EVER
It's not fighting either grr

Hank gave us a chance there is nothing else that did. just like the pens series a few years ago
- Slimtj100

Pretty sure we had multiple 2 goal leads that Hank choked us out of

I love eating a ton of sauerkraut and carpet bombing the hell out of public places.
- mdw7413

(frank) that. sauerkraut is terrible and ruins everything it touches.

Russia's second goal vs the f'n Swedes - holy poop
Buch > Panarin