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MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 17 @ 1:20 PM ET
I wouldn't mind getting a shoot 1st talented winger. Been saying that all year. Other than that, just fill out the bottom 2 lines a bit. Whether its with the Rangers farm team or a cheap UFA doesn't really matter much.

I would take a chance on Yak if the price was extremely cheap. Also would love to find a way to pry Nichushkin away from Dallas.

- mdw7413



Would love Yakupov. He wouldn't cost a lot to acquire but he has so much talent that a change in scenery and hockey culture would do him a world of good.

Edmonton is a pathetic organization, over the last ten years, it's hard to slander any young talent, yet to flourish, in that environment. Sometimes a little coaxing is needed before a player fulfills his potential. Yakupov may never do that, but for a likely low return, I am willing to see the Rangers take a shot at him.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 17 @ 1:22 PM ET
I think Skjei and a pick could land Nichushkin
- rangerdanger94



Rangers are not in a good position to trade away young incumbent NHL defensemen.

Rangers actually have more depth in their organization, at the forward position, than they do on the blueline.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

May 17 @ 1:22 PM ET
Didn't need to read the blog nor the comments before mine.

Trade Rick Nash.

- MidnightMarauder

Step 1: Trade Rick Nash and retain $2M dollars
Step 2: Sign Kyle "Played With Tavares Entire Career" Okposo for 7 years at $7M per year
Step 3: wait 41 games
Step 4: Begin complaining that we traded Rick Nash, his 2 year contract and retained $2M in salary too so that we can sign Kyle "career high 27 goals" Okposo for 7 years at $7M per year

really, we end up having less cap space, money locked up longer term, and all for a player who has never scored more than 27 goals playing on Tavares' wing. How does that make us better?
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

May 17 @ 1:23 PM ET
Would love Yakupov. He wouldn't cost a lot to acquire but he has so much talent that a change in scenery and hockey culture would do him a world of good.

Edmonton is a pathetic organization, over the last ten years, it's hard to slander any young talent, yet to flourish, in that environment. Sometimes a little coaxing is needed before a player fulfills his potential. Yakupov may never do that, but for a likely low return, I am willing to see the Rangers take a shot at him.

- MidnightMarauder

Yakupov would be a nice pickup at a discount price, but how discounted are we talking?

Surely there will be one team that is rebuilding and loaded up with like 7 picks in the first 2 rounds of the draft that will outbid us for Yakupov.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 17 @ 1:27 PM ET
Step 1: Trade Rick Nash and retain $2M dollars
Step 2: Sign Kyle "Played With Tavares Entire Career" Okposo for 7 years at $7M per year
Step 3: wait 41 games
Step 4: Begin complaining that we traded Rick Nash, his 2 year contract and retained $2M in salary too so that we can sign Kyle "career high 27 goals" Okposo for 7 years at $7M per year

really, we end up having less cap space, money locked up longer term, and all for a player who has never scored more than 27 goals playing on Tavares' wing. How does that make us better?

- rangerdanger94



This is under the assumption they acquire Okposo which I don't think they will. A lot of talk that they are hot after McGinn who won't cost nearly as much as Okposo will in the open market.

And if they do trade Nash they can retain Yandle or at least have a much better shot at doing so; with the money saved in dealing Nash(dependent on what the return is, naturally).

TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 17 @ 1:27 PM ET
Step 1: Trade Rick Nash and retain $2M dollars
Step 2: Sign Kyle "Played With Tavares Entire Career" Okposo for 7 years at $7M per year
Step 3: wait 41 games
Step 4: Begin complaining that we traded Rick Nash, his 2 year contract and retained $2M in salary too so that we can sign Kyle "career high 27 goals" Okposo for 7 years at $7M per year

really, we end up having less cap space, money locked up longer term, and all for a player who has never scored more than 27 goals playing on Tavares' wing. How does that make us better?

- rangerdanger94

who said we have to sign Okposo if we trade Nash?
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 17 @ 1:29 PM ET
Rangers are not in a good position to trade away young incumbent NHL defensemen.

Rangers actually have more depth in their organization, at the forward position, than they do on the blueline.

- MidnightMarauder

Not that I want Skjei traded by any means, but I truly beleive the left side of the defense will remain a pillar of strength without Yandle and eventually when Staal leaves.

I still have high hopes for Ryan Graves. For being 6'5 he's a good skater with a great shot.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

May 17 @ 1:29 PM ET
This is under the assumption they acquire Okposo which I don't think they will. A lot of talk that they are hot after McGinn who won't cost nearly as much as Okposo will in the open market.

And if they do trade Nash they can retain Yandle or at least have a much better shot at doing so; with the money saved in dealing Nash(dependent on what the return is, naturally).

- MidnightMarauder

You could sub in any of the high priced forward free agents this year (Lucic, Backes, Eriksson, Boedker).

McGinn would be a nice pickup. Cheaper than anyone else I listed, but he will still likely be 3.5-4 potentially per year. I feel like a lot of team will be calling him and drive his price up.
webleedblue
New York Rangers
Joined: 05.22.2013

May 17 @ 1:29 PM ET
Yandle isn't as good as Staal defensively. I'd be willing to start the season:

McD/Klein
Skjei/McI
Staal/Girardi

- mames11

much rather have
Mcd-Mci
yandle-klein
skjei-G
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 17 @ 1:29 PM ET
For McDonagh or Lundqvist, I would expect Benn or Seguin.

Nichushkin would likely require Skjei at a minimum though.

- rangerdanger94


Yeah, Tom just wants to blow this whole thing up...
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

May 17 @ 1:30 PM ET
who said we have to sign Okposo if we trade Nash?
- TPC

You just know they will spend the free cap space on Lucic, Okposo, Boedkker, Ladd, or Eriksson. They just will.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 17 @ 1:31 PM ET
Yakupov would be a nice pickup at a discount price, but how discounted are we talking?

Surely there will be one team that is rebuilding and loaded up with like 7 picks in the first 2 rounds of the draft that will outbid us for Yakupov.

- rangerdanger94



Professional relationships, between GMs, is always a huge factor in striking deals. The Rangers and Oilers are longtime trading partners and would likely be more amiable to complete a transaction than other teams around the league.

Don't think picks would get a deal done with Edmonton. It seems they are a prime candidate to try and load up on some experience in order to help the progress of their young core of McDavid, Hall, Draisatl, Nurse etc.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 17 @ 1:32 PM ET
Not that I want Skjei traded by any means, but I truly beleive the left side of the defense will remain a pillar of strength without Yandle and eventually when Staal leaves.

I still have high hopes for Ryan Graves. For being 6'5 he's a good skater with a great shot.

- tomburton99



I like Graves a lot too. It seems Clarke found a gem in the 2013 draft's fourth round with that kid.

Parting with Skjei would have to fashion a return of something similar in youth, potential and cap rate.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 17 @ 1:32 PM ET
Yeah, Tom just wants to blow this whole thing up...
- mdw7413



If Nichuskin were a ranger and trade talks surrounded him, we'd ask for one of Benn, Seguin or Klingberg. Because of the investment and the top 10 pick status the majority of us would ask for the the moon in return.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 17 @ 1:33 PM ET
Professional relationships, between GMs, is always a huge factor in striking deals. The Rangers and Oilers are longtime trading partners and would likely be more amiable to complete a transaction than other teams around the league.

Don't think picks would get a deal done with Edmonton. It seems they are a prime candidate to try and load up on some experience in order to help the progress of their young core of McDavid, Hall, Draisatl, Nurse etc.

- MidnightMarauder

Another thing is I bet the Oilers want no part of trading him anywhere else in the Western Conference in case he does figure it out. Could affect price tag as well.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 17 @ 1:34 PM ET
You could sub in any of the high priced forward free agents this year (Lucic, Backes, Eriksson, Boedker).

McGinn would be a nice pickup. Cheaper than anyone else I listed, but he will still likely be 3.5-4 potentially per year. I feel like a lot of team will be calling him and drive his price up.

- rangerdanger94



Don't think the Rangers are going the high price free agent route this summer. McGinn has been heavily mentioned in the Ranger media, and multiple times at that, as a prime target for Gorton and Co.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 17 @ 1:34 PM ET
You just know they will spend the free cap space on Lucic, Okposo, Boedkker, Ladd, or Eriksson. They just will.
- rangerdanger94

mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 17 @ 1:35 PM ET


If Nichuskin were a ranger and trade talks surrounded him, we'd ask for one of Benn, Seguin or Klingberg. Because of the investment and the top 10 pick status the majority of us would ask for the the moon in return.

- tomburton99


I think there is no way it would take that much. Plus, half the Rangers fans are as dumb as a (frank)ing box of cabbage. That doesn't bolster your case.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 17 @ 1:35 PM ET

- tomburton99

Tom what is Kreiders ext looking like 4 years or more?
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 17 @ 1:36 PM ET
I think there is no way it would take that much. Plus, half the Rangers fans are as dumb as a (frank)ing box of cabbage. That doesn't bolster your case.
- mdw7413

What did Cabbage ever do to you?
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 17 @ 1:36 PM ET
Another thing is I bet the Oilers want no part of trading him anywhere else in the Western Conference in case he does figure it out. Could affect price tag as well.
- TPC



I really like the potential of Yakupov and Buchnevich together. Not sure who the center would be but those two have scary individual ability. If they found on ice chemistry, and put it all together on a line with Hayes or something like that, it could be a future first line for NY and for years to come.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 17 @ 1:37 PM ET
What did Cabbage ever do to you?
- TPC



Gas & squirts
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 17 @ 1:37 PM ET
You just know they will spend the free cap space on Lucic, Okposo, Boedkker, Ladd, or Eriksson. They just will.
- rangerdanger94



Mine as well keep Nash if that is the case.

Fortunately, I really don't think that is the case with the club.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 17 @ 1:38 PM ET
Gas & squirts
- mdw7413

You might want to get checked out
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

May 17 @ 1:38 PM ET
I think there is no way it would take that much. Plus, half the Rangers fans are as dumb as a (frank)ing box of cabbage. That doesn't bolster your case.
- mdw7413


I'll take the over on that one, Cotton.
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